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Goodbye fellow SRL'ers!
Reasons are obvious for anyone that knows me..
I was banned for something I did not do, and nobody even tries to listen therefor I'll move on to another community!
Admins @ Might want to take away my moderator access on some sub-forums.. otherwise I might end up stealing something! :garfield:
Hope you all the best & good luck in life! :)
Bye :(
Enjoy your life and c ya on another account :)
When my cousin got hacked and the hacker stole our rs money using his ip address I realized that you're probably not guilty.
I belive you are not guilty Naike :/
Not creating another, though you might want to ban "Baile Funk" as that account was created to check why the hell I was banned in the first place!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebe
Also, Is it possible to see your thread about me?
The discussion leading up to me being banned and kicked down to junior member? Would be a blast reading that.. As all I see is you having the IP, nothing else to go on.. and you took that over the fact that I was willing to pay what was taken +100m. I really would like to see your ideas behind this..
Banned from SRL or Runescape? I wish I knew the full story mate, but goodbye in any case. You'll stop by again later I hope?
Obviously most people did believe that you did it. I'd say about >90% in SSRL and Staff. Even though I generally like you, you're pathetic for saying ``no one ever listens'', perhaps I should indeed stop listening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
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Originally Posted by Naike
I actually played very little part in you being banned Naike despite that I posted the public thread about your actions. I confirmed your ip address was the same one that tarajunky posted had accessed the developers' test accounts. The rest was up to the staff (as made clear to me by Wizzup) and other devs/SSRL'ers to provide other evidence and insight. So if you would like to see those threads then contact an admin.
I wasn't what got you banned, you displayed the capability to do so yourself(see: digging yourself a deeper hole).
Put yourself in my situation..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebe
Firstly I was quite and talked to a moderator to avoid even more problems, but when that didn't work I was desperate to reach out to someone..
Neither did you or anyone else take a look into what I said? (Publicly, or told me anything about it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzup?
Why wasn't I given a chance to prove my story and payback?
Also in court, doesn't all of the jury members be on the same side?
Given the thought about me giving away 200m to tara would clear my name? Why would I scam someone and then offer him 4x, maybe even 5x the money? Please, please, please, explain that further.
The hacker could have used his ip address like I said before.
That's exactly what we did and this is what came out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
You didn't answer any of my questions..Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzup?
Actually, I think you've given plenty of arguments in posts you've made. They were just bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
You were given enough chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
If I hadn't stolen anything, I surely wouldn't offer paying more back. Actually, I wouldn't ``pay back'' anything since I had never stolen anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzup?
This is bullshit..
I would pay too, even if i haven't stolen anything. Just because i would get your guys trust. : /
Don't leave mate.
I think that this issue with Naike should be solve with different approach.
~Home
What community are you aiming for?
I haven't really decided.. something java related I think :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mastaraymond
Believe me, there are no other communities like this one. I have tried to fit in plenty of coding communities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naike
I'd have paid if it was within my capacity to because the account was under my responsibility. Obviously nothing is black and white and there are exceptions to that rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzup?
There is IP evidence beyond a doubt.
The fact that you continue to lie is sickening
Admit what you did
There is no proof.
I have used someone elses ip adress and computer name just so i can log into there ebay account.
The point is that if he reported anything that was purchased it will show all under his ip, his computer name, and the time and date he was logged in.
There is not enough evidence and the decision has been made to fast.
I'd say take it up to the higher court, if someone is willing to pay a fine just to get trust back, doesn't that show something?
Choose this decision wiseley as once again, another great SRL Dev/Member is being flamed away.
Here is a perfect example what could have happened to Naike.
All these accounts are already stolen, just not by me.
Progress Report:---------------------------------------------------------- Program: Firefox Url/Host: http://www.simpsons-club.de Login: Dzenan96 Password: 32ac278ea1c Computer: SIMPSON Date: 2010-02-17 17:18:59 Ip: 80.108.207.74 ---------------------------------------------------------- Program: Firefox Url/Host: http://izualarkistan.iz.funpic.de Login: dzenan.smailagic@gmail.com Password: RQGYEix2 Computer: SIMPSON Date: 2010-02-17 17:18:59 Ip: 80.108.207.74 ---------------------------------------------------------- Program: Firefox Url/Host: http://localhost:14534 Login: Dzenan99 Password: RQGYEix2 Computer: SIMPSON Date: 2010-02-17 17:19:00 Ip: 80.108.207.74 ---------------------------------------------------------- Program: Firefox Url/Host: http://www.extreme-gaming.de Login: Dzenan96 Password: RQGYEix2 Computer: SIMPSON Date: 2010-02-17 17:19:00 Ip: 80.108.207.74 ----------------------------------------------------------
No one would do this to steal runescape accounts as its not a criminal offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Overtime
THIS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Home
Really, as I've said earlier; I really like and trust Naike, and I've known him for several years. He is not a type to do something like this. I still trust him with anything.
