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Did you cover or fill the crater?
Found the turning point.
I made a sick free fall, like you jump off from the highest point you can go to the lowest :) Right by my house. How can I make that a global warp?
I'm soooo sorry. I didn't place the tnt below but I did put the activator at the top... Link is no more? =[
Can some one please make that link again? My skin is link. =P
I made the most epic tower covered in a lava moat. LotR fans will like the tower.
Removed spawning abilities from new users. All users on first post have been given building privileges.
Boreas and lordsaturn are now mods.
I'm not on the list :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartzkid
Should I PM you? I don't want to spam your inbox
Just post your MC username.
Server updated to latest rev. Reduced privileges now in effect.
Cstrike = PoisonGodMachineQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartzkid
Updated privilege list.Quote:
Originally Posted by cstrike
Next planned change: Going to add worldedit for mods & admins.
<3 :) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smartzkid
Now tomorrow i'm going to finish the most epic fort the server will lay it's eyes on. Hoping for the 31st update to fix mine carts once and for all
hmmmm, i cant do /playerlist now :(
i also have a problem with someone that placed random TNT's near my killing machine, i dont want to damage it :(
put obsidian around the tnt and detonate it then remove obsidian!Quote:
Originally Posted by bobzilla69
I covered and am still working on filling!Quote:
Originally Posted by MylesMadness
AWW! Smartzkid, I need "/item" I cant fill the crater without it!
GAK! You guys don't have /item now?
EDIT:
There was a privileges problem, it should be fixed now. Default users have no ability to spawn or to build. Not sure if they can destroy blocks. (will test later)
Once the worldedit plugin is up, griefing should be extremely easy to counter. http://forum.hey0.net/viewtopic.php?id=93 if you want to see its abilities.
WHATQuote:
Originally Posted by MylesMadness
NOOOO :(
I spent quite a long time on that one...
EDIT: I suggest starting over. Use some sort of tool to 'copy' the important things like SRLTower and the other stuff and start over....
EDIT2: The server went offline?
Its back up!
Torch on water crashes the server =/
NOOOO Link died again.......
I cant build for more than 10 seconds after connecting without my thing lagging out to the point where I get 1 frame per 30 seconds
If you need to remove a single block of TNT, you can place 26 stone blocks around it in 3x3x3 (6 faces + 8 corners + 12 edges). Set off the TNT right before you place the last one, and the stone will be removed.
I never die. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgby714
I rebuilt him btw :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Runescape Pro
I'm thinking about starting a griefing server:
Clone main server daily (/bi-daily)
Run on a separate PC
Full spawn privelages to everyone
Crazy plugins (like low orbit ion cannon)
Not 100% uptime
Would run on the same IP, different port
F*ck... PoisonGodmachine just set off like 3k of TNT...
E: img594.imageshack.us/img594/649/capture017.png
E: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5388/capture017s.png
Smartzkid, would you please add me to the builders list? :)
username: craigx
Oh for fucks sake. Last night he was a complete idiot and was just blowing random shit up with TNT. We need to blacklist TNT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartzkid
Also, You didn't give me building privs >.>
PosionGodMachine, did you do this? I saw 3000 + TNTS spread out alond the island.
Theres more, but that is the most I can get in on one screenshot.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4359/tnt.png
Edit: Ninja'd by Zyt3x
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Originally Posted by Zyt3x
(-_-) .................... what else is there to say
We need more mods, less(read: none) tnt
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7943/win01.jpg
and
EDIT: I shrunk this link because I dont want you all loading 2 imgs
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3224/win02.jpg
I can now make my castle in the ruin. I wanted to make an epic wasteland and put my even darker 'stone tower of death' in there.
