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oscareragon
10-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Hey guys I wanna start botting on a larger scale now, And i hear alot of people talking about using a vpn could someone explain me why they use it? and where I can get a good low cost vpn if needed. Does it also lower your chance at being banned or hwo many bots are banned.
acow
10-10-2015, 08:56 PM
one of the main reasons to use it is so that your bots have a ip address different from your home ip
assuming that you're using a popular provider (e.g cyberghost/hidemyass/etc), then I'd say the chances of the offending account being banned would be higher whilst on a vpn (since others have most likely botted on it before / could be doing so at the same time)
KeepBotting
10-11-2015, 04:24 PM
VPNs are worthless, don't waste your time or money
anth_
10-12-2015, 10:22 AM
VPNs are worthless, don't waste your time or money

You think so? I've had decent success with not getting my home ip flagged - and if one does get a vpn ip flagged you can always change server right?

But yeah, there might be a higher chance of ban on a specific vpn ip if it's shared. If you've got a dedicated ip, it should be no problem!
KeepBotting
10-12-2015, 12:44 PM
You think so? I've had decent success with not getting my home ip flagged - and if one does get a vpn ip flagged you can always change server right?

But yeah, there might be a higher chance of ban on a specific vpn ip if it's shared. If you've got a dedicated ip, it should be no problem!
It is my belief that Jagex does not ban accounts on basis of IP address
Ian
10-12-2015, 03:03 PM
I know there was a JMod statement somewhere, I think /r/2007scape, that said they do collect IP addresses and use them but I can't remember if they said how they used them. Maybe it's only for account ownership reasons.
acow
10-12-2015, 03:56 PM
I know there was a JMod statement somewhere, I think /r/2007scape, that said they do collect IP addresses and use them but I can't remember if they said how they used them. Maybe it's only for account ownership reasons.
they definitely do check for proxies when determining account ownership
http://services.runescape.com/m=rswiki/en/Community_-_Account_Recovery_Tips#VPNs/Proxies

If they detect that you're using a VPN/proxy whilst recovering an account, it's going to be denied no matter how good your acc info if (I have first hand experience with this, same info that got accepted from my home ip was denied whilst using a vpn, the account got locked due to me using a vpn =p)
Aufi
10-12-2015, 04:12 PM
It is my belief that Jagex does not ban accounts on basis of IP address

Well, a dirty IP address will determine the severity of your ban though.
KeepBotting
10-12-2015, 08:33 PM
Well, a dirty IP address will determine the severity of your ban though.

I believe that is a misconception as well.

I believe that there is no distinction made (by Jagex) between "dirty" or "clean" IP addresses, at all.

Fundamentally, a user's IP address is an incredibly unreliable factor upon which to base any action, much less a punitive one. They can be changed in two seconds flat and do not provide an avenue by which to (reliably) identify an individual.
Aufi
10-13-2015, 09:26 AM
I believe that is a misconception as well.

I believe that there is no distinction made (by Jagex) between "dirty" or "clean" IP addresses, at all.

Fundamentally, a user's IP address is an incredibly unreliable factor upon which to base any action, much less a punitive one. They can be changed in two seconds flat and do not provide an avenue by which to (reliably) identify an individual.

I can't provide proof that this is how it works, but from my own experience it's how it is. Botted plenty of times on an IP that has never been botted on before, I always receive 2-day bans for the first few times I am caught. Then it's always permanent ban first offence after that, no exceptions. Been perm banned 10-20 times in a row on my home IP which is dirty as fuck -> moved house and bam, 2-day bans, even on accounts that are linked to my old IP!

For OSRS. No idea how it's like on RS3.
terrorbyte
10-13-2015, 08:59 PM
I can't provide proof that this is how it works, but from my own experience it's how it is. Botted plenty of times on an IP that has never been botted on before, I always receive 2-day bans for the first few times I am caught. Then it's always permanent ban first offence after that, no exceptions. Been perm banned 10-20 times in a row on my home IP which is dirty as fuck -> moved house and bam, 2-day bans, even on accounts that are linked to my old IP!

For OSRS. No idea how it's like on RS3.

That's some amazing info. Goes on to show that Jagex anti-cheat system most likely doesn't account for IPs
METAPid
10-22-2016, 07:33 PM
So what would you then recommend? A VPS or Proxy? Or just to bot all from one machine entirely. Take your losses as they come?
YoHoJo
10-22-2016, 08:24 PM
So what would you then recommend? A VPS or Proxy? Or just to bot all from one machine entirely. Take your losses as they come?

This thread was last posted on a year ago, careful about grave-digging.

If you're botting multiple accounts, it's recommended to batch them onto different IP addresses to avoid chain bans.
This can be done with proxies or VPSs. VPNs are not recommended for botting.

Here's more info on proxies:
http://rsbotspot.com/all-about-proxies/
Turpinator
10-22-2016, 09:43 PM
This thread was last posted on a year ago, careful about grave-digging.

If you're botting multiple accounts, it's recommended to batch them onto different IP addresses to avoid chain bans.
This can be done with proxies or VPSs. VPNs are not recommended for botting.

Here's more info on proxies:
http://rsbotspot.com/all-about-proxies/

careful using your status for your own personal gain.