how many vms can i hold

[mark9510]

okay i am getting a brand new desktop and it is going to have a 4gb ram and a 4ghz processor so how many vms can i hold to keep the computer in a good state to make documents and maybe play a full screen video game

[Runescapian321]

:eek: 4gb holy...

Well lets say the game and doc and whatever other programs you have up takes around 1GB. 3GB left which is about.....I'm dieing here, 10 VMs or so...I suggest though don't use more than like 5 otherwise your computer might be a bit stressed even with all that ram.


EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot that the processor was 4GB, as mentioned below.

OMG! 10 vms constantly running, z0mg I'd faint if I had that much. Aaaah now I see why you're making 60 chars and all as posted in your sig....

[HellBoyz]

No, that should be ok to run 10 since the processor of 4Ghz will take care of it.

[mark9510]

wow that is so sweet i would like to run 12 is that possible and yes 60accounts is alot but i got some runescape noobs to make them for me so if i have 12 vms i will be making 2m -4m a day wow

[HellBoyz]

12 will be possible just do the calculation

1 Vm x 256Mb ram

12 Vm x 256Mb ram = 3Gb ram

with 12 VM you make not just 4m but more then that

[PwNZoRNooB]

12 will be possible just do the calculation

1 Vm x 256Mb ram

12 Vm x 256Mb ram = 3Gb ram

with 12 VM you make not just 4m but more then that

Does 1 VM + scar actually take only 256mb ram :confused: ??
I thought it took 512mb ram.
Well how much VM + scar takes CPU then? 500MHz?

[HellBoyz]

It consume mostly on ram and wouldn't effect your CPU. Mostly with scar and rsclient running on vm will consume about 128mb virtual ram if you try to set it between 128 to less then 256mb virtual ram it will lag the rsclient and with 256mb virtual ram everything will be running smooth, as i said all vm consume our ram capacity and won't effect much on CPU itself

edit: Check your Windows Task Manager in VM for more details about the consumption of scar and RSClient

[Spky]

12 will be possible just do the calculation

1 Vm x 256Mb ram

12 Vm x 256Mb ram = 3Gb ram

with 12 VM you make not just 4m but more then that

CPU speed is equally as important here.

With 4gb RAM and an overclocked (quad?) you'll be able to run a decent amount.

[mark9510]

well i think i will just run about 10 vms that is good for me

[Eicca]

Depends on OS etc, put some lightweight linux in it (for example dsl) and you can run easily 10 vms.

[mark9510]

im talking im using vista and vmware with tiny xp

[Runescapian321]

im talking im using vista and vmware with tiny xp

Vista takes a bit more rescources than xp. I have vista w/ 1 GB of ram but my computer only runs smoothly if I run only one VM at about 250 ram. You should still be able to use 10, but probably not 12.

[Smartzkid]

I wouldn't want to be gaming on that thing, though....12 vm's...I hope you like 640 x 480.

[Eicca]

But if you have 60 accounts, you won't be able to play that much, because you have to manage the accounts all the time ;)

[Smartzkid]

But if you have 60 accounts, you won't be able to play that much, because you have to manage the accounts all the time ;)

Nah, if you're running a good script, things go pretty well...the only hard part is switching them between scripts

[mark9510]

yes and i have a couple of friends who will help me keep everything in order and i might make a script that teleports to lumby and walks to my destination

[man slaughter]

i bet ya you cant hold more than 6 until your processor cry's for help at 90+ cpu ussage. i have a 3ghz processor and its only because of the processor that i cant run more than 2. assuming you have an intel its hard to say if you can run more than six with only the ghz i mean processors made in 2004 have had 4ghz.
you should get a beefy quad that will run quite a few.

[mark9510]

i dont want i quad i am getting a dual core 2.00ghz

[Runescapian321]

i dont want i quad i am getting a dual core 2.00ghz

I thought you said it was 4.00 GHZ? If it's only 2 you probably won't even be able to run 3 or 4.

