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I don't believe that being gay is wrong because of my religion. I believe it is biologically wrong! It is wrong because it hurts our species... although I wouldn't want them to pass on their genes anyways. Just think about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by lakerzz8
your argument is thin, very thin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mormonman
if you dont want to hurt your species, theres much better and more effective things you can do then not support gays.
you could recycle more, donate money to charity, and stuff like that.
also, its quite questionable to use "biologically right/wrong", if it is discovered that all men are predisposed to rape, does that make rape right/ethical/allowed?
you could say you hurt your species whenever you use a condom, and whenever a woman refuses your offer for sex, thats also doing damage to the human race.
Also, evolution doesnt work on the level of species, it works on the level of genes. The individual rather then the group is what matters, the only reason you sometimes see "group selection" is that in close population, individuals are normally quite related to each other, and natural selection favours genes which co-operate with other members of its group.
The very idea of species is a concept thought up by man to make organisation easier.
In case you were thinking that reproduction is the path to imortality, I'm afriad that doesnt wash.
your son has 1/2 of your genes, his son has 1/4, his son has 1/8, his son 1/16
mathematicians call this exponential decay, and after a few generations, your genes will be massively diluted.
Queen Elizabeth the Second is the direct decendant of William the Conqueror, but she shares almost non of his genes.
Although it can be shown that morals arise by evolution, it is much more complicated then saying "survival of the fittest, therefore i can rape/steal/kill whenever i need to".
Hate to contradict you here and will probably get burned for throwing this out here... The y chromosome stays the exact same through all the males in a family tree because it cannot be diluted by a woman's x gene because that would make them female...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakman
Everything else that you said I agree with though.
This got way off topic from terrorism didn't it?
That would imply that being gay is a choice. It is not a choice but genetic. And how does it hurt us biologically? Gay people will always be a minority. We already have overpopulation in many areas so I don't see how such a small minority not being able to reproduce would hurt us? And as someone pointed out, every time you use a condom, masturbate, or a woman doesn't put out, she is hurting the species the same way that gays are.Quote:
Originally Posted by mormonman
i agree, however the y or x chromosone is one of 46, all the others can easily be mixed around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aser
also theres more complicated mixing stuff.
i agree its not 1/2, but its as close as makes no difference.