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sickle
07-12-2012, 03:09 AM
Specifically regarding powerbot and rarebot.

Looked through their forum and people there seemed to feel pretty safe. Just like here I encountered many who said they use it for months/years/suiciding without any catch. What are your experiences/thoughts?

EDIT: also I am wondering the recent 'freedom' Jagex has allowed applies to these too. I have not heard of a single ban for months, and now I understand that the aim is more to prevent bots from happening than targeting individuals. So given this, is injection bot as safe as Simba?

Based Lord
07-12-2012, 03:10 AM
You will never find a true ban rate to be honest, there are many factors that go into getting banned. I have used injection bots before but I will never again :)

grats
07-12-2012, 03:12 AM
given enough time? 100%, same as every bot

sickle
07-12-2012, 03:17 AM
given enough time? 100%, same as every bot

Surely you are not counting Simba in your statement?

grats
07-12-2012, 03:19 AM
Surely you are not counting Simba in your statement?

1. simba isn't a bot
2. given an infinite amount of time a real player would probably get banned for botting

YoHoJo
07-12-2012, 03:19 AM
Go to their websites and ask there, you will get much better answered since most of the people at those forums actually use them.

Ban rates all really depend on way to many factors too, it's really up to how much you auto, how safe the bot is, how safe the script is, if you get reported, etc etc etc

sickle
07-12-2012, 03:23 AM
Go to their websites and ask there, you will get much better answered since most of the people at those forums actually use them.

Ban rates all really depend on way to many factors too, it's really up to how much you auto, how safe the bot is, how safe the script is, if you get reported, etc etc etc

Yes I have done that with inconsistent answers. The sense I got was that nobody has experienced any problem in the recent months (although the ban rate was palpable in the past, and few scripts are still very risky).

I guess I'm just looking for something else to try while the good people here figure out the SRL issue. I really could just chill out from RS and get some fresh air, but... lol.

grats
07-12-2012, 03:26 AM
Go to their websites and ask there, you will get much better answered since most of the people at those forums actually use them.

Ban rates all really depend on way to many factors too, it's really up to how much you auto, how safe the bot is, how safe the script is, if you get reported, etc etc etc

Exactly.. botting 24/7 for a month will get you banned probably no matter what, even if you were a human

Rincewind
07-12-2012, 04:34 AM
I heard bad things about Rarebot...

Nebula
07-12-2012, 04:36 AM
Each hour there is a 3.29% chance of being banned when using Injection bots.

quazzymodem
07-12-2012, 04:45 AM
Exactly.. botting 24/7 for a month will get you banned probably no matter what, even if you were a human

I was going to make a serious post...but after trying to comprehend your grasp of the English language and finally figuring out that you meant playing 24/7 and that you weren't implying that everyone playing is no from the human genome, I forgot what I was going to say.

Benny
07-12-2012, 05:20 AM
i dunno it depends man ha should be okay?

grats
07-12-2012, 05:33 AM
I was going to make a serious post...but after trying to comprehend your grasp of the English language and finally figuring out that you meant playing 24/7 and that you weren't implying that everyone playing is no from the human genome, I forgot what I was going to say.

Don't try so hard, it'll make it easier for you to comprehend simple text in the future.

Vinyl Scratch
07-12-2012, 07:57 AM
^ lol

Ban rate can't really be calculated, because Jagex did their "Bot nuke" and bots are now more advanced, so in given time, we might be able to calculate it.. ish. But not now, there's a new "Nuke" coming up.. blah blah.. no new news..

LemonHaze
07-12-2012, 08:17 AM
injection is detectable, but so is SMART, I've been banned 1 time while using powerbot and as far as I know that was caused by multiple failed randoms, and I've got resset once too at draynor willows as f2p which is actually asking for a ban.
Use good scripts, check your bot regulary and don't bot too much, then you should be fine.
E: Nebula, that's just bs dude :p

litoris
07-12-2012, 10:44 AM
100%

321
07-12-2012, 12:32 PM
somewhere on powerbot they have a list of approximate ban rates based on people actually being banned.


surprisingly, one of the highest ban rates is for slayer, also, combat is fairly high.
you want to stay away from gold farming as the ban rate is very high.


skills such as dungeoneering have a very low ban rate around 4 percent.
i'll have a look around and see if i can find these rates for you :)

edit: here you go

List of Skills
agility 0% (0/8)
combat 27% (25/92)
construction 25% (1/4)
cooking 4% (1/26)
crafting 17% (1/6)
dungeoneering 6% (4/64)
farming 0% (0/1)
fishing 15% (7/48)
firemaking 0% (0/13)
fletching 0% (0/22)
herblore 20% (1/5)
hunter 35% (7/20)
mage 13% (5/39)
mining 25% (17/68)
prayer 0% (0/10)
runecrafting 11% (3,27)
summoning 0% (0/1)
smithing 9% (1/11)
slayer 50% (1/2)
thieving 20% (3/15)
woodcutting 27% (27/99)
Ranged 42% (10,24)
Money making 54% (7,13)

