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WT-Fakawi
02-14-2006, 04:13 PM
Rule #1.

Respect Jagex.

This community respects Jackex. We enjoy playing their game, not for the game, but for the intellectual challenge. We play somewhat different than legitimite players, but we try to act natural. :)

Rule #2.

Make sure you have more than 20 players.

Tutorial Island only takes about 5 minutes to finish. It will take you 4 hours. Try making them in batches of 6, thats only 30 minutes. Give them proper names. I have an alphabetical Army. 1. Archedroitu 2. Bastrekopon 3. Chnakdria etc.

Rule #3.

Switch players once every half hour.

Switching players once every 30-50 minutes drastically reduces the amount of Randoms you will encounter. You will hardly get any.

Rule #4.

Cherish your players.

Treat your players with respect, treat them as individuals. They are your Army, they work for you. Don't leave them unattended.


Rule #5.

Break out of every loop.

Endless loop are strictly forbidden. Build failsafes into ALL your loops. Preferably:

repeat
If not Loggedin then Break;
until (false);Why? Because we dont want our program to "hang" when we wake up, return from school or work


Rule #6.

Use the regular client and always auto unsigned.

Make sure you get a unique UID each period you auto.


Rule #7.

Try to stay online 24/7.

This is my favourite rule. Just love those 24 hour reports.

<=================Progress Report================>
Worked for 102 Hours, 26 Minutes and 57 Seconds
Attacked 15888 Goblins.
Dropped 0 Items.
Died 0 Times.
Random Event Report:
Talked to 17 random event[s].
Opened 410 door[s].
Logged in 346 Time[s].
<================================================>

Sdcit
02-15-2006, 12:53 AM
You can change your UID?

benland100
02-15-2006, 01:20 AM
You can change your UID?
In windows you can force a new one by deleting (may change depending on your computer but you can search for UID.dat :)):
C:/windows/.file_store_32/UID.dat
Or if you use the unsigned applet you can get a new one every time you open a world :)

Sdcit
02-15-2006, 04:53 AM
okay, i deleted it. Now when i search for it its gone.... is that a good thing :p

Flyboy
02-15-2006, 06:27 AM
Next time you load RS2 it will be back. I use to have a different one for each of my characters. Someday I will write a simple script for SRL that will update it as each character changes.

moparisthebest
02-15-2006, 07:26 PM
Next time you load RS2 it will be back. I use to have a different one for each of my characters. Someday I will write a simple script for SRL that will update it as each character changes.

technically, the unsigned client throws a few exceptions and ends up sending a "0" to jagex when you use it, so we could probably get by with making a uid.dat with simply a "0" in it and be undetected (as jagex would just see it as using the unsigned client)

this method is untested as of yet, but somthing that we should test, perhaps auto safely on a few accounts, and very blatently on another one (use the 0 uid for all) and when the blatently autoed one gets banned we would see if the others got banned too? ;) :D

Flyboy
02-15-2006, 07:34 PM
Not a bad idea, it would be best to do it through the same proxi so all had the same IP but not your main home one.

moparisthebest
02-15-2006, 11:37 PM
Not a bad idea, it would be best to do it through the same proxi so all had the same IP but not your main home one.

you could, but in the apartment I just moved to I have 4 unsecured wireless connections all with highspeed cable I can connect to at any time, so it doesnt matter for me ;) :D

Bam Bam
03-13-2006, 07:26 PM
Hey Mopar are they your colleges or are they from fellow students

(Wondering about shared files :D)

Edit:

I tried setting it to zero but every time i reloaded after changing it, it changed again....maybe i just did something wrong but it didn't stay as zero...im going to play around a bit see if i can figure out more about the uid file

timmyboy
03-13-2006, 10:48 PM
Next time you load RS2 it will be back. I use to have a different one for each of my characters. Someday I will write a simple script for SRL that will update it as each character changes.Has that someday came? :p Because that would be a great script. I would probably be willing to pay for it(probably, that dosn't mean for sure:p )

c0de
04-06-2006, 09:20 AM
...
I tried setting it to zero but every time i reloaded after changing it, it changed again....maybe i just did something wrong but it didn't stay as zero...im going to play around a bit see if i can figure out more about the uid file

try setting read only attribute :/ just an idea..

JiveTonto@Gmail.com
04-06-2006, 10:23 AM
autoing rules huh hmmm so there rules for breaking the rules.....interresting

torrent
05-08-2006, 01:13 AM
im trying to find the .dat file cant find it.. im not good with computers :(

t0tum
05-25-2006, 11:32 AM
Does amount of randoms u get on all players depends on UID.dat? If u using like 10 players with same UID you will be getting same amount of randoms as using 1 player. Even if u switch players every 30min u still be getting randoms.

lo0ol
05-27-2006, 08:23 AM
umm yah nice rules, but i dont like 24/7 rule lol :D
I will start autoing soon :)

Scotland
10-01-2007, 10:01 PM
nice rules, i allways thought you should take some time to change your look

RAM
10-01-2007, 10:15 PM
05-27-2006, 04:23 Am 2006

linkmaster03
10-02-2007, 09:30 PM
Thanks, I am getting started with SRL and SCAR, I will make sure I auto on unsigned. :)

Kik
10-02-2007, 09:45 PM
Well, it is sort of a good topic to bump...

linkmaster03
10-02-2007, 10:20 PM
Yeah.. but I take no blame for the bumpage. :D

RAM
10-02-2007, 10:41 PM
I think I will Sticky it and move it to.....Strategical info (http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/strategical-info-f61.html)

Dark_Sniper
10-03-2007, 12:14 PM
lol RAM i was looking for this.

I couldn't find it no matter what I did.


woot...and i noticed i do not follow half these rules XD.

julian0
10-24-2007, 11:01 AM
What do u mean with army?

Eicca
10-24-2007, 07:27 PM
What do u mean with army?

Good army for example is ~8 guys, everyone above level 30 and with original names. You can run scripts easily during night, because the script wont break.

hubabuba
11-01-2007, 04:08 PM
hey i have a question.. i want to enter to a part of the forum.. and it's written that i can't.. :S wtf? lol

Metagen
11-01-2007, 04:12 PM
You cant. You need to be active on the forums and have be on for about a week

Sp0rky
11-02-2007, 02:39 AM
Rule #1.

