Guide to 99 Smithing by Lolpie

[lolpie]

Smithing is easily one of the toughest skills to level up. This guide will show you the fastest, most effective way to get 99 without wasting any time. It's intended for F2Pers but P2Pers can get something out of it too, I think.

What you need:
-4-8 accounts (now referred to as mules), and your main account you wanna raise smithing on
-SCAR, iBot, or any other working macroing program

What you do:
-Get your mules through tutorial island then auto their combat level to around 50 (explained later).
-Take them to Southeast or Southwest Varrock and powermine on them till you get 15 mining. Keep all the items that you gained from doing this.
-Find/beg for/make a script that mines and banks all iron ores from Southeast or Southwest Varrock. Run it until all of your accounts have 60 mining.

Now I will explain the plan: because smithing requires a ton of ores, it's pointless to mine all the ores yourself on your main because that's a huge waste of time. What we will do is make half of your mules go to the mining guild (hence the 50 combat...avoids instant bannage), and keep the other two mining iron at Southeast or Southwest Varrock. All your main will simply do is simply take the ores (I do this in intervals of 5k or 10k ores) from the mules, smelt them, then smith the ores.

What next?
-First, do any quests that give smithing XP on your main. I'm a F2P, so the only one I know is The Knight's Sword - it takes you from level 1 to level 33 smithing :D
-HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING - Once you get to 50 smithing, you'll have the urge to make mithril items. DON'T! Making steel plates is easily the best XP gainer (for F2P) out there:


The only good way to level up for a non-member is by smithing Steel Platebodies. Some people may be wondering why this is the best method for training, here is the explanation. Let say that you have 1000 Coals (since you need Coal for all the items above Steel), with 1000 Coals, while making Steel Platebodies, you receive (1000/ 2) * 55 = 27500 experience points. If you are making Mithril Platebodies, you will only receive (1000/4) * 80 = 20000 experience points. Same thing goes for Adamant and for Rune.

Now all you have to do is keep your mules mining constantly (3-5 hours a day, excluding weekends), then transferring the loot to your main via virtual machines (Search button pl0x), then smelting and smithing them into items.

Enjoy, and good luck on your quest to 99 smithing, if you choose to accept the challenge!

Here's a very good Smithing guide: http://runescape.salmoneus.net/smithing_help.html

[mark9510]

nice i will definatly try this soon

[shaz]

*imagines what it would be like to smith r2h*
Man! What were jagex thinking when they set the smithing lvls to enable r2h Making... They didn't actually think we'd ever reach such a birdun of a feat did they :/.

[Moee]

oooo, looks like something i will try great guide! :)

[Kokosing]

interesting, i might be up for da challenge.. ´gj

[steveinater]

nice guide, some well thought out reasons for levels, im glad you added the 50 cmb suggestion in that is where a lot of autoers go all wrong.

it was a bit obvious of a guide tho, auto on mauls and smith on the main but im shore it will help out some of the people that are a bit slow to catch on the the idea.

[Victim14]

If you have 4 virtual machines running at the same time, won't that lag your computer a lot?

[gamer 5]

Something I will try soon!!!
Right Now I Buy Coal and Iron ores Smelt them and sell bars back!!

With this process I also make money but it takes forever!!!

[Lacky]

Will try out. ^^ :)

[Twisted]

Nice guide! I'll try this out.

[WT-Fakawi]

Its the part above Smithing 70 that becomes tricky. I have never managed to lift my Players above that. And, if you do the math to lvl 99 correctly (tip.it), its 13,034,431 XP to level 99. One Steel Platebody gives you 187.5 XP. Thats roughly 70k Platebodies! Or: 350K Iron and 700k Coal! so you need 1 million resources.


Lets say you make max out 200 Coal an hour. That is on a 80 hours per week basis: 16.000 Coal. 700k/16.000 = 43 weeks straight GuildMining.
Next we need 350K Iron. That we will produce at a rate of 300 per Hour. Thats roughly 350.000/(300*80) =14 weeks.
Next we need to Melt all this to steel bars. 70k Platebodies = 350k Steel Bars. My Melter makes 200 per hour, roughly. Thats 350.000/200*80 = 21 Weeks.
Now we need to Smith all this to Platebodies @ 500 per hour. Thats 350.000/500*80 = 8.7 weeks.


