RS Character Database

Thank you's, but I was basing it primarily off your first post - I think a lot of people only skimmed through it and just wanted to restate it for their benefit.

It would probably be a smaller system when you think about it though - you would only need 2 tables (RS_Chars, users) then have several pages for: registration, request & return, moderation (referring to updating account info) and character submission. Amongst those, minimal php would actually be needed. Basic db insertion and checking for registration, simple searching and queries for request & return, simple query for moderation and simple insertion query for submitting chars.

I would say that the only step that would need some form of complex stuff would be to have a character and password encryption setup in case the site/database is compromised and then of course we move on the integrity of who has access to the site and how we can be sure that everything is safe while in their hands - if we were to have enough faith in them, then character and password encryption could always be avoided.

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Originally Posted by Dan Cardin

As for jagex banning, they have no way of knowing that any of those accounts were actually autoed with.

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yes but account sharing is against the rules too

Sorry if i missed the post saying that this would be implemented/linked with SRL Forums?.
Didnt see no admin posting about this.

Ive said what i have come to say, this isnt going to work.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by rogeruk

Ive said what i have come to say, this isnt going to work.

Good luck.

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Care to say why?

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Originally Posted by rogeruk

Sorry if i missed the post saying that this would be implemented/linked with SRL Forums?.
Didnt see no admin posting about this.

Ive said what i have come to say, this isnt going to work.

Good luck.

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It doesn't need to be officially linked, but having a requirement that they send a pm to a database moderator with a specified string would work - it would mean after being removed from the database, unless they have multiple accounts, then they would be unable to rejoin to offend again. Not to mention no admins have said that it can't be - maybe if it does take off it could be or not, the future is open and nothing has even been produced yet.

Jagex would get into that and ban all those accounts.

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Originally Posted by R1ch

Care to say why?

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All the reasons are in my previous posts.

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Originally Posted by mixster

Thank you's, but I was basing it primarily off your first post - I think a lot of people only skimmed through it and just wanted to restate it for their benefit.

It would probably be a smaller system when you think about it though - you would only need 2 tables (RS_Chars, users) then have several pages for: registration, request & return, moderation (referring to updating account info) and character submission. Amongst those, minimal php would actually be needed. Basic db insertion and checking for registration, simple searching and queries for request & return, simple query for moderation and simple insertion query for submitting chars.

I would say that the only step that would need some form of complex stuff would be to have a character and password encryption setup in case the site/database is compromised and then of course we move on the integrity of who has access to the site and how we can be sure that everything is safe while in their hands - if we were to have enough faith in them, then character and password encryption could always be avoided.

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but if people are indeed donating higher leveled accounts and want to give them some metaphorical condoms, then a system of linking accounts to people (easy) would be needed to allow for those people to allow requests be sent to them (harder) when people want to use such an account. For the most part i would assume people would usually donate characters that wouldnt need such protection, but otherwise it would be a good idea and a fairly easy way to set people's minds at rest if theyreally care that much.

Rogeruk the only really mind changing thing you said was security. Otherwise it would be the duty of the donator to set recovery questions if they wanted to. Which leaves you with no real standing for why it wouldnt work. Then again i may have missed something. (not that i want to get into a debate about the merits and flaws. Just whether people think its in general a good idea, would use it and possible people who would be able to help implement it.

Im not trying to flame or anything just trying to point out my issues with it.

Major issue you have is account sharing. Jagex will ban the account. Not being funny but if this does work then the accounts would pretty much get banned.

You have the ideas and what you want it to do so your best bet is to do it. If it fails then at least you can say you tried.

Ill wish you the best of luck, ill help if your stuck with any PHP/MySQL problems just i honestly dont think its something that will work.

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Originally Posted by rogeruk

Im not trying to flame or anything just trying to point out my issues with it.

Major issue you have is account sharing. Jagex will ban the account. Not being funny but if this does work then the accounts would pretty much get banned.

You have the ideas and what you want it to do so your best bet is to do it. If it fails then at least you can say you tried.

Ill wish you the best of luck, ill help if your stuck with any PHP/MySQL problems just i honestly dont think its something that will work.

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Agreed. I don't think this will ever come into the works.

Hmm account sharing is a good point. Im not sure someone could quite call it account sharing. You're just leaving your password online for people to see. If that happened to a regular person they wouldnt ban them (seeing as they cant really prove that the account's been shared). So its a flaky loophole that Im not sure would hold up in practice but even so. They would only be able to ban accounts (if they were to bother/ even knew about it) that they could access. Which means the higher level accounts that people were to place protections on (meaning having to grant access to the account for someone to use it, which would make it not the db's fault, but the user's) would be safe, and the others wouldnt be too large of a loss.

This is all assuming that jagex cares/knows about it. I have had multiple account's usernames posted online usually with some inkling that said that they had been autoed accounts, if not only that i was posting them on an autoing site. None have been banned. As have other people. I dont think think that it will happen with this either. And assuming it does, seeing as it will only happen to throw away-ish accounts, it will prove itself wrong (with rather small consequences) rather than not get be accomplished because people thought it wouldnt work.

Well, how about we start a small system where by people just create accounts, run them through tutorial island then upload them? Doesn't take long to do, especially with a script, and it would be a good measure as to how willing people would be to participate. From them onwards, people could use them to get colours and the like and test scripts so that they become leveled over time. Not to mention as they are pretty low level accounts, with probably minimal effort put in, they wouldn't be a loss and it would be a good indicator as to how likely Jagex would be to ban them.

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Originally Posted by mixster

Well, how about we start a small system where by people just create accounts, run them through tutorial island then upload them? Doesn't take long to do, especially with a script, and it would be a good measure as to how willing people would be to participate. From them onwards, people could use them to get colours and the like and test scripts so that they become leveled over time. Not to mention as they are pretty low level accounts, with probably minimal effort put in, they wouldn't be a loss and it would be a good indicator as to how likely Jagex would be to ban them.

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Let's do it.

Well, I can setup a simple but ugly pure html & php system in a few days if no one else wants to produce a sexy looking one. Oh and unless anyone has a problem with my before mentioned specification of what is needed, I think it would be a good base.

Indeed. simple and ugly is fine for now, as well as your summation of the base. I hope you're better at php than I =P

Well, Gentoo install today/tonight, finishing and cleaning up a small Scar project tomorrow and then this the day after or tomorrow night!

Your starting base should probably be..

• - Option to add account
• - Option to borrow account
• - Password changing / timeouts.

will you need account's to start as i said i yhave a few i no longer want

indeed so, thenks. Else the creators would have to provide them, thus kinda ruining the exercise.

Get a page up and runnin and i will run characters through tutorial.

Tell me when it's ready.