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Rule #6.

Use the regular client and always auto unsigned.

Make sure you get a unique UID each period you auto.


Not sure I agree. Auto on signed constantly and delete my uid after every session. Never got 1 ban yet.

n3ss3s
11-02-2007, 12:24 PM
RAM, no strategical info, even it is, it wont be read there.

When somebody comes GP hungry here, he doesnt go to strategical info. If lucky, he maybe reads the FAQ, maybe there?

EDIT: Oh, this is rules and regulations, even better.

WT-Fakawi
11-02-2007, 12:35 PM
Yes the Golden Rules definately need updating.

t3hl33tn00b
11-02-2007, 01:33 PM
i dont see the point of the unsigned thing, simply make the script delete your UID each time you switch chars if you really want, no?

deleteUID; thats the command isnt it?

HellBoyz
11-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Fawky when you will gonna update it?

teh_lulz
11-02-2007, 09:52 PM
If only the people with names like "acinkedkyg823" would read this, maybe they could auto more efficiently. Thanks for the UID tip, didn't know about that :-D

kingy101
11-03-2007, 09:22 PM
yea that uid is nice idea thxs :P

Cerium
11-04-2007, 10:47 PM
Going to start to use unsigned:)

guirong13
11-05-2007, 07:27 PM
loving the last rule "stay online 24\7" lol :P

Hiya
11-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Basically, for those who don't know this is everything you want to know about uid.dat and all the files jagex store on your pc ;)

* = wildcard (aka any character)


uid.dat - (UserID) this is where jagex store all the data about yourself for communication between different client windows and check for patterns in your user usage to try to take down your army, as well as recording your ip address and login data (excluding passwords).

Jagex uses this file mainly to check your not "self trading" (where you trade using 2 clients open at once) as each client checks that some on isn't already logged from your network ip. However, this can be cicumvented by clikc the login on each window VERY fast on each client window.

Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\jagex_cahche_32\

random.dat - this is an essential file that details your previous randoms with your current user. It cannot be deleted or rewritten as the client maintains full access rights to the file.

Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\jagex_cache_32\

main_file_cache*.dat* - stores the actual data downloaded from the signed applet - interfaces, music, images ect.

Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\jagex_cache_32\
Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\file_store_32\

main_file_cach*.idx255 - index for the main_file_cache*.dat*.

Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\jagex_cache_32\
Found in [Lowest-Drive-Letter]\WINDOWS\file_store_32\

cache--*******.dat - another cache file, specifically for updates.


THIS IS THE INTERESTING BIT: As you can see, the evil file here is uid.dat. Here you are faced with a dilemma - should you use the unsigned and be safe or use the signed and benefit from quick loading. NOW YOU CAN HAVE BOTH.

You have probably heard of ScarScape. It is a client which stops north changes and colour changes (all colours are perfect hexs) and does many other things including being a signed applet without making the uid.dat. It is the solution to all your problems. You used to have to pay for it but now it is FREE (he didn't sell any - $50 is too much).

Please download SS from this link (so it is most up to date): http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=2291883

below is an atachment of the october version in case the link gets broken:

mickaliscious
11-06-2007, 09:35 PM
Next time you load RS2 it will be back. I use to have a different one for each of my characters. Someday I will write a simple script for SRL that will update it as each character changes.

I tried this but while the (signed, haven't tried unsigned) runescape game is running it is accessing the files so you cannot access them to delete them with scar. Even if you go back to the main page you still have a file access error. The only way around this is to close the client and open it again... but that would just get annoying and I'm not sure how it would work out... So I just delete the UID.dat file before and after getting on my main. I also use a
program called Tor to reroute my IP adress through several different servers. Even though some java could access your IP anyway, tor seems to work for runescape because while logging on I have never seen my real IP.


P.S. Anyone know if the ScarScape bit from the guy above me is true... Just sounds odd.

kossa
11-07-2007, 08:39 AM
lol and do we realli hav to abide by these rules or can we just .... it??

Nikize
11-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Didnt know about using unsigned, thanks for the information, very usefull!

Doreauxgard
11-11-2007, 04:15 AM
so deleteUID; is the command?

gimillii1592
11-11-2007, 05:54 AM
how u change ur UID again and make it so it dosent came back for rs?

kensaurus
11-12-2007, 06:51 AM
how to use the scarscape i dun understand-.-

Claymore
11-12-2007, 04:20 PM
106 hours! I only last an hour because randoms arent being solved...
BUT! one day...

thebob142
11-12-2007, 07:51 PM
is it possible to delete uid.dat file completley as i think i might of i search in jagex cache 32
like everday and not there . =/ even though some times i use signed on my main.

spot
11-12-2007, 09:54 PM
realy nice killing dude

napper
11-14-2007, 06:14 AM
what do u mean buy always auto on unsigned client or w.e??(sorry im a noob) but wat is an unsigned client?

RusinaRange
11-14-2007, 02:04 PM
I found 6 files by searcing in files...

C:\.jagex_cache_32
C:\.jagex_cache_32
C:\.mpr_file_store_32
C:\.mpr_file_store_32\vanhat

and D a long thing but thats my black scape so i know what that is...

so which one(s) will i delete?

Deadscab
11-14-2007, 05:36 PM
I made 20 chars and it took way longer than 4 hours... i'm just slow...

ashmaker0
11-16-2007, 09:14 PM
Thanks for this! I need to set up a macroing army now. The only thing I can't do is stay online 24/7 (dial-up -.-)

mnagi85
11-17-2007, 11:14 AM
On Windows Vista, the UID.dat file is in the C:\Windows\.jagex_cache_32 directory.

Unclebob
11-18-2007, 12:56 PM
thanks I didn't know most of that. I used an auto attacker and left him logged in for hours and he kept getting randoms and being killed.

dr.quantumphysics
11-20-2007, 09:17 PM
do i need to worry about the uid thing if i use the unsigned client?

stnrscott2
11-21-2007, 12:56 AM
That seems like a pretty good list to abide by.