It will take you 86.7 weeks to get to that point, and well before that your army will have been minimized. Believe me: Its too hard, I tried. :)

[BenLand100]

It will take you 86.7 weeks to get to that point, and well before that your army will have been minimized. Believe me: Its too hard, I tried. :)
Now go back to the Aryan days when I could run 12 total between two computers. Less than 8 weeks ;) I think in total I sold at least 900k coal, so its feasible :p

[tehpure]

Maybe theres a better way then steel plates once your past them..

[lolpie]

Its the part above Smithing 70 that becomes tricky. I have never managed to lift my Players above that. And, if you do the math to lvl 99 correctly (tip.it), its 13,034,431 XP to level 99. One Steel Platebody gives you 187.5 XP. Thats roughly 70k Platebodies! Or: 350K Iron and 700k Coal! so you need 1 million resources.


Lets say you make max out 200 Coal an hour. That is on a 80 hours per week basis: 16.000 Coal. 700k/16.000 = 43 weeks straight GuildMining.
Next we need 350K Iron. That we will produce at a rate of 300 per Hour. Thats roughly 350.000/(300*80) =14 weeks.
Next we need to Melt all this to steel bars. 70k Platebodies = 350k Steel Bars. My Melter makes 200 per hour, roughly. Thats 350.000/200*80 = 21 Weeks.
Now we need to Smith all this to Platebodies @ 500 per hour. Thats 350.000/500*80 = 8.7 weeks.


It will take you 86.7 weeks to get to that point, and well before that your army will have been minimized. Believe me: Its too hard, I tried. :)

This is assuming that you're running SCAR, right? I'm using other bots as well...I can get around 2,000-3,000 coal in a day, safely :). Also you did your calculations based on the assumption that one will do all the autoing one at a time, in reality we'll be running VMs so we can auto coal, iron, and smelting/smithing at the same time.


If you have 4 virtual machines running at the same time, won't that lag your computer a lot?

-One for autoing coal
-One for autoing iron
-Another for smelting or smithing (can't do both at the same time on your main). Or you can run VMs for the first two and use the host computer to smelt or smith


Something I will try soon!!!
Right Now I Buy Coal and Iron ores Smelt them and sell bars back!!

With this process I also make money but it takes forever!!!


Maybe theres a better way then steel plates once your past them..

Well if you're a F2P, steel plates give the most XP. If you're P2P, you can smith gold while wearing gauntlets or something, and that gives around 50 XP per bar

[Da Der Der]

I think it's a good and useful tutorial. But I don't think that it should be title for 99 smithing. I think this would be a very easy way to get your smithing up, but also, if you continually auto in the guild day after day, then Jagex will catch on eventually and they will ban you. But yes, it is an effective way to gain smithing levels :)

- Da Der Der -

[WT-Fakawi]

2k Coal/Day is not far off from my estimation. And yes, it is possibly to distribute this amongst multiple bots. I just needed the numbers to get it straight.

[Jackrawl]

Wrong, Steel is the most efficient way - not the fastest.

[WT-Fakawi]

Wrong, Steel is the most efficient way - not the fastest.

You are right. That was the whole point :)

[lolpie]

Wrong, Steel is the most efficient way - not the fastest.

If it's the most effecient, doesn't that also make it the fastest?

[yeahdudeirock]

that will take long, but anyway sum people might try it... great work keep it up

[tarajunky]

No, steel isn't the most efficient. Iron bars are still the most efficient F2P.

The limiting factor here is the SMELTING. Anyone can power smith bars in Varrock in a short period of time. And whether you're transferring ores to your main or selling the ores then transferring the money to your main, the price of the resources should be considered.

Smelt and smith Iron bars = 37.5 xp
Requires 2 iron ore = 200 gp
Cost efficiency = 5.3 gp per xp
14 per smelting trip = 525 total xp

Smelt and smith Steel bars = 55 xp
Requires 1 iron ore + 2 coal... 500 gp
Cost efficiency = 9.1 gp per xp
9 per smelting trip = 495 total xp

Now if you let your army do the smelting for you and you just smith the bars, you need to smith 350k steel bars, or 525k iron bars.

Based on the 9:14 ratio, you still end up ahead if you do the iron bars, since in the time it takes to smelt 350k steel, you could have smelted 545k iron.

