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Prometheus
04-02-2013, 03:10 PM
So I sold 2.3M for $30 on an account, and that account got banned while I was sleeping.
I didn't really care about the account, but the part that I'm mad about is that the $30 got charged back.

http://gyazo.com/873f5523a20c6f93bff7f3a8fab32616.png



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Stayon
04-02-2013, 03:13 PM
That's interesting... Do RWT bans always look like that?

Gala
04-02-2013, 03:15 PM
Can u give more details about the transaction? Did u chat?

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 03:18 PM
Can u give more details about the transaction? Did u chat?

Yup. Have all the Skype log pictures saved and sent to Paypal. We used an MM, and on the chargeback, he said that he sent it to the wrong person, but it says clearly on Skype that he sent the $30 to my Paypal email address.

dzpliu
04-02-2013, 03:20 PM
any chance that he might be an undercover?

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 03:23 PM
any chance that he might be an undercover?

Doubt that lol

Ian
04-02-2013, 03:32 PM
any chance that he might be an undercover?

This is kinda what I was thinking, because of the ban format. It wasn't a RWT ban, it was a JMod Manual ban, withe the comment as rwt, so it seems like it was all manual. So maybe a Jmod saw you trade or something :p

Justin
04-02-2013, 03:34 PM
Seems like it was a manual perm ban from a Jagex mod, How long after you sold the gold were you banned?

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 03:37 PM
Seems like it was a manual perm ban from a Jagex mod, How long after you sold the gold were you banned?

Maybe about 12 hours later

Gala
04-02-2013, 03:38 PM
metheus;1213891']Yup. Have all the Skype log pictures saved and sent to Paypal. We used an MM, and on the chargeback, he said that he sent it to the wrong person, but it says clearly on Skype that he sent the $30 to my Paypal email address.
I mean more like if you did something suspicious ingame. What did you say ingame?

Benny
04-02-2013, 03:39 PM
Dang. They hopped on you hard. Scary stuff.

NKN
04-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Did you trade random items with the gold?
You're supposed to do that. D:

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 03:42 PM
I mean more like if you did something suspicious ingame. What did you say ingame?

Well, I traded the MM 2.3M, then when I received the payment, he gave the gold to the buyer. We didn't say anything ingame, just on skype.


Did you trade random items with the gold?
You're supposed to do that. D:

I'm gonna do that next time lol. Forgot to this time

Silentcore
04-02-2013, 03:58 PM
Thats weird, Try appealing with the excuse of you saying: "I was going to trade my EOC gold for 07 Gold or vise versa..

Ian
04-02-2013, 04:01 PM
Thats weird, Try appealing with the excuse of you saying: "I was going to trade my EOC gold for 07 Gold or vise versa..

I'm not sure but I thought that they specifically said that that was against the rules.

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 04:03 PM
Thats weird, Try appealing with the excuse of you saying: "I was going to trade my EOC gold for 07 Gold or vise versa..
I appealed saying that I held a contest on youtube

Sjoe
04-02-2013, 04:16 PM
metheus;1213933']I appealed saying that I held a contest on youtube

Did u get scamemd on powerbot?

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 04:17 PM
Did u get scamemd on powerbot?

yup

Sjoe
04-02-2013, 04:23 PM
metheus;1213937']yup

I know the feel bro lol. Got scammed 150m in total now on pbot. could u pm me your pbot name?

Not dealing with paypal anymore

speedster
04-02-2013, 04:27 PM
Question : was the buyer any way chinese ? > That can get you banned.
Was your gold farmed?
Tip : Maybe the guy who bought the gold also reported you LOLOL!!! which could be the main reason you got banned :duh:
[PRO]metheus

Silentcore
04-02-2013, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure but I thought that they specifically said that that was against the rules.

It's not against the rules, its only against the rules to make clans and friend chats since it will attract alot of scammers..

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 04:32 PM
Question : was the buyer any way chinese ? > That can get you banned.
Was your gold farmed?
Tip : Maybe the guy who bought the gold also reported you LOLOL!!! which could be the main reason you got banned :duh:
[PRO]metheus

Oh my god you're right. He seemed pretty pissed when I filed a dispute against him, and just saying, he also charged back 3 more people

Justin
04-02-2013, 04:39 PM
Seen a lot of threads over on other botting sites about people getting banned on ALL accounts accessed by the IP :\ Have you checked your other accounts?

Sjoe
04-02-2013, 04:42 PM
use Playerauction next time!

Prometheus
04-02-2013, 04:43 PM
Seen a lot of threads over on other botting sites about people getting banned on ALL accounts accessed by the IP :\ Have you checked your other accounts?

My other accounts are fine right now

Itankbots
04-02-2013, 05:19 PM
Like others said, thats a J mod ban, not a rwt ban, someone knew what you were doing.

Chris Reborn
04-02-2013, 05:27 PM
Jmod ban they were onto you before. nothing you could do since it was manual. but i know the feel bro i know the feel :/

Hollow
04-02-2013, 10:38 PM
Was the guy who bought the gp banned too? Check his highscores if you remember his ingame name.

Neznam
04-02-2013, 11:25 PM
Yeah I don't see how he could have reported you for RWT and not have gotten banned himself.
Also has he been banned from PB? I don't see how he can be mad because you filed a report against him. He broke the rules by charging back meaning he was CAUGHT. Ppl who scam can't get mad. A-hole these days.

speedster
04-02-2013, 11:26 PM
Yeah I don't see how he could have reported you for RWT and not have gotten banned himself.
Also has he been banned from PB? I don't see how he can be mad because you filed a report against him. He broke the rules by charging back meaning he was CAUGHT. Ppl who scam can't get mad. A-hole these days.


