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solarwind
10-27-2006, 01:00 AM
SCAR vs. iBot.

What is iBot compared to SCAR? I currently develop for SCAR.
YoHoJo
10-27-2006, 01:36 AM
I currently develop for SCAR.

ROFL ya right..
wel i-bot as far as i know is a java bot. they are more detectable but usauly faster/ you can run multiple of them.

overall the majority of the people belive scar is better because if a script is made properly its almost nor detabebla at all

i never used ibot much though cuz im not much into java bots.
other people will proably correct me
solarwind
10-27-2006, 01:58 AM
Why do you think that they are more detectable?

And what's up with "ROFL ya right.."?
senrath
10-27-2006, 02:06 AM
Well, Ibot isn't even finished right now. It is really rather pathetic, seeing as the scripts are really horrible right now. But that's only because of the limiting nature of the current development. Once it is done, it promises to be better than SCAR. Or at least thats what impsoft promises, anyway XD
YoHoJo
10-27-2006, 02:06 AM
dude scar is HELLA humanlike
i know peopel who have goten 90+ with all scar
java bot are just more terectable beucase i gues its harder to program humanlike mouse movements ect into java

what do you mean by "develop for scar"
solarwind
10-27-2006, 02:16 AM
dude scar is HELLA humanlike
i know peopel who have goten 90+ with all scar
java bot are just more terectable beucase i gues its harder to program humanlike mouse movements ect into java

what do you mean by "develop for scar"

I mean make scripts for SCAR (not make SCAR itself lol). Sorry for the confusion. So far, I am making J.E.S.S.I with much success, but it looks more appealing to develop J.E.S.S.I for iBot because I know so much C/C++ and Java is very similar. iBot looks way more promising than SCAR because of its speed and OCR stuff and its mouse functions. Hell, I can do other stuff on my computer and leave an auto running. With SCAR, it's hard to do that. But I have to agree, bitmap searching and DTMs are better in SCAR at the moment.
Bebe
10-27-2006, 02:22 AM
Ibot is a color recognition macro made in Java. It has most of the SCAR functions translated into Java, plus more.

I still prefer SCAR, because it is, in my opinion, more trustworthy.

By that I mean, I know I can write a script and can almost count on it 100% working for 7+ hours.
I haven't even seen Ibot in a while, so I can't say anything about it.
solarwind
10-27-2006, 02:25 AM
Ibot is a color recognition macro made in Java. It has most of the SCAR functions translated into Java, plus more.

I still prefer SCAR, because it is, in my opinion, more trustworthy.

By that I mean, I know I can write a script and can almost count on it 100% working for 7+ hours.
I haven't even seen Ibot in a while, so I can't say anything about it.

Thanks for your say. Do you think iBot can beat SCAR if more people make more and more functions?
Bebe
10-27-2006, 02:44 AM
Probably, since SCAR hasn't been updated in a year :p

The thing is, if SCAR can't do it, then we can alway create Plug-ins for SCAR. :)
solarwind
10-27-2006, 02:51 AM
Probably, since SCAR hasn't been updated in a year :p

The thing is, if SCAR can't do it, then we can alway create Plug-ins for SCAR. :)

Thanks for the info! The only thing that I don't like about scar is that it's very slow compared to Java (and Java is supposed to be slow ;) ). Also, I don't like the syntax, but that's not a problem. My real concern is detectability and ease of use. At the moment, iBot has really really really really really nice OCR functions and this makes autoing about 10x easier. That, coupled with it's speed, makes really nice autos. Also, I've ssen the mouse functions. They are really humanlike.

Guys, should I make an autominer script in Java for iBot to whet your appatite? Would you guys even care?

I need feedback please. I am really interested towards SRL, SCAR and iBot and I'd love to give back as much as I can to this community.

Another thing is, that everyone around me is a member and I'm not.






Edit: I have setup netbeans (a nice Java IDE) for use with iBot. I am currently fooling around with the scripts. However, iBot seems really promising, much more promising than SCAR at this point. (That's my opinion, if I'm wrong, please tell me why).

Also, all of the text searching functions are working 100% perfectly. (SRL functions are great, but not working 100% of the time). With this in mind, I can EASILY make autos. It is now much simpler to autodrop and stuff. Also, the current mouse movements look really nice and random.

Maybe we can get some more people over to iBot to help out.
Boreas
10-27-2006, 04:04 AM
Note: I don't know java and only know a little about iBot.

I am content with SCAR and SRL and like Bebe said, if I'm not content there are plugins.

If you think iBot is promising the by all means check it out and get a more informed opnion (than me lol), no one will stop you. However I think a lot of people will stick with SCAR (unless iBot changes a lot) and I really like this community so I will stick with it.