If you smith 500 bars per hour, it only takes an extra 350 hours (2 weeks) to do the extra 175k iron bars. :)

[ShowerThoughts]

i think if you smith iron you can get much more then 500 ;)

but great idea

i will never do this :eek:

[lolpie]

No, steel isn't the most efficient. Iron bars are still the most efficient F2P.

The limiting factor here is the SMELTING. Anyone can power smith bars in Varrock in a short period of time. And whether you're transferring ores to your main or selling the ores then transferring the money to your main, the price of the resources should be considered.

Smelt and smith Iron bars = 37.5 xp
Requires 2 iron ore = 200 gp
Cost efficiency = 5.3 gp per xp
14 per smelting trip = 525 total xp

Smelt and smith Steel bars = 55 xp
Requires 1 iron ore + 2 coal... 500 gp
Cost efficiency = 9.1 gp per xp
9 per smelting trip = 495 total xp

Now if you let your army do the smelting for you and you just smith the bars, you need to smith 350k steel bars, or 525k iron bars.

Based on the 9:14 ratio, you still end up ahead if you do the iron bars, since in the time it takes to smelt 350k steel, you could have smelted 545k iron.

If you smith 500 bars per hour, it only takes an extra 350 hours (2 weeks) to do the extra 175k iron bars. :)

Tarajunky, I forgot to mention that if you making that many steel plates, you can high-alch them to make a ton of money, then you have a self-sufficient business right there :D <- my plan

Smelting/smithing iron is faster, but in the long run it won't make you money until you get to 99 smithing.

[mark9510]

iron is extremely fast to mine compared to coal but there are a small amount of auto miners for iron

[exppo]

kl beans

[waterfoul]

Thanks a ton :) :f:

[schoony]

Sounds a little crazy...

and very time consuming.

[buck cakes]

i'm intruiged, but i think the guide could use a little tweaking.
2 players per mine?
how long can 2 players mine for? I would go for 8 player armies in each mining area, this way you minimize the risk of being banned, and you get more materials.

[runeman220]

well thought out

[runeman11]

fastest way is to merch coal, and then use the money you make to purchase iron and more coal...

[xX Shadow Xx]

hum...you shoudl post a script that can mine and bank :) aside from that, very good!

[tckaile]

very nice. i've also found that if you don't mind wasting natures and have a high enough mage level then you can also superheat iron ore and the outcome it an iron bar 100% of the time! great tut though

[phinoxrobo]

umm... im a noob but i find the fastest way to get smithing up is crafting guants and bank/mine gold ores :\ it works great and its not to slow

[Paul23]

i had a real account a little while back that I didn't macro on. I was particularly interested in raising my smithing and found after some investigation that the blast furnace was the only way to do it quickly. (I got my smithing up to 84 - no macroing - and yes it was dull)

What you need is
1. Some cash - bout 100K
2. A lot of nats (55 mage for high alching)

What you do is
1. Buy ore from Dwarf near furnace and put into furnace
2. Make mith or steel bars - it doesn't really matter which
3. Make the bars into plates.
4. Alch the plates and start again.

Note - the money you get from alching your plates covers your cost for the ore (give or take) so your 100k should stay fairly constant. Your nats will decrease but you will just have to buy them or something.

The only thing is that I think that this would be pretty hard to macro - but it is I would say about 5 times faster smithing xp than anything else.

Paul

[tckaile]

'm sorry but i don't see how your 100k stays constant...

if you try to make steel bars here is your payout:

buy iron ore 18 (lowest) and 2 coal 49 (lowest) (18 + 49(2) = 116)
now we find out how many steel bars we'll be able to make with 100k (100,000 / 116 = roughly 862)
if we bought 2 coal and 1 iron for 116 and steel bars high alch for only 60 gp then we are left with 51720gp (862 x 60)
so you are smelting at nearly a 50% loss

as for mith we get this:

we buy mith bars at 242 and 2 coal at 49 (lowest) (242 + 49(2) = 340)
now how many mith bars? (100,000 / 340 = roughly 294)
high alch 294 mith bars for 97 gp ea and we get (294 x 97 = 28518)

me personally i like making mith bars and selling them for around 1k - 1.3k and steel bars i use to raise my smithing or sell for 600 ea

using my method this is your payout:

steel:
862 x 600 = 517,200 gp over 500% profit
mith:
294 x 1.3 = 382,200 gp over 380% profit

i don't agree that you can raise your smelting like this with a constant flow of money but it is a good way to make it! nice job anyway! ;)

