Virtual Box

[Master BAW]

Hi,

Can someone help me with virtual box?
I've just installed windows XP 32bit on a virtual box, with 4GB memory (I got 16GB RAM, so no problem) and 50GB space.
Then I installed all the programs I needed to run a bot with simba, and after some time it worked.
The problem now is that Java only uses 150-300MB memory of the 4GB I have, but still it uses 70-90% CPU.....

How come?
What's the best way to make it use less CPU (and more RAM?)

This is the first time I use virtual box, so I hope someone can help me.

Screenshot: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1614/9rramuse.png


Master BAW

[Vinyl Scratch]

First off, I'd suggest using Linux, (Talk to Greg, he's the man on that stuff.)
Anyway, XP is fine.

RAM is Random Access Memory, and it moves all of the stuff going through it to the CPU. The CPU is what sends the information on to your drivers and whatnot. Mind telling me what processor(s) you have?

[print]

i dont like virtual box it takes forever to install

[Vinyl Scratch]

Yeah, but mine's about functionality, I prefer VMWare. But I've used both, and both are good in there own ways. But VMWare is better.

[grats]

No, ram doesn't work that way.. a processor does all the processing, ram caches it.. not sure how to say so you can get it..

a piece of paper holds X amount of information, the pencil is constantly working to put more info on or change the info on the paper.. getting more paper wouldn't increase the pencils ability


java / runescape
use about 300k memory, I believe that's maximum default for a java app.. using more won't really do anything



i dont like virtual box it takes forever to install

virtual box takes the same speed, it's faster with everything except video acceleration

[demoniste]

If you have a multicore cpu, you can give access to more cores to your virtual box. Sometimes vbox give only 1 core by default.

[Master BAW]

I can only use one processor per virtual box, or else I needed to install virtual hardware or something and I don't know what that is...

I have a big computer with good stuff in it and with the intel core i7 3.5GHz (8 processors)

I have to go now, thanks for the explanations, I will reply more later :):)

[Leonardo Da Vinci]

I just made a virtual box today with an old windows XP disk I had laying around.
Sorry I can't help you though... But why use a VB for simba?

[grats]

If you have a multicore cpu, you can give access to more cores to your virtual box. Sometimes vbox give only 1 core by default.

by default, it always gives 1 core.


I can only use one processor per virtual box, or else I needed to install virtual hardware or something and I don't know what that is...

I have a big computer with good stuff in it and with the intel core i7 3.5GHz (8 processors)

I have to go now, thanks for the explanations, I will reply more later :):)

No? enable IO APIC and you can put as many cores as you want
http://i.imgur.com/StegG.jpg

your cpu has 8 threads, 4 cores.. btw

[Master BAW]

I just made a virtual box today with an old windows XP disk I had laying around.
Sorry I can't help you though... But why use a VB for simba?
Because I want to run about 10-12 bots, but I don't want to run them all on the same IP adress... So I found a program called PrivateTunnel which gives you a new IP adress. My Idea was to run 2 virtual boxes with both 4 bots on them, and 2, 3 or 4 bots on the normal windows. This because PrivateTunnel sends all your internet to that other IP so then I have 3 different IP's so I can't get IP banned...

Understand? :)
P.S. If anyone has a better solution tell me :)


by default, it always gives 1 core.


No? enable IO APIC and you can put as many cores as you want
http://i.imgur.com/StegG.jpg

your cpu has 8 threads, 4 cores.. btw
I tried that but I get an error when starting the VM....

[Leonardo Da Vinci]

Because I want to run about 10-12 bots, but I don't want to run them all on the same IP adress... So I found a program called PrivateTunnel which gives you a new IP adress. My Idea was to run 2 virtual boxes with both 4 bots on them, and 2, 3 or 4 bots on the normal windows. This because PrivateTunnel sends all your internet to that other IP so then I have 3 different IP's so I can't get IP banned...

Well... damn, nice plan!

[Master BAW]

Well... damn, nice plan!

Thanks :D The problem now is that I get a lot of lag on my VBox's...
But theoretically my computer should easily be able to run so many (12+) runescape bots... All I need is the right settings....

[Leonardo Da Vinci]

Thanks :D The problem now is that I get a lot of lag on my VBox's...
But theoretically my computer should easily be able to run so many (12+) runescape bots... All I need is the right settings....

That sucks, but with gratz on the case, you'll have the problem under control in no time!
You'll have to keep the thread updated with your progress, it would be awesome to see how this turns out!

[grats]

The problem is because you're using windows.. if you get an error after that.

I'd just run them all in 1 vm, as jagex doesn't care about IP addresses.. and if you want to keep a vm separate from your main machine I would do something like:

http://i.imgur.com/koESl.jpg

or you can use the linux built in VPN connection, but your windows is your problem.. I believe the early home editions were only capable of like 1 core & 2GB of ram in windows.. they put stupid limits in the different versions.. for example now a lot of the versions are capped at like 16GB of ram, you have to get the enterprise version to have more or something like that, I don't really know all the details because windows sucks, and I don't care.

[Master BAW]

The problem is because you're using windows.. if you get an error after that.

I'd just run them all in 1 vm, as jagex doesn't care about IP addresses.. and if you want to keep a vm separate from your main machine I would do something like:

http://i.imgur.com/koESl.jpg

or you can use the linux built in VPN connection, but your windows is your problem.. I believe the early home editions were only capable of like 1 core & 2GB of ram in windows.. they put stupid limits in the different versions.. for example now a lot of the versions are capped at like 16GB of ram, you have to get the enterprise version to have more or something like that, I don't really know all the details because windows sucks, and I don't care.

Thanks! I'll try linux then :) Which linux? Mint? Ubuntu?

I think it's still better to run them on different IP's because else it's very easy to detect for them IF they would use it. But I'll see...

One more question I think may be important. My computer is 64 bit. Should I install the 64 bit or 32 bit version of linux, or doesn't it really matter (because runescapes java is 32bits anyway)

[Trent!]

Make it look like this:

http://puu.sh/14j0G
http://puu.sh/14j1q <-- Give it 2-3 processors, depending on how it runs on each one. Also know that ANY time you change your processor settings or amount of processors you have to completely reinstall the OS or else it won't register.
http://puu.sh/14j3c
http://puu.sh/14j3K
http://puu.sh/14j4k

I know of a website that has a full Virtualbox VM guide, but it's on a different bot site and I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link.

[Vinyl Scratch]

^ +Rep, most helpful post.


I know of a website that has a full Virtualbox VM guide, but it's on a different bot site and I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link.

You should, it's just posting a guide on VMs and stuff. Related, and not advertising the bot on the site, so It shouldn't matter.

I think I know what VM tut you're talking about. Is it on RiD?

[Master BAW]

Make it look like this:

http://puu.sh/14j0G
http://puu.sh/14j1q <-- Give it 2-3 processors, depending on how it runs on each one. Also know that ANY time you change your processor settings or amount of processors you have to completely reinstall the OS or else it won't register.
http://puu.sh/14j3c
http://puu.sh/14j3K
http://puu.sh/14j4k

I know of a website that has a full Virtualbox VM guide, but it's on a different bot site and I don't know if I'm allowed to post the link.

thanks, and which OS should I install?
and I think you can post the link it's not illegal to post to other forum threads if you don't have the intention of making advertising or something, at least, I suppose

[Solar]

^ +Rep, most helpful post.



You should, it's just posting a guide on VMs and stuff. Related, and not advertising the bot on the site, so It shouldn't matter.

I think I know what VM tut you're talking about. Is it on RiD?

It is on RiD yeah.

There is also a version of XP that you can download from a link in the tutorial.

[Vinyl Scratch]

Then you should be able to post it, just don't go about saying "RiD's Best Bot"

[cause]

If you are going to use Linux, remember to install java for windows via WINE, instead of just java for linux :).