the fact of the matter is that they BAN people TOO MUCH
END OF STORY
CASE CLOSED!
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the fact of the matter is that they BAN people TOO MUCH
END OF STORY
CASE CLOSED!
When you logg in - it tells you when you last logged in and form what ip address - so can they actually track you?
I played the game starting in back when it was runecsape classic in middle school. I transfered over my account to rs2 and i still didn't become a member for 2 years. I actually kind of enjoy the game sometimes. But it makes you not want to play it more and more when there are stupid randoms way too often that mess up the flow of the game and aren't even worth the time (say you are mining mith or addy and you get a few coins). Just makes me mad and want to auto more.
It's an endless cycle - the more they try and crack down on the autoers the worse the game gets and the more people switch over to autoing.
They need to do another big update (rs3) and make the graphics better - then people's friends(mine included) won't make fun of you and make you hate the game. With games out there like WOW what's youor friend in college going to say when they see you playing rs? Exactly, "look at this quier, what a tool" That's all I have to say
That article is a smash in the face to jagex haha.
if you use the signed client yes they can track you and they place a UID which tells them whos logged on from that comp and when...but if you use unsigned u dotn get UID and they can only tell the general netwrok u logged on from not specific comp...also...when im geting to college im going for phd in computer science, which is being paid for by the government..and people say the army sucks...so anyway since im taking that course...all my classmate probably play it to begin with and maybe i can introduce them to autoing if they dont already ;)
well after reading this thread i am very intregued... i reckon Jagex will end up going down the drains some day... but will they? if you think of the cash they are making it is unbelievable, so maybe they can afford to be sued... and even worse to afford the people to seu us :duh:
well i dont think jagex has been sued yet but im sure they've sued many people
Nice find Unnamed. :)
Talk about dumb though. How is that applicable to getting sued?
I completely agree. I posted that opinion once on the rs forums, but I got flamed so bad my ass was burned. It's almost like the common player has been brainwashed, and can't even see why some autoers are necessary for their precious economy when the facts are presented to them.
Jagex made runescape very badly becuase
1) Half the skills are useless and just space fillers
2) Everything requires you to have money in the first place
3) It's a 1 sides game. There are no different strategies for this game. Fact is you go pure/ hybrid or LOOSE and cannot make any money without a trade skill over level 40!
~~~~Yesiammanu :spot:
In my opinion it's an extremely bad idea to actively try and suppress opinions, written by fan sites no less, that don't view the company in their "preferred" way, it's not going to make your reputation better if the source of the opinion doesn't appreciate being silenced.
As fas as the article goes, Jagex are absolutely right with that "Limparse" example. The good majority of the population are English speakers, and that is going to be the general interpretation of the name; hence it is deemed inappropriate, and this is what it should say in their policy. "Crying" is a term that comes to mind.
As far as I can tell if Jagex are consistently following their own policies there is no problem. However, if the policy is ambiguous or is randomly followed/ignored, they should be exposed.
Anyway ... criticism is criticism. It should be embraced, not opposed. It's up to Jagex whether they're sort of going to "ignore" and tell off their fan sites, or attempt to create a community feeling within the game (hah, good luck, target audience ain't gonna let that happen!).
For future reference...
~The Original Article~
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Biased Banning Raises Brows
The Editor
Recently Jagex has been cracking the whip on rule-breakers who ruin the game for legitimate players. Apparently they are going by the policy: you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. There have been several reported cases of black marks or permanent bans for some of the most ridiculous reasons. Even when confronted with their misdeeds, Jagex has done little to recompense those players that they have made suffer. Furthermore, they have been very inconsistent with their processing, perhaps even biased against certain players, while overlooking others.
Do not take this the wrong way; I fully support Jagex in enforcing the rules of this game, but not at the expense of innocent players who mean no harm to others. Jagex needs to put themselves in the shoes of the players they wrongfully punish. Perhaps then they can accept their mistakes and take appropriate actions.
I will begin with my most general of three cases, namely the banning of players who simply mention fan sites such as Tip.It. Even vague references have resulted in players being muted, some even temporarily banned. This is just the smallest of the atrocities players have faced. The rule states:
You are not allowed to actively advertise in the RuneScape game or RuneScape forums. This includes advertising any website or product and no web addresses are allowed. Telling other players any web-address is not allowed.
