Does opengl work for you?

[bonsai]

I can't use OpenGL at all with Runescape nowadays. If I put it into opengl it crashes.

I hear of others who work for a while but suffer lag.

Let's see how many people are in this boat.

[Swag Bag]

It runs well for me on an Intel cpu with a gtx 970. I can run up to 8 clients but that is limited by my CPU (smart takes about 10% each). My friend can run about 10 on his monster computer.
On my older laptop though it starts to lag after an hour and is almost unplayable. It just seems hardware related as far as I can tell.
HOWEVER, I can't wait for direct x hooking ;)

[bucko]

works, lags badly after 45m

[Clutch]

$500 machine - runs 4 bots with minimal lag (nothing that causes issues). Have personally ran 2 different bots at the same time for 18 hours each.
Will post specs if anyones interested.

[Ross]

Works great for me.

e: can I change my vote to "Bastard"?

[Adieux]

I've got a pretty good computer
AMD 8350
GTX 970
16 GB RAM
It's always funny get 60 FPS on games like the witcher 3 and having runescape be laggy (thanks java)

Oddly enough, was playing legit on Direct x and for whatever reason would crash my game after 10 minutes of playing,
switched to openGl and fixed it.
After updating to windows 10 I can play on both just fine, have no idea whats going on with runescapes client anymore.

[KeepBotting]

I voted for "Bastard" because I only use color.

[adc]

I've got a pretty good computer
AMD 8350
GTX 970
16 GB RAM
It's always funny get 60 FPS on games like the witcher 3 and having runescape be laggy (thanks java)

Oddly enough, was playing legit on Direct x and for whatever reason would crash my game after 10 minutes of playing,
switched to openGl and fixed it.
After updating to windows 10 I can play on both just fine, have no idea whats going on with runescapes client anymore.

I have pretty much the exact same build, only with a GTX 760 (which outperforms a GTX 970 in my use cases, so glad I spent $450 on the GTX 970 that one time) instead and I start lagging with OpenGL after something like an hour.

[Adieux]

I have pretty much the exact same build, only with a GTX 760 (which outperforms a GTX 970 in my use cases, so glad I spent $450 on the GTX 970 that one time) instead and I start lagging with OpenGL after something like an hour.

What are your use cases because a 970 beats a 760 in almost every technical aspect?
Honestly, Runescape is just terribly optimized plus its shitty engine is capped at 50 FPS. So glad, they're moving to C++

[adc]

What are your use cases because a 970 beats a 760 in almost every technical aspect?
Honestly, Runescape is just terribly optimized plus its shitty engine is capped at 50 FPS. So glad, they're moving to C++

DotA 2, CSGO and League on a 1080p screen (with only CSGO being played at 1080p). The 970 refuses to go above 35% usage. It obviously has more horsepower, but it never uses it so it's irrelevant.

[Adieux]

DotA 2, CSGO and League on a 1080p screen (with only CSGO being played at 1080p). The 970 refuses to go above 35% usage. It obviously has more horsepower, but it never uses it so it's irrelevant.

I mean you've only mentioned games which aren't graphically intensive. Try playing something like the Witcher 3 with Nividia hair fx and you'll watch the GPU usage go up.
It only uses as much power as it needs, don't see why you would want it to use more power and waste more energy when it can get the same performance at a lower usage.

[adc]

I mean you've only mentioned games which aren't graphically intensive. Try playing something like the Witcher 3 with Nividia hair fx and you'll watch the GPU usage go up.
It only uses as much power as it needs, don't see why you would want it to use more power and waste more energy when it can get the same performance at a lower usage.

That's the issue. I get 100+ FPS in DotA 2 with my 760, and I barely break 50-60 consistently with a 970. If it gave me adequate performance (120+ FPS consistently) I'd be less concerned about it capping usage (though if I want my card to consistently run at 100% I think I should be able to force it to), but it doesn't.

[Adieux]

That's the issue. I get 100+ FPS in DotA 2 with my 760, and I barely break 50-60 consistently with a 970. If it gave me adequate performance (120+ FPS consistently) I'd be less concerned about it capping usage (though if I want my card to consistently run at 100% I think I should be able to force it to), but it doesn't.

You can, just change your computers power usage to performance, and change the GPU settings (inside NVIDIA control panel) to prefer max performance.

[adc]

You can, just change your computers power usage to performance, and change the GPU settings (inside NVIDIA control panel) to prefer max performance.

Trust me, I tried that. I spent at least 6 hours fiddling with it before I returned the card because I just couldn't get anything to work.

[Incurable]

I actually don't know how OGL runs for me, but I can only assume well because I have a great PC.

[frabj]

It runs fine for me on an average pc with a GTX570 and 2550k i5.

[yourule97]

$500 machine - runs 4 bots with minimal lag (nothing that causes issues). Have personally ran 2 different bots at the same time for 18 hours each.
Will post specs if anyones interested.

Yo, I'm interested. Thinking of making a budget build PC once I move to uni.

[Swag Bag]

I used to think my 10 fps on minecraft was really good and it was like christmas when I broke 15. Now I see people talking about 120fps being good...

