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06-13-2012, 04:46 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by CephaXz

False statement. I used to be a leech, for more than 1 year. The reason I came to villavu is the same as almost all of the members here, thinking of leeching some scripts out of it. But after being here for a month, I can feel the community is meant to "learn and earn". After starting to script, you will only get better. Even if you had any problem, as long as you are willing to learn, people here will give you a hand in any problem you encounter. As like what Kyle said, I feel I can make anything I want now. Hardwork pays, hardwork never betrays.

However, I still like the idea of previews of scripts. Having a look of what's inside the members section is what motivated me from learning at the beginning. In the end, learnt that I can actually make them myself, didn't actually have the motivation of applying members anymore. Target was to know what's inside and script it myself to learn more advanced codes, that makes my reward = scripts that is the same inside, and improved skills. But that's just what I think, might not apply to everyone else.

What was the false statement?
06-13-2012, 05:00 PM
Yago

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Originally Posted by iFail247

What was the false statement?

I think he was talking about the whole superhuman paragraph/idea.
06-13-2012, 05:01 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by Yago

I think he was talking about the whole superhuman paragraph/idea.

Oh okay.
06-13-2012, 05:06 PM
CephaXz

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If farmers were to produce food and only share it with other people who can produce food, wouldn't society get fucked over?

More than enough food produced by farmers that is shared with all other people.

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Even if someone can code something basic, it may not even be worth using due to efficiency. Why would someone waste time learning something and code something that isn't that great and only end up getting rejected. Wouldn't have been wise for them to pursue something that they are more capable of?

Every of us leechers starts up scripting the same point. If A became a good scripter a month later and B still can't finish his first script, are you going to say A is genius and B is just dumb? I'd say A puts in much more effort than B. Everyone is capable of scripting with simba. I had totally zero knowledge on scripting. Unlike some people that has a lot of time, I'm a busy person in final year of degree in business. But making my first script actually only using some of my free time in 3 days. The moment you see it working and release your first script,

IT FEELS REALLY GOOD :f:
AND I'M SURE ITS THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE. FOR A MOMENT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'RE CHUCK NORRIS :norris:
06-13-2012, 05:18 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by CephaXz

More than enough food produced by farmers that is shared with all other people.

Um... if farmers shared it with only people that can produce food aka other farms, society would be fucked because you wouldn't be able to get food. Do you understand now? Same can be said about scripters: more than enough scripts are produced by scripters that can be shared with all others. Hope that makes a little more sense.

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Originally Posted by CephaXz

Every of us leechers starts up scripting the same point. If A became a good scripter a month later and B still can't finish his first script, are you going to say A is genius and B is just dumb? I'd say A puts in much more effort than B. Everyone is capable of scripting with simba. I had totally zero knowledge on scripting. Unlike some people that has a lot of time, I'm a busy person in final year of degree in business. But making my first script actually only using some of my free time in 3 days. The moment you see it working and release your first script,

IT FEELS REALLY GOOD :f:
AND I'M SURE ITS THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE. FOR A MOMENT YOU FELT LIKE YOU'RE CHUCK NORRIS :norris:

Finished does not mean efficiency. All the professional programs you see out in any market have to be top notch to even being sold. Everyone wants efficiency. I am not saying B is a dumbass for not finishing it.
06-13-2012, 05:23 PM
CephaXz

I think you don't feel me. Oh well, I give up :p
06-13-2012, 05:34 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by CephaXz

I think you don't feel me. Oh well, I give up :p

I understand what this forum is about and how it feels when you get something working. I was only trying to say my opinion on the matter and you don't seem to understand what I am trying to say.
06-13-2012, 06:14 PM
Yago

But farmers are not required to give away their hard earned crops that they put labor into. Instead, some farmers have decided to teach others how to farm so that people learn to become self-sufficient, thus solving world hunger.

There's a quote that says "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish..." Anyways, I'm just a bored individual so don't mind me....
06-13-2012, 06:22 PM
Ashaman88

Farmers are not a good example...you would die without food...you won't die without the private scripts. Thus food is necessary to live, while bots are not.
06-13-2012, 06:53 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by Yago

But farmers are not required to give away their hard earned crops that they put labor into. Instead, some farmers have decided to teach others how to farm so that people learn to become self-sufficient, thus solving world hunger.