Never really thought of the more than one character thing though.

I spike I
11-22-2007, 12:43 AM
oo very nice tips.

imported_full_tilt
11-22-2007, 01:58 AM
Baha, love the rules minus the respect jagex one. They make it so hard to do so when they fudge up the game with stupid updates (duel arena update)

pshynosis
11-22-2007, 09:11 AM
Rules read :)

kiko_da_squril
11-23-2007, 01:51 PM
well i read through this entire thing here, i dont reall yundertsand what the uid is and what to do with it someone enlighten me ?

das terminator
11-24-2007, 08:36 PM
well i read through this entire thing here, i dont reall yundertsand what the uid is and what to do with it someone enlighten me ?

The UID.dat is a file that contains a random number, when a computer connects to runescape and it hasn't got a UID, it gets one with a random number. They use it to track down your main. If your auto accounts get caught on say IP: 0.0.0.12 and UID 435 and you logged on on your main at the same IP and UID, thay will ban your main too. This can be avoided by always deleting it. Be sure to use the windows seeking program to find it, as the location may change.

spineless78
11-24-2007, 11:04 PM
Love the rules, but isnt it missing the part about using a lil style and not using the defult character image, theres nothing worse than seeing 10 bots that all look the same:sasmokin:

Here
11-25-2007, 03:56 AM
Old thread, but why are these rules? Is it to attract attention to the thread? But it's more like advice, no?

dark1463
11-26-2007, 02:07 AM
Rule #1.

Respect Jagex.

This community respects ~Jackex.~ We enjoy playing their game, not for the game, but for the intellectual challenge. We play somewhat different than legitimite players, but we try to act natural. :)


<================================================>[/FONT]

may want to fix that good guide tho

Sonyedorly
11-26-2007, 06:21 PM
sweet guide, not sure about the respect tho :P

and I never knew about the uid, I will start deleting that every time!!!

or I will just run my bots in a vpc and solve that issue and still use my comp!!

Bam Bam
11-27-2007, 09:59 PM
This community does respect Jagex.
We would be nothing without them as they are the ones who created a wonderful game for us to use for the intellectual challenge.
Which as you become a more senior member realize is pretty much the only fun in cheating.
(Except maybe watching the mouse and keyboard work to a script of your own creation)
UID is not an issue if you use the unsigned client.

Sonyedorly
11-27-2007, 10:08 PM
lol, I was trying to use sarcasm :P

jagex can be stupid at times but it is a great game, and I have realized the fun in the intellectual challenge, same as when I build my own computer games or programs!

Bam Bam
11-27-2007, 11:12 PM
lol, I was trying to use sarcasm :P

jagex can be stupid at times but it is a great game, and I have realized the fun in the intellectual challenge, same as when I build my own computer games or programs!

Good.
As long as you realize SCAR is far more fun and interesting as an intellectual challenge then you are on the right track along with anyone else who realizes this little yet important fact.

Sonyedorly
11-28-2007, 05:50 PM
yeah, whole reason I got into macros, get around anything they throw at us and learn. much fun when you almost get banned but have to talk your way out and stuff

naruto430
12-01-2007, 01:47 PM
That really was funny, the GOLDEN RULES... i guess i got to note them =)

darthyoda3
12-01-2007, 10:57 PM
Hey, thanks for this, im new to ummm... armys.... lol, and i only used 1 character thingking well if it gets banned ill make another. I never thought if randoms. But seriously thanks for this its making me macro alot more insted of loging out after not that long of playing

the common m
12-02-2007, 12:21 AM
theses are good guidelines/rules and TG to jagex

Digbarry905
12-02-2007, 06:06 AM
Thanks for making these rules available. I was unaware of the UID.

eric4721
12-02-2007, 06:21 AM
Looks like I need to make 17 more characters. xD

Ratling
12-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Wasn't clever enough to use the unsigned one. :o
Well, now I know

Digbarry905
12-06-2007, 06:12 AM
Does anyone know how long Jagex keeps track of the UIDs a character has used to log on? Thanks in advance.

fuzzyhc
12-06-2007, 01:30 PM
all seem to be very fair rules,

lol who would of thunk it, rules for autoing lul :p

dddddd
12-07-2007, 07:08 PM
these are the best rules well in the history of rules

buttface
12-09-2007, 11:44 PM
i agree. lol.

JM1
12-10-2007, 10:56 PM
Nice rules, like the last one lol.

wazzumatt21
12-13-2007, 04:59 AM
nice rules they really sum things up.

vElocity7
12-13-2007, 10:25 PM
lolzors

NiCbaZ
12-14-2007, 08:27 PM
^^^ dont spam you wont get anywhere here spamming. make constructive posts.

Putnam
12-16-2007, 03:48 AM
lol i like your last rule and the progress report. nice

Ixploit
12-16-2007, 05:07 AM
I respect these rules since they are logical and morally correct.


^^^ dont spam you wont get anywhere here spamming. make constructive posts.

Hypocrite.

yukarg9292
12-17-2007, 01:50 AM
Great set of rules, making my army as I type this!

ooples
12-18-2007, 05:19 AM
i never thaugt of using 40 bots , i guss thats what im guna do , as i what my week , the poas wont be a problem 4 me thow , im woking on a auto bone burryer, i wana se how long it takes 2 git a levle 3 2 85

Benz
12-22-2007, 01:50 AM
These made me laugh :D. I do respect Jagex, without Jagex, there would be no game to cheat on.

therion1
12-22-2007, 11:59 AM
Thanks for helping me with these rules.Im not sure what to do.

Datakovis
12-23-2007, 07:20 PM
lolzors

Go somewhere else to spam :(

Jackrawl
12-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Go somewhere else to spam :(

If you're wondering, Datakovis got banned for spamming. It made me lol.

connor da og
12-25-2007, 11:27 PM
just rember, rules are made to be broken XD

The Toilet Paper
12-26-2007, 08:11 AM
Not these one.

8. Do not be a leecher.

- If you're a leecher, then we will ip ban you. Forever.

