My question is:
Is there a dungeoneering bot available to use that works after the nuke anywhere? I know there's not one on the site so I figured Id ask. *U may move this if u must cuz not to sure if this is the proper section to post this in
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My question is:
Is there a dungeoneering bot available to use that works after the nuke anywhere? I know there's not one on the site so I figured Id ask. *U may move this if u must cuz not to sure if this is the proper section to post this in
No there's not, and there probably won't ever be (for the public). Search next time, there are hundreds of threads about this.
Impossible.. Colour is the only thing working right now.. Other than that.. Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin33
I did search and the thread I read was old and said yes. I figured I would ask to clarify as I cant ask on a month old or longer thread. Thank you for answering. Wish there was one I hate legit dung :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry
Yes, infact there is.
Possible, or you yourself wouldn't know how to train Dungeoneering.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggzz
U take things too literal.. It's impossible.. Colours will change every single day, hr, whatever.. It would be a script of over 10k lines just for a couple floors.. one colour change messes up the whole thing.. by the time you even get to write the code for the 2nd or third floor, the first would have changes so drastically..Quote:
Originally Posted by Flight
Impractical and Impossible.. You'd forever be writing such a script. And would never get to release it since something will break constantly.
As for me know how to dung.. I'm human, I have logic and I learn.. Computers don't learn.. Artificial intelligence is still being developed but in the end still has to be developed by a human.
Yeah, all we would need is the colour bot god to write it, he has a few broken scripts under his belt, he can handle it for sure. Ego is so big he still can't listen to the logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flight
Are you still mad that your java bots are gone, bud? Or is it because you still can't get any Simba scripts to work for you? Keep it up with the attitude and I'll personally be counting the minutes before you're banned...again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fruit Bat
What the fuck is up with you? Clearly you don't care up be part of this awesome community which is a big mistake on your part because we have so many amazing things here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fruit Bat
Usually I'm lenient about being harsh but one more shit post from you and you're out of here. I might as well just ban you right now because I know you're prepubescent, sad, sorry ass, good for nothing, god complex, useless, ungrateful, unhelpful, ass will.... Do it.
@Kevin sorry about that normally I'm very nice!
There never has and in my opinion never will be a working dung script at this website. Very large task to tackle with color sorry!
If you are interested in a Dungeoneering party AFK'er I see that as very possible. I believe it's already been requested though.
Kiko has decided to give up on the botting community (I believe who you are referring to... From ShadowScripting). He remarked he had a great run at it and learned a lot, but feels it is time to move on. I was rather broken up over it... As I was a user from the first beta to the last release, gaining over 140m xp from the bot. I don't believe that there will be another Kiko in the world who wants to defy the impossible and create another Dungeoneering bot, especially based on color clients. For the moment, you're stuck with s/l or teams =/
Kiko made what script/bot?
And if another reflection or a new OGL bot was made, a dung script would also most likely be made for it to.
Not to put anyone down but you're praising him so highly I'm sure there are Many people capeable of making a dung bot.....
Kiko wasn't the only person who made a dungeoneering bot. Paradigm from RSBuddy made a working one, but he made his free. There was also another member there who I can't remember the name of, he made one, and he, like us, kept it entirely open source.Quote:
Originally Posted by motokid64
I think it's unfair to rule out something like that, I think it's more than possible.
if you believe he is all high-knowing and that there cannot be anyone as good as him, then you obviously haven't seen any of WT-Fakawi's scriptsQuote:
Originally Posted by motokid64
~shut
Lol I'm still on the 1st floor, started 2 weeks ago. I have quiet a few rooms finished on that 1st floor however.
It's just so much work... sigh.
Humans are also developed by humans.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggzz
He was constantly the one with the best script throughout though, from start to finish, it done more floors than anyone else's, it done highest complexity unlike most the others and it would run for days on end, that's tens of thousands of lines, running for days (of course there was no randoms, but the other dung scripts didn't run that long so obviously that's not a reason to take away from him).Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
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As far as making a dung bot here? Probably not going to happen.
Why? Is no one else as 'good' as teh mighteh kiko?
It's nothing to do with that. Kiko was good at it sure, he outdone his opponents in his category but he's not the only one person that could of done it.
So why can't it be done now? Cause of color?
Also no, if a human can do it, a color bot can. As for changing the colors every here and there, Kiko had that problem with obj and item ID's all the time. His script was updated like once every other day, the day he never updated it was because he was working on the update.
So now you should be able to see why it can't be done here. The amount of time it takes to even get the foundations of it working, then building it from there to a working model, then updating it daily from there. The only way someone can possibly dedicate that much time to something is if they were getting paid. People have other things to be doing in life than figuring out why the script isn't working, then making a fix, everyday. Seeing how this is a strictly 'scripts not for sale' open source community, not happening.
Only possible way it could happen is if it was a community project. Where everyone interested could do one of the jobs listed, such as collect colors for this, get a working smuggler function, etc... That way we could all take advantage of the open source aspect of this place instead of letting it hold one person back from making a dung script.
Those are my thoughts anyways.
Lol it's fine I know that your nice cuz your always helping + your a beast scripter so what you say goes. And thanks for answering. I didnt figure there was although I did hope cuz I hate legit dunging. My least favourite skill :PQuote:
Originally Posted by YoHoJo
This won't be done... in color anyway. It's a bigger project than ALL of MSI combined. And to be frankly honest, it'd be useless. The gains in game wouldn't be as useful as other gains, such as resource gathering...etc.
Thing is, the point is that it can be done in color. Would it take a long time to build it? Yeah, it would. It is just not worth it IMO.
Dungeoneering is the hardest script to code and whoever can make one for a color bot could code anything and should be saving the world instead of making bots...
I don't know why you guys seem to think its possible.. Before you can even complete 2 floors, the first floor would be almost entirely broken..
You think it's possible only because A: Someone else said it.. B: "Anything is possible as long as you can think of or do it".. C: You want to believe that colour is almighty and can do anything reflection can.. That's total bullshit. Colour cannot and will not do everything a reflection bot could have done. If Dtm's and Colours for TPA's have been getting broken almost every day for a lot of scripts.. You'd never even finish writing the first 2 floors without something being broken. You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone.. You'd have to have every single door/item/object ON SCREEN.. Stop lying to yourselves.. it's impossible.
I would monitor the progress of OGL intercept over on mopar, it seems to be coming along nicely and will make something like a dung script significantly easier than using only colour.
ggzz, it is possible. However, it's not worth it. it would be well over 10k lines of code.
I would monitor Reflection, namely powerbot, because they are slowly but steadly getting towards fixing reflection. I mean we may be a few months away still but progress is at least being made.Quote:
Originally Posted by quazzymodem
As for Kiko being some kind of God, Timer (Yes that annoying choob) had a pretty good one started but like all his stuff never really gets on with the work, Andrew (the guy who made the big frost dragon killer for rsbuddy before arbi stole it) also was making one, both of them were quite developed as well! I am sure there are one or two or three people I have missed as well so I believe if reflection was to come back for the long term then one would be made as good or better than kiko's.
But powerbot dont use reflection :redface:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCoder
Mate just play legitly for some days or try to code your own as im doing right now!
That's a lot of code it would take weeks to debug in addition to just the weeks of 24/7 coding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined
I doubt it is possible to make a working colour dungeoneering bot.
Nothing is "Impossible" for color based scripts. The how of it may be different and harder than other ways that you may be used to, but it is definitely not impossible.
What do you mean by "The first 2 floors". You're saying that as if each floor is the same every time round. You seem to be coming at this from angle like "Go in dung, start floor 1, write a script to finish it, woot now I have floor 1 done".Quote:
Originally Posted by ggzz
Floor 1 would be different everytime so your simple minded approach is obviously going to be impossible. You need to think a bit more complex then maybe you'll see how it is possible, just not worth any 1 persons time doing it.
If you used iDungeon Pro you'll know that it could do a dungeon without even knowing what floor it was on. Think on it, don't worry, soon you'll be able to think on a higher level, don't be overwhelmed.
As I don't dung a whole lot, but I know each time you dung it randomly makes a room. Does it ever have the same layout? Even if it was way on into it?
Would it be possible to write a function to check the minimap for doors needing to be opened? Have an output created that would allow for compass based navigation? Have the script automatically recognize all doors in a room upon entry to make another output that could be used with the minimap?
True :duh:Quote:
Originally Posted by nokkasiili
Using reflection:
http://i.imgur.com/3ciL9.png
Not me btw :P
/me is intriguedQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkCoder
~shut
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Care to post source or any info about that picture/bot dude?
You know people are gonna swarm with questions. Neat!
Secret :)
(I will try and get it verified or some more information about the source first)
Doesn't seem like they are trying to be a secret with a public youtube channel and advertising....Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCoder
http://www.youtube.com/user/GlowBotting/videos
Wrong glowbot mate :pQuote:
Originally Posted by YoHoJo
That channel belongs to: http://www.powerbot.org/community/us...e__tab__topics who for all intents and purposes is a random person.
A link which you guys can see with the image:
http://www.powerbot.org/community/to.../page__st__140
What is confusing me is that "glowbotting" is a brand of Nex's scripts (whom i know and sometimes chat to) yet doesn't seem linked.
Your speaking as if you knew anything about scripting and english.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borland
LOL your calling me simple minded when you can't even read that "You'd be running in circles fixing the first two floors. Not to mention that you'd actually have to write an algorithm for every single possibility for one floor alone" <--- Go google translate that and tell me what it means. I need to think more complexed? An algorithm for every possibility isn't complex enough for your reflection abusing (Removed because I can't speak without cussing.) I even said colours would break so drastically before you even finish the 2nd floor.. No doubt I have faith in colour.. It's possible from the perspective that anything is possible.. but taking it there is a whole other story.. Doing it is impossible as there is no way to detect every object, every floor, every possibility, every NPC and fight back accordingly, etc..
Goodluck with that. A slayer script is most likely easier. Don't forget.. SPS won't work in dungeons as you don't have a map for everything.
I have an idung account for ur info.. and I cracked it and shared it all the time.. I guess you don't know it works. He had reflection which could detect stuff that isn't on screen allowing the bot to figure shit out as it goes along.. colour does not have that and would need to rotate the screen a hell of a lot AND have the objects on screen for it to be detected.