Minigames
pest control 17% (1,6)
rune suduku 100% (2,2)
soul wars 27% (3,11)
sorcerer's garden 44% (4,9)

sickle
07-12-2012, 03:58 PM
somewhere on powerbot they have a list of approximate ban rates based on people actually being banned.


surprisingly, one of the highest ban rates is for slayer, also, combat is fairly high.
you want to stay away from gold farming as the ban rate is very high.


skills such as dungeoneering have a very low ban rate around 4 percent.
i'll have a look around and see if i can find these rates for you :)

edit: here you go

List of Skills
agility 0% (0/8)
combat 27% (25/92)
construction 25% (1/4)
cooking 4% (1/26)
crafting 17% (1/6)
dungeoneering 6% (4/64)
farming 0% (0/1)
fishing 15% (7/48)
firemaking 0% (0/13)
fletching 0% (0/22)
herblore 20% (1/5)
hunter 35% (7/20)
mage 13% (5/39)
mining 25% (17/68)
prayer 0% (0/10)
runecrafting 11% (3,27)
summoning 0% (0/1)
smithing 9% (1/11)
slayer 50% (1/2)
thieving 20% (3/15)
woodcutting 27% (27/99)
Ranged 42% (10,24)
Money making 54% (7,13)

Minigames
pest control 17% (1,6)
rune suduku 100% (2,2)
soul wars 27% (3,11)
sorcerer's garden 44% (4,9)

Thank you for the information. I actually found this too, and this was pre-nuke last year. I was wondering if there has been any new data. :)

LemonHaze
07-12-2012, 04:16 PM
the list above is not accurate as people who did get banned are more likely to post as people who haven't, correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm not sure how the list works.

[XoL]
07-12-2012, 04:42 PM
Well the fact that it is noticeable by Jagex might mean something but then again prior to Simba scripting, I have used Injection/Reflection and haven't been banned on accounts I cared about.

321
07-12-2012, 05:01 PM
the list above is not accurate as people who did get banned are more likely to post as people who haven't, correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm not sure how the list works.

see at the end as it says like "1/8" that means 8 accounts where tested for a set period doing this skill and 1 out of the 8 accounts where banned.

LemonHaze
07-12-2012, 05:10 PM
see at the end as it says like "1/8" that means 8 accounts where tested for a set period doing this skill and 1 out of the 8 accounts where banned.

oh, oke, thank you :)

Caotom
07-12-2012, 05:28 PM
The issue with injection bots will come into play far more if Jagex does finally bring out this second bot nuke. During the last one many injection bot users were banned due to Jagex managing to track the users and also being handed IPs from users when they sued several bots.
Injection bots will usually have a higher ban rate than colour despite being more accurate, because humans are not more accurate, they work the same way simba does...
I personally stay away from injection bots but I have heard many good and bad reports about them so I have a mixed opinion. If you bot smart (ie. not 24/7) and you don't bot though the bot nuke and Jagex is not able to track your injection usage the ban rate is very low. In recent times the ban rate for members, non-goldfarming bots has been exceptionally low, I will not draw any conclusions but you can read into that how you wish.

~Caotom

The Killer
07-12-2012, 05:52 PM
Exactly.. botting 24/7 for a month will get you banned probably no matter what, even if you were a human
so aliens are at risk too?? ;)

oneshadow
07-12-2012, 08:08 PM
rarebot bans more than powerbot. Epicbot i dont know anyone who was banned. Ive used all 3 alot.

Trent!
07-12-2012, 10:13 PM
I've botted with reflection/injection for about 2500 hours, and I've been banned many times. 9 bans from goldfarming, 2 bans from powerbot, I didn't even reach 70 mining, or 80 woodcutting. Had bans with RSBuddy training thieving, and some of the goldfarming accounts were Nexus, and some were RSBuddy.

sickle
07-13-2012, 03:56 AM
I've botted with reflection/injection for about 2500 hours, and I've been banned many times. 9 bans from goldfarming, 2 bans from powerbot, I didn't even reach 70 mining, or 80 woodcutting. Had bans with RSBuddy training thieving, and some of the goldfarming accounts were Nexus, and some were RSBuddy.

When were your most recent bans?

chriscosta1987
07-13-2012, 04:55 AM
Only bans i've had was when I was being stupid and botting 15+ accounts 24/7 with rsbuddy. Even then it amazed me how little the bans were. Every 3 or so days id lose an account. Take two secs to create another and I was off going again. That was back around October or so before the bot nuke.

Trent!
07-13-2012, 05:03 AM
When were your most recent bans?

I haven't used any injection bots since bot nuke, and since then I've been sticking strictly with RiD, so my last ban would have been... lemme think... probably the summer/fall of 2011?

tulpiukas
08-09-2012, 05:17 AM
Jagex never detects bots, they only review those who were reported.