EvilMikey
12-26-2007, 10:19 PM
lol, if my moms not staying home though, im glad to turn on 24/7 rule, cause my mom wont give a crap if shes not there to see it :D

Xblainex
12-28-2007, 12:35 AM
Other than multiple characters now that rs is changing I think they are good rules haha

footballjds
12-28-2007, 03:30 AM
Other than multiple characters now that rs is changing I think they are good rules haha

tis true... Jackex sure knows how to sqrew stuf up......:duh:

kevin0095
12-29-2007, 11:05 PM
I will follow all of the rules stated above

Phlame1
12-30-2007, 05:26 AM
I can't every stay online for 24 hours because the anti-randoms fail occasionay, esp. the ents.

phunkster
12-31-2007, 02:02 PM
i have read and i have understood

daw_guy
01-05-2008, 09:59 PM
What do you mean by rule #4?

Do not leave them unattended? Does that mean watch as you auto?

boots9491
01-07-2008, 12:19 AM
this might be a dumb question but the unsigned client is the one at the bottom that says unsigned java or whatever right ?

fatboyblue
01-07-2008, 01:03 AM
when you use the unsigned applet or whatever does that just not use an uid?
and also does it have to be 20 chars because on all of the scripts ive seen (and used) it has about 6 slots.
ooples has terrible spelign :D

atrose13
01-09-2008, 02:13 AM
These sound somewhat sarcastic but worthful rules xD

Echo Tech Inc.
01-11-2008, 08:30 PM
thank you so much for telling me that!

radragon16
01-13-2008, 09:29 AM
Thanks for the advice WT. And what script did you use for that proggy? :O

Afrodude
01-13-2008, 07:44 PM
i like the rules :)

but that 24/7 rule is like....:eek:

edwardred7
01-17-2008, 01:05 AM
thanks for clearing up the rules with me, now i know how to treat the other members and the forum

Autiep03
01-19-2008, 07:51 PM
20 Players? Why wont 10-15 do?

edwardred7
01-20-2008, 10:29 AM
why must i sued unsigned for? i just dont understand why. may some one enlighten me

also is IE ir firefox better to use

Willinator39
01-21-2008, 12:26 AM
I didnt know about the UID and the Unsigned thing. Thanks for posting this. :P

Star
01-23-2008, 12:31 PM
Nice rules. I like number 7 but I wish I could get my scrips to work lol, I leave it over night and im tele'd by old fart and im just sittin there and always get banned, I wish my chars could kill just 1K goblins... 15K thats extreme and a dream to me:o

BigJohn8742
01-23-2008, 01:47 PM
ive read through this whole forum and cannot find how anyone removes their UID plz someone tell me how

ironup
01-23-2008, 06:26 PM
Hmm good rules good runners and i say good job!
:)

Runeman
01-23-2008, 07:01 PM
In windows you can force a new one by deleting (may change depending on your computer but you can search for UID.dat :)):
C:/windows/.file_store_32/UID.dat
Or if you use the unsigned applet you can get a new one every time you open a world :)


I searched for it, but I didn't find it, is it hidden, or do I only get the UID.dat file whenim using the unsigned applet?

omgwtfbbqsauce
01-24-2008, 03:25 AM
hah nice job

stnrscott2
01-24-2008, 04:52 AM
why must i sued unsigned for? i just dont understand why. may some one enlighten me

also is IE ir firefox better to use

Firefox. It's faster, more efficient, has a better customizable look, and is just overall better.

Get fasterfox with it too, it speeds it up by a lot.

7general7
01-25-2008, 12:53 PM
dindt know all these rules !
But now i know them and i think it is very helpfull

coo too
01-25-2008, 05:27 PM
great rules but how do you use an unsigned applet??? :confused:

coo too
01-25-2008, 06:31 PM
and also whenever i change or dell my uid it makes its self back again

Brain
01-30-2008, 09:34 PM
autoing rules huh hmmm so there rules for breaking the rules.....interresting

rofl, I love to break rules, and I find that the more rules you have of your own for breaking rules, to more successful the rules to be broken are broken, but never break the rule breaking rules...im guessing the universe would explode :P

EDIT:

Also, I am not sure how to use the Unsigned thingy, does that scarscape work? is that the unsigned? sorry about my noobyness with this, but I guess everyone is a noob at some point

rs2cheeter
02-01-2008, 08:53 AM
so usuing an unsigned applet hides your tracks in a way and to be less detectable?

Not a L33cher
02-01-2008, 03:02 PM
Ha, sadly I broke the rules. I autoed for 7 hours on 1 account for a week. Hmm, whats a UID? Sorry I'm a major noob.

snowboarder19
02-08-2008, 12:46 AM
i agree with the rules:) it all makes sence and are easy to try and follow... lol i like the 24/7 one:P

FEAR
02-09-2008, 09:33 AM
Let me try and answer all your questions one by one:)

1. Forget UID.dat...the file is called Random.dat. It is found in
C:\WINDOWS\.jagex_cache_32 Just delete that after every autoing session;)

2. Unsigned means there will not be any file downloaded to your computer, that means there wont be any random.dat to delete and Jagex can't spy on you:D

3. Unsigned client can be found in the detail select screen (Scroll down and find Signed Applet Using Deafult Java (Recommended)). Click the drop down menu and click Unsigned Applet Using Default Java. And you are done;)

4. ScarScape is not updated so its not safe to auto on it. I would rather recommend you use SCSS (Shite Compared to ScarScape):p It is found in

C:\Program Files\SCAR 3.14\includes\SRL\SCSS

5.You don't need firefox, just use the Normal Runescape client:duh:

6. That report is with WT-Fakawi's Goblin fighter 'Gobbiez'. It can be found in the free for all scripts section.

7. Before Autoing go and read 'How to auto ' in the tutorial island

8. 10-15 players are fine but remember, the more players you use, the less chance of getting banned;)


Thanks for taking you time to read all this:) Happy Autoing:D Hope it solved all your problems.

