Will SRL/SCAR ever come over to NeXus bot inter...

[ckeboss]

Hi, I was thinking that neXus is just a bot interface... right? So could Scar ever be in that bot interface... So it would not have to jack your mouse? I know about vms and things but im running of a 2.4 ghz celeron cpu and 512 meg ram... Will this ever become reality?

[Boreas]

Short answer is no.

There are at least 4 ways to not jack the mouse, not including VMs. They just aren't in this time and place.

[ruler]

SCAR was in the bot interface nexus started out as UBI (Universal Bot Interface)
Year ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wMYXeoBQ8Wc

We moved away from this due to many reasons
More info:
http://www.rscheata.net/nexus16x0.pdf

[ckeboss]

Ok, I have read the pdf... and i dont get why Scar still can not tell nexus what to do. If i understand right(tell me if i'm wrong Ruler) neXus is just an Interface, now and earler, you have just put more focus on iBot. Like you di with Ares, it was a stand-alone client. Then, Once the sorce was leaked, it come to Nexus as the interface, and Ares the bot, still client hacking, still ares, just with a neXus "skin" if you will. So, why cant Scar, just be put into that bot interface and be able to minimize, run more then one bot, and other neXus things. I am not talking about iBot... Just neXus, the "skin" Also Ruler, when you sell auths, are you selling the iBot lite and iBot pro or nexus lite and ibot lite and neXus pro and iBot pro. Just think is we could have our scar and beable to run 2-4 bots at a time, have mutiplayer, and most of all, Scar SCRIPTING! I have looked at iBot scripting and, well, its a lot harder for me then scar. So is it posable to have an

(ok, its like 5 min in pait, did not feal like geting old cs3 out =)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t30/mosesdog2/neXusScar.jpg

[ruler]

Cruel played with UBI a bit.
Cruel Client + UBI + fun= http://youtube.com/watch?v=GgwJwvRwkO0

We did do minimzing over a year ago.
We use Cruel Client + UBI + SCAR + SRL. It has many issues that needed really hackish solution. It used alot of Hard drive IO, bc we had very limited access to the SCAR internals. He has to use setBitmap etc. It was a window solution only. He had great difficulty running just 2 of this.
Just about every piece of the solution was in efficent.

We were use to Aryan where we could run many bots.

So we started working on a completely unified, intgrated solution know as iBot. So many optimizations, hacks, algothrims, ideas go into system.

I brought UBI back in my 6 month cycle of being optimistic about SCAR then quitting lol.

Here is it open source, just drop it in a ibot lite.
http://www.rscheata.net/tp/index.php/board,211.0.html


Some people wrote some functions to talk to it from SCAR:
http://www.kyab.asssoft.org/smf/index.php/topic,244.0.html

[ckeboss]

Ok... but the scar still can not "talk" to nexus's mouse "thingy"(lol) using UBI, right?

[ruler]

Ok... but the scar still can not "talk" to nexus's mouse "thingy"(lol) using UBI, right?
it can re-read the links above

[ckeboss]

it can re-read the links above

what does that mean?

[Hobbit]

it can re-read the links above

He ment "it can, re-read the links above"

And was telling you to reread the links in the above posts.

[ckeboss]

Ok, I can load a ubi bot in neXus, how do i run a script? i copied

also, if you have neXus pro, can you miniamize?

//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
//-- Scar Standard Resource Library --//
//-- UBI Routines for UBI vX.xx --//
//-----------------------------------------------------------------//
// * procedure UBI_Connect; // * by IceFire908.
// * procedure UBI_DisConnect; // * by IceFire908.
// * function UBI_Connected: Boolean; // * by IceFire908.
// * function SetUpUBI: Boolean; // * by IceFire908.
// * function UBI_GetPlayerX: LongInt; // * by IceFire908.
// * function UBI_GetPlayerY: LongInt; // * by IceFire908.
// * function UBI_GetLocation: TPoint; // * by IceFire908.
// * procedure UBI_WalkToTile(X, Y: LongInt); // * by IceFire908.
// * procedure UBI_MMouse(X, Y: LongInt); // * by IceFire908.
// * procedure UBI_Mouse(X, Y: LongInt; Left: Boolean); // * by IceFire908.

{ var UBI_Conn_Index: LongInt;
Description: The index of the connection with UBI. }
var
UBI_Conn_Index: LongInt;

{ const UBIDebug;
Description: Debugmessages will be diplayed if UBIDebug = True. }
const
UBIDebug = False;

{************************************************* ******************************
procedure UBI_Connect;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Connects to UBI.
************************************************** *****************************}

procedure UBI_Connect;
begin
if (UBI_Conn_Index <> 0) then FreeConnection(UBI_Conn_Index);
UBI_Conn_Index := OpenConnection('127.0.0.1', 3000, 3000);
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
procedure UBI_DisConnect;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Closes the UBI connection.
************************************************** *****************************}

procedure UBI_DisConnect;
begin
FreeConnection(UBI_Conn_Index);
UBI_Conn_Index := 0;
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
function UBI_Connected: Boolean;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Returns true if UBI is connected.
************************************************** *****************************}

function UBI_Connected: Boolean;
begin
Result := IsConnectionOpen(UBI_Conn_Index);
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
function SetUpUBI: Boolean;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Sets up UBI, returns true if connection did not fail.
************************************************** *****************************}

function SetUpUBI: Boolean;
begin
if (UBI_Conn_Index <> 0) then FreeConnection(UBI_Conn_Index);
UBI_Connect;
Result := UBI_Connected;
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
function UBI_GetPlayerX: LongInt;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Returns the current x-axis value for your tile.
************************************************** *****************************}

function UBI_GetPlayerX: LongInt;
var
Str: string;
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
SendConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, 'getx');
ReadConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, Str);
Result := StrToIntDef(Str, 0);
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
function UBI_GetPlayerY: LongInt;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Returns the current y-axis value for your tile.
************************************************** *****************************}

function UBI_GetPlayerY: LongInt;
var
Str: string;
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
SendConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, 'gety');
ReadConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, Str);
Result := StrToIntDef(Str, 0);
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
function UBI_GetLocation: TPoint;
By: IceFire908.
Description: Returns current tile as a TPoint.
************************************************** *****************************}

function UBI_GetLocation: TPoint;
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
Result.X := UBI_GetPlayerX;
Result.Y := UBI_GetPlayerY;
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
procedure UBI_WalkToTile(X, Y: LongInt);
By: IceFire908.
Description: Walks to a tile using UBI.
************************************************** *****************************}

procedure UBI_WalkToTile(X, Y: LongInt);
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
SendConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, 'dowalk ' + IntToStr(X) + ' ' + IntToStr(Y));
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
procedure UBI_MMouse(X, Y: LongInt);
By: IceFire908.
Description: Moves the UBI mouse.
************************************************** *****************************}

procedure UBI_MMouse(X, Y: LongInt);
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
SendConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, 'mousemove ' + IntToStr(X) + ' ' + IntToStr(Y));
end;

{************************************************* ******************************
procedure UBI_Mouse(X, Y: LongInt; Left: Boolean);
By: IceFire908.
Description: Clicks the UBI mouse.
************************************************** *****************************}

procedure UBI_Mouse(X, Y: LongInt; Left: Boolean);
var
Str: string;
begin
if (not (UBI_Connected)) then Exit;
case (Left) of
True: Str := 'l ';
False: Str := 'r ';
end;
SendConnectionData(UBI_Conn_Index, 'mouseclick' + Str + IntToStr(X) + ' ' + IntToStr(Y));
end; Includes/SRL/SRL/Misc/

now what do I do?

[Smartzkid]

That's for you to figure out.

Basically, just rewrite the script you want to use with those functions.

[ruler]

neXus pro is for minimzing with ibot scripts

nexus pro + ubi does not equal scar minizing. It possible but SRL ppl would not be thrilled at all. Their is miniziing SCAR and its private to SRL devs.
Also from a development perspective its a step backwards.

[Wizzup?]

Hi, I was thinking that neXus is just a bot interface... right? So could Scar ever be in that bot interface... So it would not have to jack your mouse? I know about vms and things but im running of a 2.4 ghz celeron cpu and 512 meg ram... Will this ever become reality?

With plugins it is possible make silent mouses and offscreen color searching.

[ckeboss]

but you wont let the comunity have them?

[n3ss3s]

Any tips where is info more about these plugins?

Or how to make...?

xD

Im just curious to try anything silent mouse/ minimizing because a) I wasnt there when Aryan came b) I came when silent mouse of scar was dead.

[ckeboss]

hey ya wizzup?, are those plugins available to srl dev or are they not made yet. And ruler, why does the srl com unity not like the minimizing scar?

[dundern]

jope this stuff really works i need a good willow cutter :)

[ckeboss]

jope this stuff really works i need a good willow cutter :)

spam much?

[dundern]

not actually but i made a simple question about ubi haven't ever heard about it

[Hobbit]

hey ya wizzup?, are those plugins available to srl dev or are they not made yet. And ruler, why does the srl com unity not like the minimizing scar?

No one said we didn't like a minimising SCAR. I think it would have Pros and Cons. But in my opinion if we did have access to it the 1 con would outweight the Pros. Abuse.

[ckeboss]

Ya, but just make it so you can run 1 bot, just so you dont have to hog your familys computer, or have a paytouse auth

[Hobbit]

If only life were that simple and everyone was that honest and trustworthy

[ckeboss]

cant you just restrict it from running one bot? like In the code you restrict it so only one bot can be in use at one time?

[Hobbit]

Jagex's code 'restricts' us from autoing more then one at a time...we found away around it. But if there was something out there that minimizes it would be amazing, something other then nexus. Except as much as I would want to use it, it should be keeping away from the public to prevent abuse. It's not always about what you want, It's about whats best for everyone.

[ckeboss]

Wait, do you already have the technology to have a minimizing scar? Also, Nexus pro is not abused, because you have to pay to use it. So could we make a pay to use scar, with minimizing?

