Too many bots.

I'm positive you couldn't do anything to hurt them because there are too many bots.. :p

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Originally Posted by i luffs yeww

I'm positive you couldn't do anything to hurt them because there are too many bots.. :p

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Ahahhaa... lol.

Reflection is just as detectable as injection - just saying :P
Luckily Jagex haven't pulled that card yet.

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Originally Posted by Iamadam

Reflection is just as detectable as injection - just saying :P

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How so?

Zyt3x:

Reflection is just examining the client at run time without editing it, however, this is slower and more detectable than injection. Injection is modifying the client before loading it to be able to easily view the information inside of it, this means that the bot can read directly from the client, this gives the speed advantage over reflection. For detectability, injection can be used to remove/disable any client sided bot detection systems whereas reflection cannot.

Versus

There are two main kinds of bots: BCEL (Byte Code Engineering Library) and Reflection.

BCEL bots use an injector to hack the RS client. Once it writes its code into the client it is then able to extract lots of vital data about where it is in the game and what's going on around it. It uses that data to do the mining, woodcutting, fishing, etc., and to do it in a more human-like fashion.

Of course, you've just injected code! You've left a trail of botting evidence that leads directly to your account. Or have you?

Yes and no. The absolute best bots can use such elaborate algorithms that they are nearly undetectable to the kinds of detection systems that our good friends at Jagex have in place. There are millions of Runescape players online globally every minute of every day. There's no way they can monitor all of them closely at the level required to detect every bot. For the most part, they are waiting for reports from other players that there is a suspicious player. That's why you need to take a little time and search for bots that may be less well known, but that are also not as easily detected.
This leads us to Reflection bots. They simply read the data from the client as best they can, and use it to perform their tasks as best they can. They aren't as effective as the BCEL/injection bots, but they are essentially undetectable. Even if our good friends at Jagex suspect you are using one, there is no way for them to prove it because nothing was injected or otherwise altered within the client. Whew!

Found from amazing interntzor.

~Home

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Originally Posted by Home

Zyt3x:

Reflection is just examining the client at run time without editing it, however, this is slower and more detectable than injection. Injection is modifying the client before loading it to be able to easily view the information inside of it, this means that the bot can read directly from the client, this gives the speed advantage over reflection. For detectability, injection can be used to remove/disable any client sided bot detection systems whereas reflection cannot.

Versus

There are two main kinds of bots: BCEL (Byte Code Engineering Library) and Reflection.

BCEL bots use an injector to hack the RS client. Once it writes its code into the client it is then able to extract lots of vital data about where it is in the game and what's going on around it. It uses that data to do the mining, woodcutting, fishing, etc., and to do it in a more human-like fashion.

Of course, you've just injected code! You've left a trail of botting evidence that leads directly to your account. Or have you?

Yes and no. The absolute best bots can use such elaborate algorithms that they are nearly undetectable to the kinds of detection systems that our good friends at Jagex have in place. There are millions of Runescape players online globally every minute of every day. There's no way they can monitor all of them closely at the level required to detect every bot. For the most part, they are waiting for reports from other players that there is a suspicious player. That's why you need to take a little time and search for bots that may be less well known, but that are also not as easily detected.
This leads us to Reflection bots. They simply read the data from the client as best they can, and use it to perform their tasks as best they can. They aren't as effective as the BCEL/injection bots, but they are essentially undetectable. Even if our good friends at Jagex suspect you are using one, there is no way for them to prove it because nothing was injected or otherwise altered within the client. Whew!

Found from amazing interntzor.

~Home

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Yes, I've read that before, but he said reflection is just as detectable as injection and I haven't read that is the case anywhere on the internet, so that's why I asked him to prove his statement :)

Have you guys been to LRC LOL

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Originally Posted by Simtoon

Have you guys been to LRC LOL

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Living rock caverns? And ye.. There are bots.. Fuck loads to be honest :P


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Originally Posted by Zyt3x

Yes, I've read that before, but he said reflection is just as detectable as injection and I haven't read that is the case anywhere on the internet, so that's why I asked him to prove his statement :)

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Read the upper Quote before "Versus" From my post. :)

~Home

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Originally Posted by TomTuff

This thread is full of hypocrisy.

Don't think we're better because we don't use the same method - in the end, SRL is just another bot.

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I don't think we're criticizing them for botting, but the motives behind why they're botting and the part where there's hoards of them obviously botting and Jagex , for whatever reason, decides to not just permanently ban all of them. Not like they're hard to spot either.