Edit: And welcome to SRL:D

Edit Edit:Yay my 100th post:D

kingoscorm
02-11-2008, 10:11 PM
thanks for the tip on unsigned

silentkillerjoe
02-13-2008, 08:59 PM
thanxors :) ill try usin unsigned too

tbeck3r
02-19-2008, 01:05 AM
does anyone have any clue how to get a perm banned unbanned

►help◄
02-24-2008, 10:45 PM
seems like easy rules i will follow all these rules im new to autoing and will start learning how to auto very shortly

RAM
02-25-2008, 12:27 AM
seems like easy rules i will follow all these rules im new to autoing and will start learning how to auto very shortly


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silentkillerjoe
02-25-2008, 01:21 AM
i auto on my main.. got 10 day temp thats over now though..

HellBoyz
02-28-2008, 12:08 AM
Well probably they want to level there main which instead of running 1 payer for 24/7 it's still be best to join the force for auto... I guest

holt175
02-28-2008, 01:24 AM
i will follow these rules

SiLEnT KiLLz
02-28-2008, 02:28 AM
thanks for posting this now i know all of em :) lol i only knew a few :S

Adolis
03-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Can you explain to me the whole UID concept. I'm a bit new to this scripting world and much of this makes sense. Also, how does someone do the basics of autoing 20 characters or more?

spykids007
03-02-2008, 12:04 AM
i pormise never to break the rulez and ill try to stay on 24/7

Laur€ns
03-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Why 20 accounts, is 8 good too? And why 24/7? I thinks that makes you a suspect. Cause who (expect Fawaki and Zezima) is 24/7 online?

KoKouKo
03-11-2008, 04:35 AM
fakawi just likes to see 24 hours proggies if you have an account on for 6 hours one on for anyother 6 and then another one on for 6 AND one more on for 6 hours then then i dont think they will catch you

the thing about 20 accounts is you can leave it on for maybe two weeks with a script that doesnt get randoms

[offtopic] nobody has ever beaten 10 days though


edit
the new updates sort of ruined the army rule cuz if theres no point in have a lvl 3 pick flax when you want to buy a dfs with the money on your main

bugger0001
03-22-2008, 07:42 PM
How come the new update ruins the army rule? I thought the army rule was for not getting randoms(read: banned)...

KoKouKo
03-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Because there's no point in having your army of 12 mine coal if you want to buy a DFS on your main, it doesn't ruin the rule, but.... you get what I mean....

bugger0001
03-23-2008, 11:36 AM
Ok, but still I kind of have different thoughts about this as also before it would've been suspicious if there's like 20 acc who drop millions of GP's and then suddenly there's this one main which gets the same ammount money as dropped all of a sudden from nowhere...

Lacky
03-30-2008, 10:01 AM
One question, the first rule, you say you respect Jagex, yet in your explanation of that, you blatantly call them a different name. Don't know if it's just me, but that really seems like that isn't respect.

:p

Just kidding, good job!

KoKouKo
03-30-2008, 04:13 PM
One question, the first rule, you say you respect Jagex, yet in your explanation of that, you blatantly call them a different name. Don't know if it's just me, but that really seems like that isn't respect.
its a copyright thing its what stops srl from being sued and shut down

Hypnose
03-30-2008, 08:56 PM
nice rules mate :)

Lacky
03-31-2008, 06:49 AM
its a copyright thing its what stops srl from being sued and shut down

It's illegal now not to call their company by their real name? :o

I said I was just kidding. :p

abizon
03-31-2008, 08:08 AM
lol nice rules

bugger0001
04-01-2008, 05:46 PM
I wonder, how about running multiple scripts at once?
I mean like 10 accs logged in and playing at once from my one and only computer...
Or can Jaggasses(lol, u know what I mean) detect it?

KoKouKo
04-02-2008, 05:28 AM
You can run multiple scripts at once with the addition of SMART or VMs, Jagex can probably detect these things, BUT you can say my ISP gave me a static IP so all the computers in my house have the same IP address.

vinny13
04-03-2008, 09:49 PM
I really think the best thing to do is to add mods to your friends list and make friends with them. The friendlier you are, the less they suspect ;)

There was this one mod, me and him used to go mining together... I was on my lv3(no, not a default, TY) automining away with my Rune pick and he never said anything. I just talked to him as I was doin the stuff... Great guy I gotta say ;D

KoKouKo
04-03-2008, 11:50 PM
Isn't hard to add mods, cause they already got a bunch of people wanting to add them and such.

DanteMustDie
04-04-2008, 05:40 PM
whats an 'auto signed', 'auto unsigned', UID...please, im new to the macroing stuff and i dont wanna get banned, my char is level 80 combat and is got 1000 total points, thank you for help

KoKouKo
04-05-2008, 02:53 AM
If you auto signed Jagex will put a file into your computer which can be used for things related to banning such as tracking which accounts were accessed using that computer.

DanteMustDie
04-05-2008, 08:45 PM
If you auto signed Jagex will put a file into your computer which can be used for things related to banning such as tracking which accounts were accessed using that computer.

ah cool, theres a post on page 3 that made everything clear...i got the unsigned stuff on, and i know how to delete the .random archive also...tnx for the help guys

supergeof
04-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Awesome autoing rules. I'll try to respect them ;)
Keep up the good work.

cobine
04-07-2008, 04:33 PM
can jagex detect botting?

KoKouKo
04-08-2008, 01:19 AM
They can detect certain scripts, and they also detect how many hours you play per day and other things that Jagex doesn't disclose. Wrong Section.

marclare
04-09-2008, 12:57 AM
i just down loaded scar.. now how do i use it with runescape

KoKouKo
04-13-2008, 12:22 AM
Here's a great tip, read tutorials.

Lacky
04-15-2008, 06:10 AM
That is THE best tip in the world.

sunny
04-19-2008, 05:13 AM
In windows you can force a new one by deleting (may change depending on your computer but you can search for UID.dat :)):
C:/windows/.file_store_32/UID.dat
Or if you use the unsigned applet you can get a new one every time you open a world :)

i have no idea what that is but i dont want to break any rules by not doing it so can someone tell me plz

poointhewind
04-20-2008, 01:59 PM
mmm rules for cheating then runescape rules telling us not to cheat im cunfused already.

