You will save the economy..
You will prevent the same mistakes from happening again..
You will be the hero of time ....
But most importantly...
You will get to see these Reddit circlejerk kids rage to the max
http://i.imgur.com/6EwKpas.png
You will save the economy..
You will prevent the same mistakes from happening again..
You will be the hero of time ....
But most importantly...
You will get to see these Reddit circlejerk kids rage to the max
http://i.imgur.com/6EwKpas.png
ge = more bots too.
That for sure. It will ruin the game to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olly
Did you vote 'no'?
Tired of selling supplies for HOURS, voted yes on multipe accounts <3
I dont play OSR so I can't vote.... nor do I see my vote making a impact even if i could.
Did you read their fallback option? It would offer instant trading through the trading post.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoodz
still too slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilCabbage
I think it's better to have the Trading Posts updated as they're discussing doing should the Grand Exchange not pass. With the newer updates you can directly purchase items (in any quanities) from someone's offer on the Trading Post. Also this way item prices will not be determined as if the Grand Exchange were reintroduced.
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This is not the right attitude :cQuote:
Originally Posted by Olly
If a few thousand people feel the same way (I'm sure they do) you'd all miss out!
Why do people hate the GE though? Is it just because it tells you the prices?
I prefer the trading post method! Much easier to merch in my opinion.
I loved the GE one of the best updates to RS, tho it doesn't seem very 'Old school'. The trading post option that they have (that Flight posted) seems pretty neat though.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_R
ps: I can't even vote.. I'm like a lvl 6 :p
GE release date 26 November 2007, and oldschool is based on august 2007. I should say it's oldschool :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Olly
no wai? That's crazy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier
Guessing you feel old now ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Olly
"Old school" Rs really shouldn't be considered "Old school" anymore tbh.. It is becoming Rs3 without the new combat stuff.
The GE didn't ruin the economy lol, it allowed players to efficiently trade items at their true value (not counting new items) without having to deal with merchers. The only issue with the GE was merching clans could buy out a item to make it rise which can be mostly stopped by having item amount limits.
I shouldn't have to spend a day selling stuff I get from slayer. Do you know how long it takes to sell items? And TBH who cares if people can't merch, merchers are annoying anyway. They are just middle man that sit somewhere for hours with a auto typer buying items way under price and then selling them obnoxiously high.
G.E released in 2007 elf. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by elfyyy
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Originally Posted by Robert
It actually did ruin it. When GE came out, items were no longer rare. They were sold in such large abundances that everyone had everything.. I could put a price, and simply wait until I get it. It took no time to sell. Time is money applies here.. While waiting on your item to sell on GE, you're gaining money doing something else (maybe even getting another of the same item to flood the market with)..
However, if you take the time to sell the item, you aren't gaining money while waiting on buyers.. This means that you have an adjusted price to compensate for the selling time of said item. This is to make up for the loss or extra time that you could have used to make more money.. It's how RS works.
Without GE, a whip used to be 3.5m long ago.
GE came out, a whip became 1.5m and dropped below that.
Time is money. People taking "time" to sell things keep the cost up. GE is like the walmart of RS.
After the date that "Old school" Rs was set at, so it shouldn't be added ofc.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoodz
I'd say it's closer to the eBay of Runescape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
That means all the slayer updates, corp, and gwds should not of been added :PQuote:
Originally Posted by elfyyy
The GE is hardly the reason whip crashed though. When the ge came out whip stayed at a constant 1.3-1.5m (also god swords came out too) for over a year until pvp stats came out inflated the price of all items. It didn't crash until pvp stats where removed and by that time dungeoneering had come out and whips became more obsolete (also slayer became so much faster with the release of the slayer helm, extremes, turmoil, and chaotics)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
Yeah, hence my original comment that it is no longer "Old School."Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier
I think people are forgetting a long with the grand exchange we get lootshare.. which is awesome
Why? Gold being added into the game instead of value through items is terrible for the economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
lootshare wont destroy the economy... there is already coming 100's of millions coming in game by alching BECAUSE everybody just alch their loot since the time it cost to sell it, is simply not worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilCabbage
How long is this poll open? Could make a script to train all your bots' skills so that it could vote in the poll.
You'd have to buy them membership too I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turpinator
Which was exactly my point.. Before GE (before godwords), it was 3.5m - 3.7m. After GE came out it dropped to 1.5. After godswords came out, it dropped to ~300k. Godswords causing it to drop was natural though. GE however, was not.. GE causes crashes as I explained earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Time = Money. Everyone in RS things a single way when it comes to selling and buying items. They want to buy cheap, sell expensive. They want to compensate for lost time during selling. If that selling time is over a certain threshold, they sometimes give up and sell for a little lower. But all in all, everyone puts a price on the item that is:
a. Calculated by length of time it took to get (rarity).
b. Adding on a tax for the time it takes to sell.
c. Adding on a tax for whether or not it's useful.
With GE, there's no time for selling or rarity. The market is flooded and things sell instantly. While it sells, I can go get another, and another, and another.. in the time that my one item sells. This introduces items into the game FASTER. The problem is that this applies to everyone.
When you buy an item IRL, the cost of production + shipment + advertising + manufacturing time comes into play. You want it instantly, you pay more (you're paying for time here).
However, in RS, everyone can get the item instantly with no extra cost. GE doesn't tax you. The item isn't manufactured. It isn't shipped. It's magically dropped out of thin air and instantly goes on the market for sale. Everyone can all multi-task while waiting on it to buy/sell.. Everyone sees a market price and tries to put their's a little lower so it sells faster. This also takes into account the abundance of the item.
Essentially, GE floods the economy with the items and drives the cost down. The harder someone is to get, the more it is usually worth.
mmh? i remember buying my first whip for 4m in G.E (around pvp era)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
Maybe it was the removal of free trade 1 month after the GE was released that caused it to crash.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoodz
This is the first real downside I've come across; however, I'm not so sure that the effect is that intense in practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandon
A casual player like me won't mind a walmart for RS at all :P That being said, unless they offer an option to not have to start from scratch, I highly doubt having the GE or any other update other than shutting down rs3 would make me switch (especially with how much harder it is to train in osrs anyway, assuming xp rates are similar to like 09-11 era)
what? since when does lootshare generate goldQuote:
Originally Posted by EvilCabbage
He may be meaning coinshare which gives you the coins and puts the item on the GE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Well I was talking about lootshare, which is needed IMO, but can't really be added without the GE. Unless you wantQuote:
Originally Posted by J_R
a) the loot to go to a random person in the cc. This is just ghetto and useless
b) base LSP off the high alchemy/shop value of a item. But some items have low alch values compared to their street price and other items street price. For example a zerker ring alchs for 6k and a dragon ax alchs for 33k, a zerker ring is 3.6m and a dragon hatchet is 350k. The ring alchs for 1/5 the price but is worth 10x more
Honestly couldn't care either way at this point. OSRS had passed the point of no-return long before today, and it really can't be damned more than it already is by the addition of a GE.
Trading post, NMZ, GWD, Slayer rework, Corporeal beast, innumerable pointless custom items - all should not have been added. OSRS is nothing more than a sanctioned private server. It's RS3 with older graphics & combat system.
I'd more or less welcome any update that comes to OSRS - a GE will only help botters, and the game is already ruined, why should I care?
Honestly, I don't even play OSRS, but every time I happen across a devblog or hear mention of a new update, I just shake my head in bewilderment and move on.
It's pointless to fight it. The fapping, drooling twelvies that make up the RS community will vote "Yes" on any polls they can lay their grubby hands on.
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^Yeah, just forget it. The poll closes in six days, and that question has even less opposition than some of the others on the page...
You only have the community to blame for these updates. The most popular are polled and if the mass vote it in, it gets put in. Yeah not everyone agrees with this but the OSRS team does keep loyal to the community, so kudos to them. Regardless of what the updates are, Oldschool RS does need updates to attract new players, not just retain an existing player base. This is their goal after all and as far as I can tell this is the best way to do it: have new content suggested (to attract new players) and have existing players vote it in (keep current OSRS-players happy).Quote:
Originally Posted by KeepBotting
I don't agree with all of these updates either, but can you blame their logic? I'd do the same in their position...
At this rate it will just turn into RS3 but with crappy graphics :p
In all honesty, one of the reasons why I don't even want to open OSR is because it's too time consuming to gather resources. I think this may attract more players (but it will also make a bunch of people quit).
One argument I've been seeing a lot (not here, on less bot oriented sites) is that this will allow bots to be able to mass-sell supplies and that if the GE is introduced it will lead to piles of bots. The issue with this is that OSR is already overrun with bots so the trade doesn't appear to be deterring them.
This. Though, I really would't let kids who have no clue vote. Or worse, kids who vote because their internet hero Sparc Mac said so despite him not giving a single reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flight