It will look like the evil fortress of doom :D
Took me 3-4 hours to place all that TNT
You destroyed half a world for... A CASTLE ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cstrike
Dont worry, definitely was not half the world. In fact, it's actually *much* smaller than half :)! To give you an idea, Dgby714 walked 4 hours in one direction [or something like that], and you can traverse the area in the screenshot within a minute or so of what you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dervish
Therefore, you're seeing what is probably 200x200 blocks, and the creator of the game says the map is 30,000 x 30,000, so the percentage of the map you see is a grand total of:
0.00004% of the entire world map is in that picture above
As to put it into perspective, an entire football field is usually 57600 square feet, yet the size of that land that I flattened would be equivalent to a mere 2 sq feet. Much much space left indeed. :) :) :)!
Since i made it that the human has to walk pretty far out to reach the desolated land, no one will come across it except the most hardened of travelers ;)
EDIT2: Out of pure curiosity I plotted the size of how much land I take up [at the most]:
Red dot [1 pixel] is how much I take up
Grey background is known size of the map
Cyan surrounding is so you can see it on the white background of SRL:
\/ right here
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1029/reddotk.png
So therefore I believe it to be good enough for me to begin building this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FUX4sSNqmE...nas_morgul.jpg
It was a pretty cool explosion :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cstrike
No... Your a short walk from your first building.....Quote:
Originally Posted by cstrike
It was fun :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Camaro'
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Now it is time for some debate for the general thread:
I believe TNT should NOT be blacklisted
- It is not only a useful thing at clearing terrain, but it is the easiest way to make underground valleys and clear out space for creating [whatever you want] underground. Unfortunately the map is only 64 units high AFAIK, and 64 units deep assuming we're at the middle. Without TNT were limited to miniature pathways underground-- unless others with much time can clean out many things.
As such, limiting us to 64 height sucks (this is on Notch's part). I think that if there is 128+ for the skyline then I agree we don't need TNT, since there's more than enough room to get buildings.
- We have obsidian which is resistant to TNT, and can disarm it.
Obsidian sucks to remove but it isn't that bad
- If people are caught placing TNT maliciously in a house, then they should be temp banned from the server.
TNT is sort of like a gun, it is the fault of the person who shoots the thing, not the item itself.
Now some of you will go "but... a gun can still go off and kill people!", but it can't in this game. To place TNT and have an accident, you need to do the following:
- Type in /item 46 1 to get one TNT
- Need to place it
- Need to attack it with intent to detonate it
And even then, one block of TNT won't do THAT much damage (though is irritating if placed properly).
I agree that the tnt should NOT have been placed in Camaro's house. That was bad, but the solution lay in the next number:- We have a whitelist, so we do not have to worry about people TNT'ing other houses. If they do, then the answer is obvious
- If anyone was upset by the minor thing I did [blowing up the surface for ~200x200 blocks, see my post above.
I did that because Smartzkid said he was removing TNT, so I needed to make sure I could lay the foundations for my castle. If people remove it based on what I did, I'd feel like my artistic measures in the server would be forcefully diminished...
Lastly a minor point included here would be that the rumor is there's going to be a reset anyways, but this is not enough to make a valid point for my argument.
Constructive criticism and debating ALWAYS welcome :)
Define short in terms of time (seconds/minutes/hours...etc), needs to be tangible for readers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgby714
You not even 5 mins away =/Quote:
Originally Posted by cstrike
1. It is also useful at blowing up entire buildings in 1 minute, where people spent 6 hours on making. Also useful for making gigantic holes to hell in about 15 minutes.
2. So what? without TNT we wouldn't even need to disarm anything...
3. If people are alone on the server, they can place as much TNT inside houses as they want, even set it off if they want, without anyone noticing. This isn't real life. There is no evidence what so ever of who set off the explosion. Please do not compare the game to real life..
4. I didn't get this one... Why shouldn't we worry about that?
5. I do not think it is alright. Even though the distance from the main spawn point, if everyone were to do this, the whole world would end up being a ugly wasteland with floating blocks here and there. No good thing.
1. I would be fine without tnt. It can be useful though. So far I have seen more harm done with it than good. grief bans?
2. Using obsidian to get rid of someone else decision should not be necessary in the first place. It might be useful is someone decided to line their house with it though and accidentally set it off..... ...