Sneakdella
04-23-2008, 05:01 PM
For Golden Rule1 how can we be respecting Jagex when we are breaking there rules?

Gone Fishing
04-24-2008, 12:26 AM
Ha ha I love rule 7.
Thanks for this, I'll keep these in mind :P.

Zyt3x
04-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Ok ok shall we close this thread?

Gorgankle
04-30-2008, 08:57 AM
The rules.....Good to know them =p

iAmAlpine
04-30-2008, 04:17 PM
i shall follow these :)

footballstud1410
05-02-2008, 03:57 AM
ok, i'm sorry....i also am new at this...what's the best way to go unsigned?

vicarius
05-02-2008, 08:31 PM
good thing you told me these rules =P

Lacky
05-03-2008, 12:07 AM
Rule #1.

Respect Jagex.

This community respects Jackex. We enjoy playing their game, not for the game, but for the intellectual challenge. We play somewhat different than legitimite players, but we try to act natural. :)

Rule #2.

Make sure you have more than 20 players.

Tutorial Island only takes about 5 minutes to finish. It will take you 4 hours. Try making them in batches of 6, thats only 30 minutes. Give them proper names. I have an alphabetical Army. 1. Archedroitu 2. Bastrekopon 3. Chnakdria etc.

Rule #3.

Switch players once every half hour.

Switching players once every 30-50 minutes drastically reduces the amount of Randoms you will encounter. You will hardly get any.

Rule #4.

Cherish your players.

Treat your players with respect, treat them as individuals. They are your Army, they work for you. Don't leave them unattended.


Rule #5.

Break out of every loop.

Endless loop are strictly forbidden. Build failsafes into ALL your loops. Preferably:

repeat
If not Loggedin then Break;
until (false);Why? Because we dont want our program to "hang" when we wake up, return from school or work


Rule #6.

Use the regular client and always auto unsigned.

Make sure you get a unique UID each period you auto.


Rule #7.

Try to stay online 24/7.

This is my favourite rule. Just love those 24 hour reports.

<=================Progress Report================>
Worked for 102 Hours, 26 Minutes and 57 Seconds
Attacked 15888 Goblins.
Dropped 0 Items.
Died 0 Times.
Random Event Report:
Talked to 17 random event[s].
Opened 410 door[s].
Logged in 346 Time[s].
<================================================>

Maybe there should be a Rule 8? Not blabbing to Jagex or a Game Mod about SCAR, or people you know using SCAR who are online or something?

Griff
05-03-2008, 04:29 PM
ok thanks man, ill try n get more accs for autoing, right now i only have 4 :D

smurf2471
05-05-2008, 12:11 PM
I will follow all of these except rule 2 :) Im autoing on my main :)

fearmi
05-09-2008, 10:49 PM
Thx for posting the rules and i agree there should be an 8th one.

opensourcev2
05-10-2008, 03:35 AM
Wow... twenty accounts....?

PS why is benland a guest?

Neerthy101
05-13-2008, 10:06 PM
i like the last rule

Laur€ns
05-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Lol, I have only 1 account. In 4 hours I can use JuKKas miner pretty good. But about the 24/7; at 0.00 SCAR gives an exception with access violation.. Buy my PC sucks :-)

warrior993
05-17-2008, 03:38 PM
lol...I like how your first rule is "respect Jagex", and then you spell it wrong lol. (Jackex?)

megaflare203
06-28-2008, 11:27 AM
Ok so i will just have to stick to these rules =P

Tenno
06-30-2008, 07:30 AM
wow i liked those

Laur€ns
06-30-2008, 10:39 AM
wow i liked those

Don't spam for Junior membership. Test free for all scripts and post reports, your counts goes up too if you do dat :)

Lacky
07-01-2008, 02:35 AM
The rules.....Good to know them =p


i shall follow these :)


good thing you told me these rules =P


ok thanks man, ill try n get more accs for autoing, right now i only have 4 :D


I will follow all of these except rule 2 :) Im autoing on my main :)


Thx for posting the rules and i agree there should be an 8th one.


Wow... twenty accounts....?

PS why is benland a guest?


i like the last rule


Lol, I have only 1 account. In 4 hours I can use JuKKas miner pretty good. But about the 24/7; at 0.00 SCAR gives an exception with access violation.. Buy my PC sucks :-)


lol...I like how your first rule is "respect Jagex", and then you spell it wrong lol. (Jackex?)


Ok so i will just have to stick to these rules =P


wow i liked those

These are just the posts on the last page...

Guys, seriously, stop spamming to get your post count up. If you want to be an active, helpful, community member, then post tutorials, and other HELPFUL information and stop spamming and saying "good to know the rules", and "I will follow these". We know you will, you should, it's what will stop the bans from happening. This is getting really ridiculous. Fine, it's good that you know the rules, but don't post about how you read the rules.

This thread in my opinion should be locked.

phillipxxx
07-02-2008, 12:51 PM
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Cheers,
Hobbit.


nice rules =)

yay I love this script

Hey, I just fish shark
The price of that went up at least =)

Nice tut =)
helped a lot

freaking mr mordaut
screw him

well it's an introduction I guess
my name is phillip btw if you didn't catch that from my name...
want to know me add my myspace
add me =) (http://myspace.com/straight_edge_xxx)
I accept everyone I guess I have to admit I'm somewhat of a "myspace whore"... lol

omg
my highest was only around 400 haha

nice =)
rsbot ftw...

awesome =)

interesting...

pwnedlol
07-06-2008, 09:17 PM
So making 20 players is a good idea then?

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07-07-2008, 03:43 AM
Dear User,
Your post count has been reset on account of your mass of spam posts. Please take the time to read this thread before posting again.
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Hello fellow SRLERS (i think) well anyway theese are some of the best rules EEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR (accept the first it is sort of errr well not totally true after all they did take away pking but they also made the game)

I have one to add also


GOLDEN RULE #8: DO NOT SPEND 24 hours ON THIS GAME IT LIKE CRACK!!

LOLZ you should have seen the thing that wuz an ad on my page it wuz for a tazer and MACE!!!! X D
anyway This is a random thread

Yay!