Also, another "what the hell?"-moment; no one really explained to me how he can profit on paying back five times as much as he allegedly "stole"?
I would've offered to do the exact same thing, simply because I greatly value my membership here.
Also, I banned Naike's duplicate account.
Please don't turn this into a "Naike didn't do it" thread. The staff have already made their decision. Naike has made his. Lets move on.
Some people need to realize when they are being played like fools.
I don't want to see this hapen to N1keQuote:
Originally Posted by EvilChicken!
and some people need to realize that giving someone the benefit of the doubt when there isn't 100% proof is not a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by IceFire908
i guess if your a crappy hacker then, yes they wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by IceFire908
But if your smart hacker who constantly has a lists o IP's on standby and BATCH files to easily change your computer name, and all the common browsers used and downloaded to your computer, you will make sure that nothing is traced back to yourself, but to another victim. Hence, Naike.
There is always 2 sides to the story, and as far as i know, there is only 1 side.
I wont turn this to "naike didnt do this thread" only to make sure that you guys are making moral decision instead of being negative on the whole subject and being biased.
agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Overtime
it's not like it is even relatively hard to hide traces on the internet.
As this is not a "hacking forum" im not going to discuss my incognito tendencies; however, i assure you that anyone with an internet connection and access to google could spend about 5 hours and come up with a shaky way of doing this. and if the person in question was a pro, he would be able to do this with extreme ease.
Not saying I'm on the bandwagon on either side, but the simple explanation is that he didn't plan on getting caught...if he did I'm sure he wouldn't have done it since it would have came as a loss, but he banked on not being caught, which would be profit. Since he got caught he offered to pay it back and extra, which absolves him from nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilChicken!
edit: I actually find it crazy how you guy think offering to pay extra helps his innocents plea. If someone were rich it'd be okay for them to go around robbing banks because they could pack back extra? Does this mean I can start stealing accounts/geepees and just offer to pay back extra when I am caught? That is some very flawed logic in my opinion.
I liked Nike.
Very much.
And I hardly believed that it was him.
[harsh]But I don't want to be in a community where even developers/mods are possible scammers.
So banning him maybe is a lot, but required.[/harsh]
My 2 cent.
I was not able to fully explain myself(as usual ... ) so sorry for that.
If I was accused of scamming, and I did not do it, why would I payback the money? Moparisthebest also posted proof on the previous thread that links Naike with the same Ip's.
Like Brian said, naike was not planning on getting caught and thought he could get away with it.
It saddens me to see you leave, N1ke :( We'll chat @ fb and msn, right?
ByeQuote:
Originally Posted by Naike
If I did this, why would I login with my own fucking IP?
Say what you want, the admins voted, and they voted rather unfairly if you ask me.
Heads up though, this could happen to anyone, at anytime.
I still like to see all the evidence against me, as I haven't seen any since the start of this problem?
Oh and for those who asked over irc, I will not continue to develop on the reflection include.
IceFire, love you too..
Questions to all the admins, how much was taken? Is that even calculated?
I'd like to see the evidence too, and find it quite weird that Naike doesn't know it...
I do know that the IP matched the login on the accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zyt3x
But in this case that should be overlooked as I didn't run, I stayed and discussed, was open to all the admins, and talked about paying back the money after it was settled(as this was still my fault).
Why would I go through that trouble, to just hand out GP's?
Seriously guys.. Some of you are getting the picture and some are very short sighted.
Is this a goodbye thread or another thread for you to act clueless towards your actions?
So like I said before GOOD BYE ALREADY.
Am I not allowed to question the admins actions? :duh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebe
It's a goodbye thread, but people keep discussing, including yourself?
And for any person with a brain capable of seeing a story from two different sides should understand my dilemma...
I also think that all the evidence should be compiled in a thread in the "Banned users" section maybe? For future reference and justification. Although he is not banned, he has been severely demoted.
I agree with Brian's logic...plus quit whining on the public forums, pm the admins, they are the only people that can help you, all you are going to get is opinions in "SRL Public Forum > News".