Maybe he transferred the money afterwards ? That's a reasonable explanation, a lot of buyers come with mules to trade.

Neznam
04-02-2013, 11:37 PM
Maybe he transferred the money afterwards ? That's a reasonable explanation, a lot of buyers come with mules to trade.

Yeah but a lot of the time, especially in cases of goldfarming/rwt, don't jmods check for other accounts that you have? i.e ban your mules + mains.

King
04-03-2013, 12:11 AM
Yeah but a lot of the time, especially in cases of goldfarming/rwt, don't jmods check for other accounts that you have? i.e ban your mules + mains.

Usually, the J-mod could have also thought he was not a big seller, therefore no investigation..How the hell did you get a manual RWT?

Prometheus
04-03-2013, 12:16 AM
Was the guy who bought the gp banned too? Check his highscores if you remember his ingame name.

Yep, he got banned, but not our MM

King
04-03-2013, 12:17 AM
metheus;1214322']Yep, he got banned, but not our MM

Hmm...Usually the MM gets it too..

Prometheus
04-03-2013, 12:19 AM
Also, I have rwt'ed 1m gold on a different account 2 weeks ago, and I never have been banned on that account.

King
04-03-2013, 12:20 AM
metheus;1214326']Also, I have rwt'ed 1m gold on a different account 2 weeks ago, and I never have been banned on that account.

I trade 2-5m a day without any issue. The J-Mod had to have found out one way or another.

Prometheus
04-03-2013, 12:23 AM
I trade 2-5m a day without any issue. The J-Mod had to have found out one way or another.

Guess there was some undercover jmod there then

happy hippo
04-03-2013, 12:28 AM
He Would Of Had to have reported you there is no other way...unless Fagex have turned into super watchdogs

King
04-03-2013, 12:42 AM
He Would Of Had to have reported you there is no other way...unless Fagex have turned into super watchdogs

The Jmod could have been in the area, say three people standing around and checked the wealth transfer, or maybe the Jmod checked him (Flagged) and when he saw they were different IPs they banned hom, I really dont know at this point as Ive never been caught for RWT.

happy hippo
04-03-2013, 12:55 AM
Thats a Fairly Plausible idea...Fagex got bigger fish to fry, its unfair they grabbed you of all people when i see gold trades happen At Grand Exchange of 50m+ Ridicules carry on

Ivo09
04-03-2013, 04:14 AM
What if a Jmod became a trusted MM on Powerbot. It's not uncommon for people to get banned for RWTing at all so noone would suspect him. I'm probably crazy though.

Also any trade involving a middleman looks suspicious and jamflex would probably ban all people involved except for the middleman, since he never actually received or sold any gold, but simply held it in his possession for a little while.

King
04-03-2013, 04:51 AM
What if a Jmod became a trusted MM on Powerbot. It's not uncommon for people to get banned for RWTing at all so noone would suspect him. I'm probably crazy though.

Also any trade involving a middleman looks suspicious and jamflex would probably ban all people involved except for the middleman, since he never actually received or sold any gold, but simply held it in his possession for a little while.
While MM are good to have, I agree with this, MM make the trade a bit more obvious when it goes through 3 people. I had a YouTube contest ect, all other excuses don't account for the MM

Rincewind
04-03-2013, 05:15 AM
Or instead of this speculation, let's say you were just very unlucky and a JMod caught wind of an abnormal trade going on.

King
04-03-2013, 05:19 AM
Or instead of this speculation, let's say you were just very unlucky and a JMod caught wind of an abnormal trade going on.

But speculation is fun ):

Rincewind
04-03-2013, 05:22 AM
But speculation is fun ):

Then how do we know YOU aren't a undercover Jagex operative trying to lure us in and then banhammer us? Hmmmm?

Sjoe
04-03-2013, 05:45 AM
undercover Jagex ... Watching too many movies?

Soviet Union
04-03-2013, 06:42 AM
Jagex seem to be cracking down on RWT especially on 07 :( a fair few people seem to be reporting it. I'm not sure if Dueling and letting the buyer win is a safer option at the moment.

Sjoe
04-03-2013, 07:35 AM
Jagex seem to be cracking down on RWT especially on 07 :( a fair few people seem to be reporting it. I'm not sure if Dueling and letting the buyer win is a safer option at the moment.

You're posting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray :)

(sorry, that wasn't really On topic)

King
04-03-2013, 07:01 PM
Then how do we know YOU aren't a undercover Jagex operative trying to lure us in and then banhammer us? Hmmmm?
Hmmm...how do I know I'm not? I'm betraying myself!

Neznam
04-03-2013, 08:21 PM
Paranoia PARANOIA!! Hey that's my thing!

Prometheus
04-03-2013, 09:45 PM
Just got charged back $10 wtf....
Going to use PA for sure next time... **** PB market.

Fatigue
04-18-2013, 11:20 AM
Well, it could've been worse. You could've been like this (http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/984827-perm-banned-with-over-6b/) guy. He got banned shortly after bragging about it on youtube. With his RSN shown (http://www.powerbot.org/community/topic/982342-2b-sale/). LOL

Itankbots
04-18-2013, 11:33 AM
Lotta Rwt Bans lately..

l6bustank
04-19-2013, 09:32 AM
Its funny that they permed you for 2,3m. Its not such a big amount at all.