LOOKING RIGHT NOW!!! o and ppl this guy can output the scripts I have seen some of his!

This guy must be one rich lil b*** cuz too spend money on a lawyer to sue jagex for probly 20$ WTF!! OMFG!!!@!!@@! this is completely DUMB I would like to meet this kid and put him in an open field and GET my fully loaded 12 guage and tell him to dance XD :spot: :spot: :spot:

SUCK THIS! :f:

LOL I am going to sound like such a noob but this rly helped me alot LOLZ

I wuz soooo bored of the long hours of click* (CLICK*) click* click* !CASH! click * click click click and so on so i looked into hacks and cheats and came upon autoers that is my story...

kind of pointless don't u think?

:BUMP: this is important

WOW this is now on my favorites!

Thanks for making this thread... i wuz literally bout too:stirthepot:

Acroya
07-11-2008, 01:46 PM
How detectable is scarscape?
And thanks for the info, Hiya!

Rich
07-29-2008, 07:20 PM
nice rules =)

Nice spam. NOT!


So making 20 players is a good idea then?

It's spam, with a bit of sense. To answer your question, yes. Why? Because then you don't auto on one account for ages; the time is more spread out; less bannage.

@Hobbit - Can I use admin's warning, because I know how to do it?

Marcus99
08-02-2008, 04:25 PM
Those are a good bunch of rules, they might be from an old post but should still be generally good. I learned a couple of things from them and the rest of the thread.
Thanks people.

livewrong811
08-03-2008, 01:27 PM
Good rules, except for the 24/7 one, lol. Other people use my computer, so it's impossible.

deadman2
08-03-2008, 10:41 PM
Those are some interesting rules. will have to keep them in mind.

Gabio
08-08-2008, 12:22 AM
I wish I could auto 24/7, once I become a Junior Member I'll be sure
to post in the thread of every script I use, I know what it feels like
to release something and get hundreds of downloads and only 7
or so replys.

dark pali82
08-08-2008, 01:28 AM
im gonna try these i might have better luck and not get banned or killed

fridaynitelights
09-21-2008, 04:02 PM
what exactly is a uid?

atlanta788
10-12-2008, 12:55 AM
hmm i guess

atlanta788
10-12-2008, 12:57 AM
ty srl forums these make rs much more enjoyable ;)

Bobbarkerfoo
10-13-2008, 03:16 AM
thanks srl i can play rs again now :f:

Bobbarkerfoo
10-13-2008, 03:18 AM
how many scrips can i download?

AlexanderTheGreat
10-13-2008, 05:28 PM
Thx rofl ^^
I'll try xd

Bobbarkerfoo
10-14-2008, 12:12 AM
how long it take 2 be junior member?

Bobbarkerfoo
10-14-2008, 12:13 AM
it said i had 11 post yesturday, i sent one today and it says i have 3

Lacky
10-14-2008, 05:57 AM
Because you are "El Spamalot", most likely.

WT-Fakawi
10-14-2008, 07:12 PM
This thread in my opinion should be locked.

I guess you are right, Lacky. But on the other hand it is good these Autoing Rules appear on top of forum "new post" once and a while. Though I must admit this spamming is ridiculous.

Laur€ns
10-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Jezus Christ. Epic ban that guy plawx? I hate spam. (A)

Lolar
10-14-2008, 09:40 PM
These rules are an enjoyable read.

Now of course due to the update... an army of 20 may be useless-- but if you were one determined son of a bitch you could wreck the market. Imagine selling 1000k shark for 10 gp each? Of course it'd rebound but... would cause some serious annoyance to people who make money off of shark.

** You'd probably need a network of people going to achieve that.

Lacky
10-15-2008, 06:10 AM
I guess you are right, Lacky. But on the other hand it is good these Autoing Rules appear on top of forum "new post" once and a while. Though I must admit this spamming is ridiculous.

Prune the thread perhaps?

Can't you also bump the thread with a bump moderator power or something?

MaverickP-51
10-25-2008, 08:50 AM
ty for the help

jondyr
10-25-2008, 11:38 AM
Thanks. helped me alot making a auto team.

Fsoul
10-26-2008, 12:28 AM
Hehe... I guess I have to follow the Rules ^-^

Scar Newbie v1
10-26-2008, 10:44 AM
I guess you are right, Lacky. But on the other hand it is good these Autoing Rules appear on top of forum "new post" once and a while. Though I must admit this spamming is ridiculous.

You could put them in a forum that doesn't have post count increase.

Andyz55
10-26-2008, 11:34 PM
Do I really have to auto 24/7?
btw if everyone who plays unsigned says they are going to auto, dont you think that runescape will pick up on that and watch unsigned people closer?
idk just a thought


hey WT, is your avatar supposed to be that old guy in draynor who robbed the bank and stole that p-hat? Jw lol he kinda looks like him, but only because his hat sort-of looks like a blue p-hat.

Bad Processor
10-27-2008, 09:50 AM
How do you play on Unsigned?
The new login 'idea' makes it more difficult.
PS. Am I bumping this?

jada7770
10-28-2008, 10:12 PM
Ill keep these in mind

shabab93
11-04-2008, 12:55 PM
o ok i dident know u had to creat like 6 players to auto effectly

shabab93
11-04-2008, 12:57 PM
but i still don't know how to start a script and it works compleatly.......and y know were i can get help to learn how?

tsingh1992
11-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Is it really necessary to have an army?

alias8818
11-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Not really, but it will increase your income.
More players + more ores = more money... Etc..

AlexR
11-05-2008, 06:20 PM
lol, these are good rules; i liked the " respect jagex " part.

swan1
11-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the rules.

Jayden
11-08-2008, 12:51 AM
Thank's alot, these are good rules!

Skullfire987
11-08-2008, 02:22 PM
Thanks for the 7 steps to greatness :P

I didn't realize how many autos some people here have o.o.
I guess that is pretty nice compared to a lvl 3 nab try to figure out how to cut trees LOL...

Anyway: Im new here obviously and I really enjoy the simple stickies! thanks! :garfield:

Oh yes and how do you play unsigned again? I mean they updated rs so I can't find it now...