EDIT: or wait is that not proccessor GHZ lol? (I don't know much about comp parts :p)

[Smartzkid]

You're getting a 2.0 ghz dual core and you're running Vista?

One vm, maybe two. Depends what scripts you run and what you want to do on your computer.

If you don't need to do anything on your computer, you might get two, but your computer would be pretty useless while running them (assuming that you turn down vista's effects - kill aero, no dreams, blank screensaver, no sidebar)

You sure you're getting 4 gigs of ram with that thing? I've never even seen anything below 2.4 ghz with more than 2 gigs.

[mark9510]

well im getting 2ghz dual core so
2*2.00=4.00
and 4ghz
maybe ill get xp pro cause vista has bugs for now

[julian0]

How much does that computer will cost 0.o

[mark9510]

okay to tell everyone from dell i am getting it for around 1400 its not a gaming desktop but its good

[HellBoyz]

Dell? hmm cheap but ... no comment.... hope you wouldn't get any trouble from it

Edit: calculation for dual core its not count by multiply on it.
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/mobile/pm/sb/cs-007967.htm

On my source Intel Single Core 3.2Ghz = Intel Dual Core 1.66Ghz (with a bit faster)

[Camaro]

I have 8 gigs on one of my comps. I can run about 4-5 on it, but I can't do anything while I do it.

[mark9510]

whats the speed?

[Smartzkid]

1) Dells are all junk IMO. I wouldn't use one on a day to day basis if you paid me.

2) You can't just multiply dual core speeds like that. Few programs can fully utilize the full power of a dual core processor. More cores are better for running vm's though.

3) Vista is a memory and processor hog. Depending what you run, you'll be using one sixth to one third of your memory with only your host os, which will leave you just over one gig of ram for your vm's, assuming that you don't run any memory hoarding programs (anything adobe, p2p, firefox, games)

4) Lets say you can run a tinyxp vm with scar and rs on a 800mhz rig. Completely ignoring Vista, your max amount of vm's will be four, and that will leave you no power for Vista.

It comes down to this: You might be able to get four running. Maybe. If you want to do anything...I'd say 2 max.

If you want to squeeze in an extra one (maybe even two), install TinyXP as your host OS. Make a second partition, and you'll be able to use Vista when you're using your computer, and TinyXP when you're autoing.

[mark9510]

what if i was to use windows xp pro and have the same specs or maybe run some linux with vms

[HellBoyz]

The situation will remain the same just change vista to winxp or linux which ever came 1st

[-chaos-]

i have a Intel Quad Core and 3gb of 800Mhz memory upgrading to 4gb as soon as my stupid Asus P5N-E SLi can support it but yup im running 4 VM's with 300mb each perfectly i also have vista ultimate, im at 80% CPU Usage and 75% RAM usage so i am very well sure that there is no way you can handle 10 vms :) i would say you can run 5, but even with 5 expect your computer to be very slow because of CPU Usage will be at 100% all the time but ram usage will be at 70%

ya i know alot about computers :p i built my own so if you got any questions feel free to ask me

[HellBoyz]

again what about if we all use tinyxp as host and tinyxp as client. Chaos can you calculate the fact?

[sass]

One more thing: If you have 4GB of RAM, then it will not work under regular Windows XP or Vista. You need to get 64bit version, because 32bit will not detect 4GB of RAM.

[mark9510]

wow then i might as well try to figure out a new way to run at least 6 vms

[The Scar Scripter]

thats a lot of ram

[uncfan1119]

omg, imagine a chinese workshop full of 10 computers running 100 bots lol..think of how much geepees thatd be

[mark9510]

okay if someone could please tell me good specs to run 5vms and the host machine which would probably run microsoft word

[PwNZoRNooB]

I'm planning on buying a 3-3.2GHz Quad Core CPU and 4Gb of 900MHz ram next year.

How many do you think I could run then?

[mark9510]

please make your own thread but i could say a good 7vms

[HellBoyz]

ya probably around that

[Siikanen]

I got hp mediacentter 8100 + vista
3gbram
Athlon g4 x2 dual core 5000+ 3.60ghz

How many VMs i can hold if i use MS Virtual Pc 2007?