[Aje]

Im getting to know some facts... Keep the convo going... Im interested

[Hobbit]

Wait, do you already have the technology to have a minimizing scar?

my answer:

But if there was something out there that minimizes it would be amazing, something other then nexus. Except as much as I would want to use it, it should be keept away from the public to prevent abuse.

It's not always about what you want, It's about whats best for everyone.
And do I look like anyone special like a dev or admin.. :confused: I'm just a regular member so why would I know about it if there was one? :(

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Also, Nexus pro is not abused, because you have to pay to use it. So could we make a pay to use scar, with minimizing?
SCAR and SRL are free for everyone to use.

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Jagex's code 'restricts' us from autoing more then one at a time...we found away around it.

^^ Meaning signed + unsiged clients / VM's

[ckeboss]

well, you only have to usesigned/unsigned if you are going in the same world. Vms are the only way right now to have a min scar. any dev or admins that want to tell use if we have technolagy to name a minimizing scar?

[Hobbit]

Ok I'm sure if the SRL members aren't even sure if one exists I doubt they would tell junior members

[ckeboss]

hey! WT-Fakawi help us out plz? lol

[Trojanxxx]

i dont believe this will happen

appreciate this alot, thx so very much

great tut man i love this im such a noob, i was so confused lol

this helps im making some serious cash mining ess now almost 2m/week

kool tut man i was so confused at how everyone was telling me to dl this

it didnt work for me, but i used run as admin and that worked

thx man autoing here i come lol

:stirthepot:

greate tut, better than most that ive complimented

Spamming is not an acceptable way to raise post count

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[ckeboss]

stop spamming to get your freaking 10 posts!

[neG]

IMO, Releasing SCAR with 'off screen color searching' and 'silent mouse' (together make minimizing possible) capabilities would plant the seed for another RSDemon. Even with auth-servers and controlled releases it would leaked.

It would have to stay very private, SRL-Devs only at least.

[R0b0t1]

abuse = neXus + people < SCAR + allthatgoodshit + people = abuse

[ckeboss]

I have nexus pro, I love it. It works good for somethings. I use it for mining on my mining accounts. But its not a great auto fighter... so I use scar to train on seagulls or chickens. I'm just asking if it is in practice or if people like WT-Fakawi has achieved an i-bot pro like scar.

[Boreas]

I will say this:

How many admins have gone over to other cheating methods?
How many devs/mods have gone over to other cheating methods?
How many SRL Members have gone over to other cheating methods?
How many Junior SRL Members have gone over to other cheating methods?
How many registered users have gone over to other cheating methods?

You will see the amounts become more and more. Yes, there are more registered users than admins, so that makes sense, but even when you take that into account and put the answers in percent forms, there is still a pattern. The pattern indicates that more you learn to script, the better SCAR becomes.

[Kik]

I think that if the minimizable SCAR is ever completed (I believe it was/is in production, but is full of flaws, half finished, apparently doesn't work well, and is Devs only), It will stay that - Devs only. I would be surprised if it ever became SRL-Members only, and it it did it'd probably be kept a secret.

However, a lot of SRL Members and above (I'd say 1/3, maybe up to 1/2) don't even auto (including me) but just enjoy scripting.

[the scar noob]

Cruel played with UBI a bit.
Cruel Client + UBI + fun= http://youtube.com/watch?v=GgwJwvRwkO0

We did do minimzing over a year ago.
We use Cruel Client + UBI + SCAR + SRL. It has many issues that needed really hackish solution. It used alot of Hard drive IO, bc we had very limited access to the SCAR internals. He has to use setBitmap etc. It was a window solution only. He had great difficulty running just 2 of this.
Just about every piece of the solution was in efficent.

We were use to Aryan where we could run many bots.

So we started working on a completely unified, intgrated solution know as iBot. So many optimizations, hacks, algothrims, ideas go into system.

I brought UBI back in my 6 month cycle of being optimistic about SCAR then quitting lol.

Here is it open source, just drop it in a ibot lite.
http://www.rscheata.net/tp/index.php/board,211.0.html


Some people wrote some functions to talk to it from SCAR:
http://www.kyab.asssoft.org/smf/index.php/topic,244.0.html

Dude, how the hell do you make that stuff?
Are you and Cruel like legends in this stuff?
^^and your bro GenoDemon ofcource..

[ckeboss]

Well, I don't macro that much anyway... Right now i'm running a fight caves script. I would just like to ask closeing up this thread, If there a minamizable scar open to dev?

[mickaliscious]

So how effective are VM's? Someone has claimed they slow down your computer and kill the lifespan... Does anyone have more information than that on Virtual Machines?

Just thought this was a good thread and i'd like to learn more.

[ruler]

So how effective are VM's? Someone has claimed they slow down your computer and kill the lifespan... Does anyone have more information than that on Virtual Machines?

Just thought this was a good thread and i'd like to learn more.
Does not limit lifespan of your computer.

However vms take alot of ram/cpu usage.

[mickaliscious]

So what is a good amount of ram to have to use a virtual machine? I would probably only want to run one on my computer.