Sags
11-16-2008, 08:46 AM
i wish i could comply with rule 7 i can never manage more than an hour, ah well still helps

RichNubzor
11-22-2008, 01:32 AM
hehe smart. I've been a legit player of runescape for 4 years now, and quit on the merchanting & staking updates. Now im back full throttle hitting them with bots xD, these rules help thx, I was working with 1 account before hehe.

realm
11-28-2008, 12:12 PM
thanks for the rules :D

mounty
11-28-2008, 09:55 PM
Like the idea of having an army work for 24 hours cant wait to give it a try.cheers good article.

Boblet
11-29-2008, 12:01 AM
I admit it. I'd been botting using a level 3. Until now :)

Bergkamp
12-05-2008, 04:11 AM
24/7 online?

Oh! If you're using a laptop, you can't turn off you monitor(or can?), so your laptop will be broken. It waste money a lot. Any idea?

Kiloch
12-05-2008, 03:56 PM
24/7 online?

Oh! If you're using a laptop, you can't turn off you monitor(or can?), so your laptop will be broken. It waste money a lot. Any idea?

*Cries for the murder of the English language!*

Generally you should have a screen saver on your laptop, which should mean it won't burn any image into your screen. Also, laptop monitors are built to last, they wont break with 24 or 48 hours of use.

siniCheah
12-07-2008, 05:10 PM
laptop monitors are built to last, they wont break with 24 or 48 hours of use.

I was talking to a friend yesterday who recently bought some hp laptop.

Got so hot after leaving it on for a few hours that his screen started melting and stopped working. ;)

But that was probably some once-in-a-blue-moon defective unit. HP quality control ftw.

Boblet
12-08-2008, 12:17 AM
which should mean it won't burn any image into your screen.
Unless your laptop screen is CRT (I highly doubt it) then no screen burn will occur. Image persistence can but that is usually temporary.

Santa R. Claus
12-08-2008, 02:43 AM
I like rule #7:D

Bergkamp
12-08-2008, 09:22 AM
*Cries for the murder of the English language!*

Generally you should have a screen saver on your laptop, which should mean it won't burn any image into your screen. Also, laptop monitors are built to last, they wont break with 24 or 48 hours of use.

I'm sorry. I have very bad English.

There are programs that can turn off your laptop's monitor when you press on the keyboard or move your mouse. Are there any programs that you can set the keyboard buttons that will turn on your laptop's monitor when pressed?(like Ctrl+Alt+M). Because, if you are running scripts, the mouse pointer will move all time, so the monitor will turn on.

gamefreak 75
12-11-2008, 01:25 AM
haha this is all true and very helpful. thanks :D

Exuvium
12-11-2008, 01:44 AM
Dang. when i git better i'll try to git a report of maybe 2 years. Lol that would be impressive. Right?

Tom_Gower
12-12-2008, 08:34 AM
well im sorry to say but it would be impossible, see how ar you get though. No why its impossible because runescape updates itself. You would need a script which reloads the page every 10 days or whatever, and patiently wait for runescape to load. I wonder what the longest proggy ever is??

pk ownage94
12-18-2008, 06:53 PM
I still don't understand what UID is or what it does.... Can anyone explain in detail please?

thanks,

-PK:)

enidraj
12-19-2008, 06:10 AM
i have been using srl for like 6 months now, personally i dont understand rule number two. wats the points of a TWENTY man army, surely you wouldnt gain many levels and it would be hard to get them all at decent combat levels so that jagex doesnt suspect autoiing? and if you use scripts for profit in runescape how do you transfer money from 20 different accounts. possibly playing with an army of five characters is enough?

sheffy101
01-04-2009, 08:26 PM
thank you,
that will come in handy

Harbinger
01-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Just a quick question, how exactly do you use an unsigned game window? I used to know how to use one before Runescape got updated, but now it just pushes you into the game window screen without giving you any real options.

Other than that, I do like the Rule 7, and plan on fully following it :D

seanjnt
01-04-2009, 09:52 PM
my personal favorite is #2 lol nobody reports 20 guys

HotLeatherPants
01-05-2009, 01:50 AM
I like number 2 also. Probably very much harder to get a ban if you have 20 different accounts.

PoPC0rN
01-05-2009, 06:41 PM
rule 2 i lol'd.

party stoner
01-08-2009, 03:34 AM
thanks

drewd45
01-21-2009, 10:09 PM
how come my buddy gets away with autoing 24/7 for like 2 weeks now and hasnt been banned?? and only on 1 char...

xzheroz
01-28-2009, 11:18 PM
like the rules except. what if u auto on one acc for only like an hour and u continue to play runescape? wat bout that army and 24/7 stuff?

Automotron
02-15-2009, 06:14 AM
I can't auto unsigned, the dial-up would kill me.
Or I would kill it.
But deleting the UID.dat file from time to time might be a good idea.

yingying
02-15-2009, 07:39 PM
Very nice rules, will help a lot. Thanks!

ExXoDuS
02-18-2009, 11:10 PM
Thanks

ant lol
03-03-2009, 04:20 AM
ill try to follow by these =]

probably can't do the 24/7 though XD
thanks.

killerguns01
03-07-2009, 04:42 AM
What exactly is a UID?

So as to be able to change it.

SuperCalum
03-31-2009, 06:09 PM
Hey :)

Szabados
04-12-2009, 05:59 PM
Wow, this is really good information! I didn't realize that if each character only spends 30 minutes logged in, you get such reduced randoms. That will help a lot! Thanks!

Mystic
04-18-2009, 02:21 PM
Haha, some awesome rules, I'll try to get that rule 7 down :o

~Penguin

CptTerrell
04-23-2009, 07:44 AM
siiiiiiick, im gunna make a huge army :)

kabilie
05-12-2009, 07:09 PM
does someone knows where to find my srl id?

Dark Arcana
05-16-2009, 06:48 PM
does someone knows where to find my srl id?

SRL-Stats are currently down but it will be up soon ;)

roflmao
06-12-2009, 12:21 PM
Nice rules will follow