This rule states clearly that we can not say website addresses within the game. Obviously people saying stuff like, go look at Tip.It are not the people being treated unfairly. The rule is firm about stating addresses, as well as advertising sites. The people who are treated unfairly are the people who are being banned or muted just for talking about a site with a friend, even without saying the address. There have been numerous mutes and bans for players saying they saw something on tipit.
Is it fair that these players receive bans for saying they saw something? Saying the word tipit does not tell a person how to get to our website. Talking about something you see with a friend is not a form of advertisement (unless purposely dialogued to be one). The point is that saying tipit will not lead players to our site without some work on their own to find it, such as doing a search. One can not just throw on a .com at the end of the name and find our site (I would highly recommend against visiting tipit.com). So why ban players for saying the name of something without giving them directions to find it?
What I find most ironic about this that Jagex supports the use of legitimate fan websites such as our own, yet bans players for talking about them (see Jagex's Fan Site FAQ). Perhaps it is time for Jagex to review some of the popular sites, decide which sites players are allowed to cite, and end the unjust banning of players who want to talk about a site with their friends – bans they are receiving even without saying the site’s address. Or perhaps they should extend the rule, saying that even the title of the site is not allowed. Do one or the other, but do not ban players who are not breaking the rule – those who talk about “tipit” but do not give its address.
As I said previously, this is just the weakest display of unjustified bans lately. Since Jagex started their banning spree, there have been countless innocent players banned for supposed violations of rule 8:
You may create more than one RuneScape account, but if you do, you may not log in more than one account at any time, and they must not interact with each other in any way. This includes "drop trading" or any other method of item transfer.
This rule is completely understandable. There are obviously unfair advantages to having more than one account logged in at a time, or having your characters trade with each other. The problem with this rule is that players on the same network (many homes now have multiple computers with internet access) are getting banned for interacting with their roommates or families. I am not a networking expert, but when I visit my parents and log in from their house, it shows the same IP in the “last logged in from” section regardless which computer I use. This (I’m assuming) is because they are all on the same router.
This greatly hinders players who want to participate in the game with their family. Even high ranked players such as our own beloved DroolMAN have suffered from this. He was recently banned for supposed violation of this rule; for giving several items to his daughter. Some unsupportive players believe that he was using his daughter’s account as a “mule” and giving her items for the sake of freeing up bank space. He denies these allegations, but his motives are insignificant in terms of this ban being unjust.
Even if he was using his daughter to free up bank space, the point is that she played from an entirely different computer than he did. She is a separate person. He did not trade with himself; he traded with his daughter. Even if he had to walk her through it, he was not trading with himself. There is no rule stating that you can not have a friend or family member hold your items for you, nor that you can not trade with players on the same router. Jagex should look into ways to better distinguish one computer from another on the same network. At the very least, they should give a warning to players to avoid trading with friends or family who share the same internet connection, or extend the rule to say that if you share a connection with somebody, you can not interact with him or her.
Now you can prepare yourself for the heart of the hypocrisy; the biggest display of prejudice in the game; the undeniable truth that Jagex is biased in banning players. What other topic could this be than inappropriate names? This topic has been a concern with me for as long as I have played this game. If there is one aspect of Jagex that I am completely repulsed by, it is their ineffective control over appropriate player names.
What brings this disgust into the Times, however, is that Jagex is banning players for their names, but they are waiting until a player has been around for months, maybe even years; banning players whose names are not offensive (while saying that is the reason); and leaving players with indisputably offensive names untouched.
As those of you who read our forums may have already guessed, much of this frustration lies with the ban of Limparse. He was banned after playing for several months, given the reason that his name is inappropriate. Jagex deemed this name unacceptable because they read it as Limp Arse. You would think that somebody at Jagex would realize "limpar" is a Portuguese verb, and that adding "se" to the end of a verb in Portuguese makes it reflexive. Either Jagex is taking a stand against names in non-English languages, or a verb meaning "to clean oneself" is somehow inappropriate. I suppose we should take extra care in not letting other players know that we take showers; a moderator might mute us for bathing…
This mistake was due to an oversight by Jagex. This case does prove that Jagex will ban players for inappropriate names even months after the account’s creation. They will not allow you to change your name, thus you start from scratch, unless you have another account already. The fact that they will take these measures also signifies that Jagex is letting some players with inappropriate names continue to enjoy the game. Limparse was noticed due to other reports against him, but ultimately banned for his name. Why should players who do not get reported for other issues be allowed to keep their inappropriate names?