I also really like the idea the SCAR is like eyes seeing the screen and hands using the keyboard/mouse, and we fill in the brain. Because I have faith in this community's brain building potenial, I am not concerned with iBot's humanlike mouse procs and other scriptable things.

Also, I am not interested in the multiple window stuff, as that reminds me of pixel money and a certain mass bannage.

The only thing (out of the little that I know) that looks interesting is the focus stuff, but that's not worth switching for me.
solarwind
10-27-2006, 04:10 AM
Thanks.

One more quetsion:

Do you have any suggestions for me because I'm applying to become a member. (I already have, but I want to update it). Do you have any suggestions for me? How big/complicated does the code have to be?
YoHoJo
10-27-2006, 05:05 AM
well we jsut want a working script
we dont want a gay login or soemthing
at least a POWERminer or POWERchopper w/ anirandoms and antiban
i (as all srl member know) am very pciky about who i accept
its not too hard you just gota try and not be a noob =)
Just try making a script and psoting. You can always try again if you dont get in. =) Go for it
(you have also been talking about mouse procedures every1 would love to see those)
naike
10-30-2006, 11:05 PM
Little offtopic but cn you send a link to a forum of iBot or something?
Seems prettty intresting.. :)
I did google btw.
lardmaster
10-31-2006, 12:47 AM
www.impsoft.net

most people think that ibot is like aryan, but really, it is just like scar, without taking up the mouse or screen space, and with multiple screens. no java edits :) personally, i think kaitneiks (kill me for misspelling his name) will never come back, less and less people will use scar, because it will become outdated, and there wont be many people at SRL. i say at least a small section of SRL forums be for making SRL in ibot. i know that there is personal arguments over stuff like stolen scripts and whatever, but i think that ruler and genodemon arent trying to rip people off. probably some SRL developer is going to post saying "no, i will never work with them"
SRL+iBot= ultimate macroing machine.

if you have the program that is good, and a library that is good, you are unstoppable :)

also, perhaps, people want impsoft to be the only home of ibot scripts :P
solarwind
10-31-2006, 01:57 AM
Little offtopic but cn you send a link to a forum of iBot or something?
Seems prettty intresting.. :)
I did google btw.


http://www.impsoft.net/

look at the forums on that site.
Boreas
10-31-2006, 03:53 AM
It's still early days. There was SCAR before SRL. IBot isn't quite where SCAR was before SRL.
solarwind
10-31-2006, 04:16 AM
It's still early days. There was SCAR before SRL. IBot isn't quite where SCAR was before SRL.

Totally agree, but I too, believe that iBot will rule RuneScape. Lol, I was reading the jagex rules the other day. They pissed me off like never before. I'll auto till jagex drops.....
Taios
10-31-2006, 09:33 PM
ROFL ya right..
wel i-bot as far as i know is a java bot. they are more detectable but usauly faster/ you can run multiple of them.

overall the majority of the people belive scar is better because if a script is made properly its almost nor detabebla at all

i never used ibot much though cuz im not much into java bots.
other people will proably correct me

SCAR isnt a java bot as you would expect. It works as scar would. Alsom java bots like Aryan can be made UNDETECTABLE if the author puts in the right amount of effort and attension to traps, spends alot of time in the client identifying traps and other things.

Semaphore made an undetectable java bot system.
lardmaster
11-01-2006, 12:53 AM
SCAR isnt a java bot as you would expect.
edit ^^^ she meant ibot
solarwind
11-01-2006, 01:27 AM
edit ^^^ she meant ibot

Lol. Anyway, did you see the speed tests on iBot? They are blazing fast.
lardmaster
11-01-2006, 04:37 PM
i know! :)
ruler
11-02-2006, 03:42 AM
Willing to answer any questions on ibot!
I have written so many lines of code for pro its amazing.
I plan on applying some changes to the free version asap.

Here is a crappy video:
http://205.234.129.132/~impsoft/test/progress.htm
Hey321
11-02-2006, 11:22 AM
IBot > SCAR when there is enough scripts out and people understand how to use IBot.
DaWu
11-02-2006, 02:07 PM
Ibots mouse procedure is really humanlike, maeby SRL should start doing some work with them ( such as SRL for iBot) but still not kill scar, and work more on scar and scar scripts than Ibot.
lardmaster
11-02-2006, 05:00 PM
gaaaah! everyone say "ibot mouse is very humanlike" i believe both ibot and srl use benlands mouse procedure!
Wizzup?
11-02-2006, 05:21 PM
BenMouse is originally a SRL function, means SRL does use it.. but it aso belongs to SRL. ;)