[slackjaw7]

Right now I have my mules getting their stats up and getting a few good F2P quests done so that I can gather the xp from that too. Right now I'm still using them to get F2P Ess as well for the smithing lvls. My main is 78 smithing so i have a good start on it anyways. But this is great. I started out using Jukka's guild miner on my main, but that made me nervous, so I stopped doing that. I would sit in front of the computer watching him mine, hell if i'm gonna do that I'll just put my hand on the mouse and get going. lmao. Thanks again for the tip though.:cartman: :rolleyes:

Slackjaw7

[lolpie]

Its the part above Smithing 70 that becomes tricky. I have never managed to lift my Players above that.

You have one of your players at 70 smithing?? Can I have one of your smithers?


It will take you 86.7 weeks to get to that point, and well before that your army will have been minimized. Believe me: Its too hard, I tried. :)

True, but that won't deter me.

[kingarabian]

Eh did you ever try smelting iron ores? Its impossible to get more then 20 bars if ure ftp.

[6RoHmU9]

Thats almost ok... but it will take almost 1.8 years to get your lvl 99 smithing.

[Paul23]

tckaile,

You missed a little of the point - i didn't make myself fully clear.

There are anvils in the blast furnace. You make your bars into plates and alch those. - You don't alch the bars.

1200- steel plate
3600ish - mith plate

Paul

[tabclausen]

im new at VMs i just found out that you can run more than 1 auto at a time anyone got a link where i can see how VMs work so i may use more than 1 auto from my comp at a time?



EDIT: nvm i just found out you had one standing right in front of me :P

[pedilus1]

how long those this usually takes if u have like about 55 smithing

[kor]

how long those this usually takes if u have like about 55 smithing

im sorry to tell you that this is a huge grave digging. look at the date above your post. (10-26-2007)

Pretty rough, dont you think?

[BKNYKavkaz]

yeh, this is old, but good enough to revive.



i had a real account a little while back that I didn't macro on. I was particularly interested in raising my smithing and found after some investigation that the blast furnace was the only way to do it quickly. (I got my smithing up to 84 - no macroing - and yes it was dull)

What you need is
1. Some cash - bout 100K
2. A lot of nats (55 mage for high alching)

What you do is
1. Buy ore from Dwarf near furnace and put into furnace
2. Make mith or steel bars - it doesn't really matter which
3. Make the bars into plates.
4. Alch the plates and start again.

Note - the money you get from alching your plates covers your cost for the ore (give or take) so your 100k should stay fairly constant. Your nats will decrease but you will just have to buy them or something.

The only thing is that I think that this would be pretty hard to macro - but it is I would say about 5 times faster smithing xp than anything else.

Paul



best method by far. i will try this out.

[Alco13]

hiya wikid idea il give it a try

[metalguitarfro]

Thanks, I will have to try this. Been trying to get my mining and smithing to very high levels :)

[novitec]

W000t awesome man thank you, i will try this asap lol

[The_Scripts]

It's to bad you can't really trade anymore, or this would of been awsome :(

[William]

if it only worked now a days :(

[lixi]

:spot: thanks so much

[Laimonas171]

cool guide, i try it but first need good auto miner script.. if someone know that please pm me thank you

[ShowerThoughts]

Trade limit FTW?

[monkeykg]

Could you give any indication as to how long this would take cause im curious as to if i should do this. nice guide though clearly well thought out

[lost_sum_teeth]

if u mine the ores it will be more money because your mining will reach 85 when you can mine runite :spot:

[Shenkai]

How do you account for the trade restrictions on Runescape??? (Sorry if this has been talked about already, I didn't read all the posts in your thread.)

[lamo528]

nice planned out guide not going to use but gl for someone that does

[runeman666]

how much xp do u get for iron plates anyway?

[zealkctro]

may i ask what is a virtual machine?
how can i transfer the ores to the main?

[BIMZ]

Trying this atm.
Sounds convincing!
If it works; I'll let you all know!

[cricketfreak210]

Very nice guide i will have to try this soon.