If Jagex is going to ban players for inappropriate names, they should upgrade their settings so that less inappropriate names get past the filters. They should also have certain strings of characters that will flag their attention for a manual check of a name, so that players with potentially inappropriate names will get taken care of before they have become a long-term player.
Also, if Jagex plans to ban players with inappropriate names (as they should be), they need to ban everybody with an inappropriate name. I myself could name at least fifty players who are level 110 combat or higher with indisputably offensive names. Some of these players have been around since RSC, and since the Jagex administrators like these players, they do not get banned. This would make it seem that the offensive language rules only apply to some.
What kind of names am I talking about? Obviously I can not name specific players without permission, much less if their names are inappropriate. I can, however, give a few loose examples: names containing the term “fuh qu” or “fah q”; names containing censor-evading misspellings such as “suxcox”; names with messages saying, “You’re a hoe”; or names with an inappropriate alternative for the word cat.
It is very amusing how the phrases in these names are censored within the game’s chat, yet these players are above the rules. Many of the players I allude to are well over 1500 skill total. Given the amount of time they have been playing, it is evident that Jagex is conveniently overlooking these players’ names. Obviously they do not want to ban a long-term player, but does this justify allowing them to keep inappropriate names? Should the rules not apply to everybody?
I hope Jagex sees this. I am interested how this may shape the future of their customer support. I know I am not alone in my opinions. We do want the rules enforced, but we want them enforced without innocent players getting banned. We want the rules to apply to everybody equally. Giving some rule-breakers special treatment, while banning other players who have done nothing wrong, reflects poorly on RuneScape. End the hypocrisy, Jagex.
Wow Jagex has become a dictatorship. All they do is have the "Naw Bitch I'm not forgiving, for stepping on my hand Ima make you broke now!" attitude... Really wants me to blow up their servers one day :P
Andrew can go fuck himself the stupid cunt! if it wasnt for us "Cheaters" then think bout the prices of everything. The economy would fall to peices...
Yews are 330gp ea now, thats with hundreds of autoers, think if they all got banned? > ycj001 ycj002 ycj003 < look them up.
And ess, iff all autoers got banend runescape would crash.
ummmm yah i agree with some of your points and im not defending andrew whats his face right now im defending the community, i think you should edit you post and not call him a cunt cause jagex does once in a while stumple along sites like ours and they probably know about are im pretty sure they do, and if they find this im sure we would go down like kaitneiks so please dont get into personal attacks like that and put the community at risk...
Very interesting article, I was having a private conversation with my friend about a hacker that hacked another friend and half the conversation was in public chat, other half in private.
But a passing mod saw me talking with him and so gave each of us a temp mute which peed me off, but then the day after I tried to log on and had a 3 day ban! (For arranging a "scam")
So in my opinion Jagex are corrupt morons.
The way Jagex bans is seriously whacked :mad: My pure was hacked by my someone in my family on the same computer and same wireless network. I told them in my appeal against a rule 1 offence that my account was hacked by someone in my family therefore I had the same IP adress, yet they didn't spend there time to read the whole fucking thing, instead they used checked it with a computer. (technically, the way i put it, Jagex is telling us not to auto, yet they auto when it comes to the simple stuff they can get their staff to do.)
Lol i got banned from my low level acount that had alright skills and 300k.
For swearing.
Which i didnt even DO!
They just cant find a good reason so they make up BS.
But i was scripting on that acount:cool:
Gah, I could barely make it through half of the article. One thing I noticed though:
The reason those players aren't banned, isn't because Jagex "like those players." It's because the person created the account before Jagex implemented the no-bad-names rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Article
This is why I play WoW
i posted a reply to one of my friends threads.. 3 of his accounts were locked for no reason and then when he tried unlocking them they were atuo declined, and i said... "Fix it jagex or get your face KICKED in!"
and i was never banned :D... also.. im going to try appeal some black makrs with the f word :D
Let's Go Round Us Up Some Jagex Staff And Have A Good Ol' Fagex Drag!
we should make a game called cheatscape(haha). but jagex are wrong and need to get a life. thanks for those articles to. i enjoyed reading.
haxor
This article looks more like a blog. I'm gonna try to get it mainstream. It looks creditable enough for some med gaming sites.
wow, im kinda speechless after i read all of these. but jagex has enough money, with well over 50g a month. but i like the "community" feeling of this site.