Adn how much one vm take computer pver resources?

[mark9510]

well vista is really a big ram eater so maybe 3 with that always go with windows xp for macroing

[[-jesus-]]

Do NOT get Vista Mark... Only regret of my new comp is that its Vista. Ex: Yesterday I just got done downloading the like... 15th "Security Patch" ive been sent. I chose to wait 4 hrs before being asked if I wanted to restart my comp again. So... 1 hour later the msg pops up, I chose to wait longer since it had only been an hour. Like 3 minutes later my comp crashed -.- & I didn't have vary many programs running.

Also: Running Vista Home Premium (3k MB of memory, 400 GB hard drive), IE, virus scanner & a few other small things takes up about 30% of my CPU Usage

[mark9510]

yes i am getting a vista but i will downgrade it to windows xp pro so i have vista when i get tired of srl

[Narcle]

okay if someone could please tell me good specs to run 5vms and the host machine which would probably run microsoft word
Well I personally would just get a fast quad core and designate which cpu to use for each one. Oh and make sure its XP pro/linux because vista is shit.

On my duel core laptop I can run 3 VMs while playing another FPS (XP pro). ONLY because I have designated VM to use only cpu 0, and the main computer use cpu 1. On a regular duel core you could probably run 6 VMs like this 3 on each cpu, but nothing else thats all it could do.

Todo anymore then 8 VMs would take a double to quad Opteron setup. With a Quad Opteron setup I could easily see 40 VMs on it depending on which type of cpus you have in it. Note the standard Quad Opteron setup is 8-16gb of ram, and 2-4 duel/quad core, 64bit processors AKA a server ;). And yes they are very expensive to make.

[mark9510]

okay well that is good enogh but 40 vms that could beat nielsie95 in less than 5 days

[corl455]

i just saw this thread thought ide post my specs.... ok i have a peice of crap computer...

512MB RAM
Pentium M processor (for laptops)
processor - 1.5GHz
integrated gateway graphics accelerator
1000 X 700 resolution


My computer sucks... i can barley run 1 VM with 130 ram set for it.

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

how are you going to run so many vm's with the same ip address? That would defeat the purpose of autoing, please let me know how you are getting differnet ip addresses for each VM!

[mark9510]

im going to hide my ip its a secret

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

pmed u =p

[mark9510]

okay there is a free program on www.ip-adress.com just look for it its a hint

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

i'd hate to break it to you but that doesn't work, if you look at your login screen on runescape is still recognizes you from your original address

[CheetahNub]

HEHE I GOTTA GET A NEW COMP :D

I could get the money back by macroing and irl trading the cash :D

[mark9510]

r u shure because it works for.me fine

[buck cakes]

i hate to break it to you, but vms are very cpu intensive. I run two on my crappy comp, with barely enough resources left to run scar on the host. If you have a good graphics card i would say 5 VMs is a reasonable expectation.

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

my laptop is 2.33ghz dual core, 2gigs of ran, 512 graphics, i'm more than well off enough to run a couple.

also mark are you sure its changing your ip login addresses? do you have a dynamic or static ip?

[mark9510]

i have a static ip maybe thats the problem

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

so i take it that program is not changing your login ip then? lol

[darkmikey]

I just want to reiterate that Vista + VM = Slow
On my dual core 1.66ghz & 1 GB ram Vista laptop It practically dies running a vm which is why I now have xp pro and 1.5gb ram

[TheGhostofChristmasPast]

that isn't a fast laptop tho... so thats also a reason why it is slow

[proresearch]

what vm you using I have VMware the newest version running windows xp in them. my main pc has 4 gb ram, an amd 64 x2 5600+ dual core processor with (2) 8800 GTX's in sli mode, benchmarked at 14,344 with 3dmark06, im running vista and i lag using 2 virtual machines in runescape, so how are you guys getting 10-12 on slower machines? do i need to run windows 98 instead or me? i was using 320 mb for each machine. vmware in my processes was using 1.8 gb ram and 56% cpu power.