3. Isn't there a server log? Yes, this is a game. Not real life. There still is no need to be and act like a jerk. As is similar to real life, sometimes the decision of a few stupid decision people affect everyone else...
4. ??? property and log management?
5. On a side note, whose up for building rapture and fallout?
Someone burnt down the treehouse......
http://temp.ionoone.com/treehouse.png
Believe it or not through timing it takes 5 minutes to get there :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dgby714
Though this is quite a far ways away, its approaching almost 1000 tiles distance from the main SRL building. The closest building even to that location is my huge fortress (there is a large gap between them), followed by Camaro's house.
The only way to reach that point is have a straight line towards it, bee-line right at it (not falling into any holes or traps). With 360 degrees, and the new railway being set up, chances of anyone even coming across is are negligible.
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Anyone who maliciously blows up buildings others made should be outright banned.[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
It is true that this shouldn't happen, though if the worst did happen and someone was a bit of a dick, we can surround in obsidian and detonate safely-- though I agree with the point you have proposed completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
Server logs should show who is on and when. If someone does it during the night and the victim wakes up to it, they should be able to easily pinpoint it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
If it is done during peak hours, someone will notice unless the house is extremely far out of sight.
The comparison with real life was an analogy ;), is there a reason you don't want me to compare it with real life? :)
The key part is that if someone did want to blow up a house in game, it's first a thought and then an action that someone has to go forward with despite the failsafes put in place to prevent it from happening. The fact that they have to go ahead with it means they want some kind of pleasure out of destruction. Therefore, if someone wants to destroy someones hard work, they will do it regardless. If lets say someone wanted to destroy your (awesome) link statue. TNT would definitely do the job in a few minutes (I agree), but the person could also jump on top of the statue, and also within a few minutes... whip out a shovel and pickaxe to mow down the structure.
Therefore, if our worry lay within the speed of how beauty can be destroyed, I implore you to further look at the intent behind it. If as you say that I am wrong and that no one can track people doing malicious things, then we are in a dark situation indeed... as anyone can come along during the night who is on our white list and destroy our hard work-- even without the use of TNT. Likewise compared to the analogy, TNT acts as a time saver. It can take out huge things quickly-- though the destroyer's hands unfortunately are just as bad.
Whitelist means that someone we trust is doing it, and limits it to a small select few of people. From here we can narrow down the list much easier. If it was open to the public, I would be the first in line to request TNT banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
Why is it not a good thing? I like the view of it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
Despite it being desolate, it's exactly what I want. When the castle is made, I think in my subjective opinion it will be beautiful.
Also, if the entire world goes around doing what I did, then that means the people prefer the look of a desolate landscape, and their wish fulfilled. I think both my point and your point on number 5 are based upon what we subjectively like.
TY, please post more, it helps us root out various issues, I do feel as if we are definitely getting somewhere, plus you brought up great valid points :). I do appreciate you spending time to rebuttal
Anyone else who has a stance on the issue, please post! The more is better especially with a decision such as this.
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EDIT:
I really like a new idea that may have come from this, what if we have TNT on demand but not summonable?Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymity
I agree that neither of that should happen, luckily there is a way to disarm it if some griefer did thatQuote:
Originally Posted by anonymity
How was I acting like a jerk? :confused: I'm a bit confused, can someone point it out? If I was being blunt somewhere I apologize... sometimes I end up being blunt :)Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymity
Sorry I didn't answer your response. To answer: Yes sometimes the stupid few decisions of some guy to blow up a house for example ruins the game-- BUT we have the whitelist. If they do it once, they're gone forever.
If you meant to answer my question, the answer is ban them from the server :) Whitelist prevents rogues [sp?], and if someone gets banned from the server then we need not worry about it happening again, because their name is tied with SRL forum name (to void it, theyd need to make a new account...etc, which is too much work IMO)Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymity
Whats that? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by anonymity
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WTF!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgby714