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I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother...Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartzkid
-Barack Obama, March 18, 2008
By April 30, he had disowned and denounced Wright and his church.
Yeah, He was dragging Obama down, he looked really angry at the speech.
@Negaal I presume that was the ad in which John McCain rated Obama as the 'Biggest Celebrity'. And Paris Hilton responded, not sure about Britney Spears though :/
My dad dreamt that he killed Barrack Obama.
He says he thinks he did it with a gun, in the bathroom. He went into the bathroom with Obama alive, and walked out with him dead. He says he thought he was going to be in big trouble, but it turned out, no one cared.
I figured it was relevant to this thread. Reason being: You can't vote for a guy who has a bullet in his brain.
Edit: Well, I guess you could, but it doesn't do much good.
Meh since you guys are being negative to Obama then eh why not?Quote:
John McCain was a well known idiot at school. He had the lowest scores on all of his exams. Think he is a great war hero? Think again. He came at 5th from bottom of his class, flew down 3 planes in training, and there wasn't even one single shot. His plane was also shot down on his first war flight. The only reason why he couldn't be touched was because his father was admiral.
Look at this guy. He is age 71. So he will be 72 on the 29th of august. He will be 76 once he gets out of office then. Even his speeches are quite bad. So now tell me, would you want this guy, or Barack Obama
(Gets ready to be chewed)
How do you know that is fact, and not just written by an Obama lover?
Nah, it was on cnn.Quote:
Originally Posted by bullzeye95
Since when has CNN not spun things? I'll look into it for myself o_0Quote:
Originally Posted by kingarabian
Edit: He did crash planes during his training but he had flown over 20 missions, he would not accept early release unless the POW's before him were released as well...
Lol? Obama is falling apart at the seams. I guarantee he won't win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus
We don't want any damned history. We want our economy back to normal, the wars to stop in foreign countries and a good president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Runescape Pro
ED: Why are some of you people basing your votes on race?
Lol. Because it's actually true?Quote:
Originally Posted by bullzeye95
Im going to copy a post I made a while ago at another forum. If there is anything that doesn't fit this forum (reference to users from the debate) just ignore them. I am too lazy to type this up again.
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Obama will absolutely send our country to hell. He is an empty suit with an absurd background and absurd policies.
First, taxes.
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Obama wants to tax the hell out of business. Primarily because in his shallow opinion, they "don't deserve it". These tax increases for business are supposed to help the economy. This just in The American economy is centralized by business! Taxing business will not save the average American any money, no matter how many tax cuts you make for them. Increased taxes for business = less jobs and higher prices. Unless you never buy anything from any store or business, this plan will screw you over. 1% of Americans pay for 40% of taxes. 30% pay 70% of all taxes. The lower 30th percentile pay for 0% of all taxes, and subsequently reap the benefits of them.
I'm all for helping those who are in a tough financial situation. They need enough to get them going again, not life long welfare were there is no need or reward for work. If you punish profit and reward laziness we would end up like Cuba and our country will go to a communistic hell. There will be no innovation or desire to better any business in seek of profit if it will be taxed away for the unemployed. The economy will come to a stand still. Jobs will be cut, and more and more will rely on welfare and govt services which will be funded by an increasingly shrinking economy.
Obamas plan will not just be tax cuts, but a redistribution of wealth. When everyone is pushed to be equal in profit there is no incentive for work. Hard work, risk, and business smarts should be rewarded with THEIR profits, not taxes which will send THEIR profits to others.
The USA was founded liberty and a free market, not socialistic government restriction. People left Europe because too much government had a stranglehold on the people. Increased govt is a bad thing.
Obamas spending with our money will be through the roof on useless programs designed to redistribute wealth. Those who do not know his record will say he is for low taxes and low spending, while saying Palin wants to increase spending. Obamas record shows that 18% of the time he voted for lower spending vs higher spending, as opposed to Palin who record shows 88% of the time for lower spending.
Vote for Obama if you would like less jobs and higher prices, in the name of taking money from those who run the economy.
Energy.
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This issue makes me wonder how anyone can vote for him. We cannot fix the energy false energy crisis by filling our damn tires and spending billions of OUR dollars on inefficient windmills. This energy in the name of going green is absolutely pointless because gorebal warming showed itself to be a ruse, where the earth is cooling the ice age warming ice age crew is pushing its next false cause.
The united states has MORE un-drilled oil than the middle east! We have enough to pay of our debts and maintain a steady price for an estimated 75 years. 75 years is plenty of time for new innovations for energy productions to become more affordable, practical, and cheap. We need to let the market and private investors decide when to switch to alternative energies, not the government. The switch to alternative energy sources should switch when it becomes more profitable and affordable to use through innovation and necessity; not imposed necessity at a time when they are costly and inefficient; not when our current energy possibilities are being blocked by greenists who think that driller will somehow kill the spotted owl.
Drilling our own oil will not only help the people and the economy, it will help national security. Why give billions to nations that want nothing more than for us to end our way of life? Middle eastern nations who we are paying for oil use that money to fund anti-american organizations and many of which are terrorist organizations.
Nuclear energy is also highly important in the process of gaining energy independence. Its extremely efficient, clean, safe, and is even renewable. Nuclear waste can be reused as fuel. I fail to see why so many liberals in America are so opposed to it. The most liberal nations like France and Sweden have no oil, but are exporters of energy. Why? They are 75% nuclear.
Experience/Background/Morality
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Where can I even start on this one? Ayers? Wright? Drugs? Experience? Slum lords? Speaking/Decision making?
Obama in his early years was a practicing muslim and was raised in a muslim family. He later moved towards christianity. For 20 years he avidly attended a church lead by anti american preachers. People like rev Warren Wright would preach america as being comparable to the devil. He would say "Not God bless America, God damn America". For 20 years Wright was Baracks mentor, preacher and friend. Only until he realized that Wright was a potential political liability he made the sudden switch from supporting him to opposing him, fulfilling his job as nothing but a crowd pleaser. We've got a true patriot on our hands...
Obama also served on Woods Fund board befriending the communistic terrorist Bill Ayers. Bill Ayers is responsible for bombings on the Capitol, The Pentagon, and NYC Police headquarters in the early 70s. Ayers did fund raising for Obamas state senate campaign, and appeared on many education panels with him. I fail to see how Obama has been able to avoid questions with his connection with the terrorist throughout his campaign. Possibly because any question is never aired by liberal bias media?
"The Anointed One" also has a shabby history with slum lords. Tony Rezko has had a long relationship with Obama. Rezko provided Obama with donations at important points in all of his elections from community activist to presidential candidate. He has received over $200,000 in donations from Rezko. Barack used his connection with Rezko to get a 1.6 million dollar mansion far below the price of what anyone else could get it for.
Obamas lack of experience always seemed to be underplayed or ignored. He has never pushed one piece of major legislature in his years (2) in the US Senate. Over 100 times he has voted "Present" as a state and US. Certainly pushing for change as a senator... Obama has be able to write 2 memoirs and no pieces of legislature. Its hard to post much more for this part, seeing as there isn't much more. His self proclaimed executive experience he says comes from running a campaign. Executive experience doesn't come from running a campaign with people who would like nothing more than to kiss your ass.
Obama also fails to speak when put on the spot about any complicated issue. Watch the warren forum where he is asked the simple question of when is a human considered alive enough to get human rights. He stalled, threw in filler words and then proceeded to say an answer "was above his paygrade". It however was not above his paygrade when he voted against the born alive protection act 6 times, which would require medical attention to be given to babies who survived failed abortions (The act does not impede on Rowe vs Wade as Obama claimed it did as an excuse, which changed from "accidental voting the wrong way"). The born alive act does not impede on abortion, and cannot be compared to it. If the child is born and surviving on its own, it should no longer be an issue of abortion and inconvenience. Denying the infant medical attention is cruel on every level of morality.
When talking at a hometown convention, his teleprompter went out and he choked. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU)
Being able to speak with power and confidence is nothing special if you cannot speak at all when you have to think for yourself or answer a tough question. Image if he were president and had to make a decision which would affect the lives of millions. A president doesn't get a teleprompter to follow him around all day. He is an empty suit. We have already seen how bad things could be if he had to make a hard decision. It took him 3 tries to get things right with the Georgia issue, while McCain was spot on the first time. He has nothing up top in his head except the ability to spew the words hope and change.
He has also shown himself to be a hypocritical crowd pleaser, along with Biden. Obama has always had a history of being for gay marriage, yet when faced with an anti-gay-marriage crowd he claims he believes that it is a sacred thing between a man and a woman. He says hes the "keeper of his brother", yet his brother lives in Nairobi on $12 a year, with no help from Obama. Before the vp pick, Biden would continually denounce Obama and say that he would never accept a VP pick by Obama. Biden, I ask you, what ever happened to the denouncements and denial of the VP pick? Biden continually bashes Bush for our oil dependence on other nations, even though Bush pushes to drill our own oil. Meanwhile Biden votes against all drilling, voting against drilling in ANWR in 98, saying it was because we wouldn't get the oil for 10 years. Hey Biden, Its 10 years later... we could sure be using that oil. How can one blame someone for oil dependence when they themselves vote against drilling.
I'm getting sick and tired of biased liberal crap. They don't look at policy, they don't look at record, they don't use common sense. They spew "fox news" drone at anyone who points out a fact that wasn't shown on their precious NBC or CNN because it could hurt the possibility of the "Anointed One's" changes of winning.
^ Amazing post, i really dont think i have anything to add lawl, you all= pwnd XD
ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by sirlaughsalot
A lot of people don't like me on debate forums because I normally kill debates...
:)
well from what i hear McCain (or however you spell it) is stupid but a true American, and Obama is VERY smart, but also cunning and sly(like a fox.). i think that Obama is going to win, but i have no preferance one way of the other. :o
You heard this from what, CNN?Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerswims
Wow, i love it, no real backing just "what i heard" from someone how isnt an american...Quote:
Originally Posted by boomerswims
I love when people attempt to make a statement about someone's intelligence (at the age of 7?), without being able spell 10% of their words correctly. (I'm being slightly hyperbolic).
yes Obama is vury vury vury superdest uper smart!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58
he learned to me that their ares 57 states!