There's a quote that says "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish..." Anyways, I'm just a bored individual so don't mind me....

That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.

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Originally Posted by ashaman88

Farmers are not a good example...you would die without food...you won't die without the private scripts. Thus food is necessary to live, while bots are not.

It is an okay example. I could easily use a car example. Works the same way.
06-13-2012, 06:56 PM
Yago

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Originally Posted by iFail247

That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.

Exactly, if everyone became dependent same thing goes. I guess there should be a balance.
06-13-2012, 09:04 PM
Kyle Undefined

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Originally Posted by iFail247

That is true. If every became self sufficient, the wotld would improve at a slower rate. It is better for people to focus what they are good at and share with each other. That quote is true too. I guess it really depends on how you view things.

It is an okay example. I could easily use a car example. Works the same way.

So your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

I'm just curious as to your reason to keep discussing this. I honestly don't know any other way to put it, as it's been explained before.

Also, a car example isn't good either. You don't NEED a car, you WANT a car.
06-13-2012, 09:22 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined

So your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

You are just a small portion of the world. You can't really call yourself self sufficient unless you are able to do everything by yourself. You are self sufficient in terms of scripting. I am saying the world and everyone is better off doing what they do best and sharing what they end up with. I am not saying they can't do what others are better at. Somewhat confusing.

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Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined

I'm just curious as to your reason to keep discussing this. I honestly don't know any other way to put it, as it's been explained before.

That is why I asked if someone could ask a mod to close this thread because it is going off topic and getting no where.

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Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined

Also, a car example isn't good either. You don't NEED a car, you WANT a car.

That can be applied to meat. You don't NEED meat, you WANT meat. A human only needs food to survive, but not meat. Meat just makes people more satisfied and makes it easier on them to go on about their day. A car/bike/bus/etc makes someones life much easier because they can get to places much quicker.
06-13-2012, 09:30 PM
Kyle Undefined

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Originally Posted by iFail247

You are just a small portion of the world. You can't really call yourself self sufficient unless you are able to do everything by yourself. You are self sufficient in terms of scripting. I am saying the world and everyone is better off doing what they do best and sharing what they end up with. I am not saying they can't do what others are better at. Somewhat confusing.

I was referencing what it sounds like you're saying, not me personally. Since it seems that you want to benefit from things that you haven't earned when others have. All of this is coming from your posts.

So again, your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

And by I, I mean yourself, as if you're speaking.

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Originally Posted by iFail247

That can be applied to meat. You don't NEED meat, you WANT meat. A human only needs food to survive, but not meat. Meat just makes people more satisfied and makes it easier on them to go on about their day. A car/bike/bus/etc makes someones life much easier because they can get to places much quicker.

Again, you don't need a car/bike/bus/etc. You just want to use something that someone else came up with. You're right, humans don't need meat. You're also being contradicting in that paragraph.
06-13-2012, 09:33 PM
Ashaman88

If I wanted meat I would pay for it. If I didn't have the money or if it wasn't for sale, I would hunt some for myself. If I couldn't learn to hunt I would just have to do without :(
06-13-2012, 09:45 PM
iFail247

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Originally Posted by Kyle Undefined

I was referencing what it sounds like you're saying, not me personally. Since it seems that you want to benefit from things that you haven't earned when others have. All of this is coming from your posts.

So again, your argument is basically this:

"Because people in the world aren't self sufficient, neither do I(We)."

And by I, I mean yourself, as if you're speaking.

Again, you don't need a car/bike/bus/etc. You just want to use something that someone else came up with. You're right, humans don't need meat. You're also being contradicting in that paragraph.

I already stated multiple times that this thread was originally intended to find if there was a private section. I have already got the answer. I also mentioned that this thread should be closed because we are not getting anywhere with this. I am in no way trying to get free stuff or argue my way in. I hope this is the last time I have to say this, but you never know.

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Originally Posted by ashaman88

If I wanted meat I would pay for it. If I didn't have the money or if it wasn't for sale, I would hunt some for myself. If I couldn't learn to hunt I would just have to do without :(

True, but most people would end up with no meat if they could not pay for it.

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