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user666
04-09-2012, 12:24 AM
Does anyone exactly know how safe we are using SIMBA on our mains.. I'm wondering because it it loads through smart..

Thanks.

begginer
04-09-2012, 12:28 AM
Like 101%. It's open source bud.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:30 AM
How the hell does it being open source have anything to do with the safety of our accounts?

PatDuffy
04-09-2012, 12:31 AM
Like 101%. It's open source bud.

if only you understood how stupid that comment was....

We're safe because we act human-life, don't take our information directly through the client, and because we're still considerably a small community. We use colors, which change, meaning where we click etc. will change.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:33 AM
if only you understood how stupid that comment was....

We're safe because we act human-life, don't take our information directly through the client, and because we're still considerably a small community. We use colors, which change, meaning where we click etc. will change.

But can't jagex tell that we are clicking the same color over and over again?

begginer
04-09-2012, 12:33 AM
ah about botting. If you bot 18/7 it will probably get banned. I use weekends to bot like 10h/max

typestyle
04-09-2012, 12:34 AM
Colour ftw, I highly doubt anyone has been banned using colour lately. If anything, the injection bots/reflection are the first ones to recieve the ban hammer from the so called plan optimus which I'm starting to believe, will never come.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:37 AM
If Jagex was smart, they wouldn't bring optimus. More revenue.

PatDuffy
04-09-2012, 12:37 AM
But can't jagex tell that we are clicking the same color over and over again?

That's where tolerance comes in, so we're actually clicking the same shade of color everytime, like a human would :p We gather a bunch of colors, say red for a furnace, then we search for a color with tolerance which will result in most shades of the red for the furnace. Add in randomness of SRL's mouse functions and we actually click a different pixel everytime.

Abu
04-09-2012, 12:40 AM
But can't jagex tell that we are clicking the same color over and over again?

No and because you can add tolerance to colours, it doesn't always select the same colours. Also, sometimes colours change when objects are reloaded.


Like 101%. It's open source bud.
This made me lol irl! Hilarious!

On a serious note - being open source has nothing to with the safety of Simba in terms of getting caught botting. However, it does mean that no coding is hidden - so in terms of security and account stealing, it is safe.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:40 AM
Oh, very informative. Thanks.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:41 AM
What about the fact that it loads through SMART? Doesn't that make it less safe?

Olly
04-09-2012, 12:42 AM
Like 101%. It's open source bud.

Lol because things are open source you think its safe?.. regardless from what i hear smart is actually detectable.. but do they detect it? no.

cycrosism
04-09-2012, 12:51 AM
if only you understood how stupid that comment was....

Have you looked through the entire source code of simba to make sure it is safe? No? Then shut up.

PatDuffy
04-09-2012, 12:51 AM
What about the fact that it loads through SMART? Doesn't that make it less safe?

Yes and No.

We currently are fine using SMART, as it loads RS to look like (I believe) FireFox. If, in the future, Jagex starts specifically looking for the use of SMART we might encounter trouble, but the use of a client itself cannot condemn a player, as I have played legit using SMART before.

user666
04-09-2012, 12:51 AM
Have you looked through the entire source code of simba to make sure it is safe? No? Then shut up.

How is that relevant to anything?

What is the ban rate?

cycrosism
04-09-2012, 12:54 AM
How is that relevant to anything?

Just because a program is open source doesn't immediately make it safe to use.

PatDuffy
04-09-2012, 12:56 AM
How is that relevant to anything?

What is the ban rate?

I believe SRL's banrate is 3 in the last....~4 years and that was with REFLECTION.

I do not believe we have EVER had a ban that resulted from only the use of color.

cycrosism
04-09-2012, 12:58 AM
I've never had a ban with either reflection or colour. The only bans I have gotten were using RSbot and that was only because I botted for too long.

Olly
04-09-2012, 01:03 AM
Personally I ive never had an account banned and I try and bot as much as possible I aim for 24/7... I think its down to luck, nothing to do with how long you bot for.

Getdropped
04-09-2012, 01:36 AM
The safty of you bot is not based on simba its self if you are worried about being banned. The safty of getting banned in based then on the script writers like myself to make sure all the bots we make have good failsafes and anti ban. Also clicking the same color can be avoided by adding random x,y s when you have a mouse click. I trust my accounts with everything that I make if I use another persons bot I always look through it and watch it play for a good amount of time so I can see exactly how well it works. So I would not worry about simba being unsafe, and ban rates are the scripters deal, and the people that blindly run them.