[Calluminati]

Works borderline fine (steady 50 fps) however once multiple clients are being ran it's as if it prioritises the ones which are open first as they maintain a steady 50fps and the new ones will sit at around 10fps or so. Decent PC, running an i5-2320 and a AMD Radeon Sapphire 7790

[Lipcot]

in my previous pc i couldn't even run OpenGL, with my new one, i can but have some issues with it, like lag and random colours appearing on screen and big screw ups...

[Linked]

It always works for me and I dont get any fps drop

[Twinki]

For those who have lag issues, be sure to post your specs.

Personally OGL runs just fine for me on a 650 Ti and AMD FX 8350. It will go down to 10 fps sometimes when I re-logg, but that can usually be fixed by just re-starting SMART.


Those having lag issues, try updating your GPU drivers, I wonder if the issue is driver-related.

[Thomas]

For those who have lag issues, be sure to post your specs.

Personally OGL runs just fine for me on a 650 Ti and AMD FX 8350. It will go down to 10 fps sometimes when I re-logg, but that can usually be fixed by just re-starting SMART.


Those having lag issues, try updating your GPU drivers, I wonder if the issue is driver-related.

It could be driver related, but I doubt ATI/AMD has solving lag on a botting client on its to-do list.
Either way I lag on a MSI 7950 TF3 (AMD...)

[Ian]

Laptop: 0.5 FPS fairly quickly on OGL, fine on DirectX. ATI X1400.

[Lucidity]

Works great for me, I run about 10-15 hours without lag. Nvidia GeForce seems to be good for it

[J_R]

OGL is noticeably more lag than DX for me. And I have a NVidia GTX 970M too (running Windows though, which means DX is probably gonna be better regardless)

[The Mayor]

If we can generalize the results of this pole to the wider user base, then OpenGL either doesn't work properly or doesn't work at all for >70% of people. This may come as a surprise to some of you, but we figured this out way back 2k13. I will reiterate what I've always said: I think people should invest their time into something that works for everybody, because that will lead to more users, more feedback, more community contribution, and less segregation.

[Obscurity]

People should invest their time into what they enjoy. Despite the 70%, OpenGL makes up a good bit of the new forum content and activity.

[the bank]

OGL runs beaufitully here. Mind you, I am running it on a late 2014 MacBook Pro with the updated graphics card ($3400 system). GeForce card here as well, which people seem to think will run it better.

I have never encountered any lagg at any point during the day, and can run multiple at once. To be honest I think it is the biggest leap forward we have seen in RS cheating since Nexus first made use of reflection. Pretty sure everyone else is just bum-hurt that it doesn't work for them, considering it is not only massively powerful but also undetectable.

E:

I will say I prefer DirectX overall, due to the stability and performance. There was a short time period where OpenGL trumped DX, but that is now in the past. Also looking forward to DirectX hooking.

E2:

Note that I was talking about the graphics processing libraries themselves, NOT the plugins or libraries here. The OGL plugin is sweet.

[Kasi]

the bank; wouldn’t you be bummed if it didn’t work on a $3400 system?

[the bank]

the bank; wouldn’t you be bummed if it didn’t work on a $3400 system?

Not really. Its a tool, not a method.

Does OGL replace color? No. Does OGL replace SRL? No.

It is a tool you can use. If my system didn't support it, or if I didn't know how to use it, I would simply stick with my other tools. In this case that would be SRL.

Does that mean that it shouldn't exist? Hell no. If you have the capabilities to use it, then use it!

[Kasi]

Not really. Its a tool, not a method.

Does OGL replace color? No. Does OGL replace SRL? No.

It is a tool you can use. If my system didn't support it, or if I didn't know how to use it, I would simply stick with my other tools. In this case that would be SRL.

Does that mean that it shouldn't exist? Hell no. If you have the capabilities to use it, then use it!

Didn't get that I was hinting at the fact that you wasted 3400$ if you bought it with your own money. Don't take it seriously...just a joke.

In this case, tools and method are essentially the same thing. The OGL Hook plugin was created to work side by side or separately from color. I should know; i helped Brandon; write the OpenGL Hook.

[the bank]

Didn't get that I was hinting at the fact that you wasted 3400$ if you bought it with your own money. Don't take it seriously...just a joke.

In this case, tools and method are essentially the same thing. The OGL Hook plugin was created to work side by side or separately from color. I should know; i helped Brandon; write the OpenGL Hook.

Ahhh I get what you're saying now. Couldn't agree more, its overpriced, but its the most powerful system I've ever used. It literally takes everything I throw at it and just zips off with a smile like its nothing lol.

More importantly, it was a prerequisite for my post secondary studies, so it wasn't really a waste since it was necessary.

[Drogon]

Works well for me

[theholyone]

when you say OpenGL is undetected, how is that possible if its reading game-data? ( i'm assuming it does for such accuracy)

[Obscurity]

It intercepts data to/from your video card.

[theholyone]

It intercepts data to/from your video card.

ah... so this is more geared towards single main botting - type stuff or mass if you have an expensive graphics card

[Obscurity]

You can run multiple on basic cards - just some (mostly AMD) don't run it well.

[alar82]

Does not work with amd :(

[kiwikiwi]

I just realised that I can run more than one SMART client on my main PC that has a kickass graphics card haha. Time to buy some more ram!