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I'm curious when I should email the detective again and ask for a update. I understand this isnt quicken loans; the process isn't instant.
I really want to start to see a little update so I can start to compile some of the information that I have so I can make a thread that I can update weekly with the progress report of the case leading up to the arrest.
He broke the law, no matter what reason. He deserves any punishment he gets, unless it's just too extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
po2n doesn't have the authority to put him into jail, he can only press charges. It's up to the judicial system to determine if he gets jail time or not. Even if he does get put into jail, he broke the law and took the risk. He can only blame himself for ruining his life.
If someone decides to do something against the law and gets caught, they brought the punishment upon themselves. They'll have to live with that mistake for the rest of their life, not anyone else.
Prosecute* :duh:Quote:
Originally Posted by vaporak10
It is a serious matter, fraud is fraud is fraud.
That is what the detective told me. Fraud via a virtual game or Fraud over selling someone something via ebay, etc...Doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzah
And this is what fraud means:
Fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
Fraud: A person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
Im not trying to justifiy what this person did because it is obviously wrong, that is black and white. However depeneding on how this situation would be handeled in court as stated above by joe u could be in effect altering this persons life forever. I mean my father owns many businesses and giveing this person a criminal record of this magnitude can deny them a extremely large portion of jobs avaiable, even after thier jail time and fines. Haveing said all this it is ulitmatly your decision and I completely support u in either choice, and this person has still broken the law and u are the victim, im just trying to state that this is much more than simply wining one for honest internet salesmen and ruining scammers. This person could be on either end of the spectrum, well off person evily scamming children, or father trying to help his family survive. This is a sersious situation.
Good job, too bad he won't get a life sentence, or death..
I just received a email from the detective this morning.
He said hes still waiting on Facebook's records (Not sure why though)
He's going to call Jeffrey Bjorkman later this week; he's going to approach it from " provide the product or give him back his money" angle.
Once he confirms that Jeffrey Bjorkman accepts giving the money back or product we can then discuss charges.
I responded back to the detective this morning that its long past getting back my money or the merchandise. Its now about right an wrong and if Mr. Bjorkman thinks he'll get away with it he will. Hence the fact he changed his phone #
Now that he thinks he may go to jail he wants to give back my money? What about all the other people he may have done this to...Or what about the fact he can do this to someone again, he isn't going to stop. He'll just say " oh man I better be more careful next time around to not get caught "
Sadly this time; I'm just going to see to it that he's arrested. I am looking to prove a point and when he's in his the holding cell @ the county jail and he's with career repeat offenders and there all discussing why they were locked up...I'll pay to hear Bjorkman say " I scammed someone for 200$ for a online video game " Boy oh boy.....
I applaud you for standing behind what is right and fighting for justice. I don't care what the crime is if a person chooses to commit it there are consequences, this is real life. Think about your actions as you are the one that's going to be living with them.
However, $150 is going to fall under minor fraud in court right? Probably won't "ruin" any chance of him getting a job. He will just have a fair bit of explaining to do at future interviews.
Sadly there isn't a such thing as minor fraud... Fraud is fraud, fraud of 5million dollars are treated the same as those who do 50.00 dollars...Quote:
Originally Posted by johnarnts
Its the amount of accounts that adds a bit of jail time...You know the insurance scams that are typically a permanent scam which involves thousands... Those would be the ones that have a long sentence.
Right now the charges the detective are looking at are; scheme to defraud //
its CHAPTER 817.034 which technically means:
The Legislature recognizes that schemes to defraud have proliferated in the United States in recent years and that many operators of schemes to defraud use communications technology to solicit victims and thereby conceal their identities and overcome a victim’s normal resistance to sales pressure by delivering a personalized sales message.
Also for those who think its crazy to be arrested over a game...Let me show you where he's breaking the law;
“Property” means anything of value, and includes:
Tangible or intangible personal property, including rights, privileges, interests, and claims; and Services
“Scheme to defraud” means a systematic, ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud one or more persons, or with intent to obtain property from one or more persons by false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises or willful misrepresentations of a future act.
If the amount of property obtained has an aggregate value of less than $20,000, the violator is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
Technically speaking fraud is based at under 20,000 or above 20,000 - 50,000 is second degree and 1st degree is 50,000 or greater...
Wow, Good luck man! I hope you get your money back, and a slice of revenge on the side!
Thanks guys I'll edit the first post with some photos of the email from the detective, all the research I have done to get where I am right now with my case.
I'll post some useful tips and advice the detective gave to me for others who may be in my shoes or may one day be in my shoes.
I'll post some of the proof that I have with the Bjorkman case along with his facebook link, address, Drivers License info etc.
In advance all this info in public records, address, drivers license, facebook, email.
Not breaking any privacy laws in advance for the forum.
On a side note; once he is arrested I am going to take his mug shot & drop it into photoshop create a really great flyer that says " SCAM ARTIST ARRESTED "
I've already paint Vista Print for 2k flyers of like the old western "WANTED" poster style and I am using a photo of Jeffrey Bjorkman from facebook and I have his address, height, guessed his weight, hair color, and email / facebook on the flyer saying " Scammer wanted " I am right now looking for someone in Gainesville that I can pay a flate rate to post all the posters around town. I've decided to post them up with in his zip code area and all major shopping centers around his area....
I'm currently also looking for his place of employment in the area to go pay a visit to.
He's a mall cop or some such like that. I know its near a publix shopping center because he said there located in the same plaza the day I sent my Western Union to him....Its not a huge town so I am sure I'll find it.
I'm very persistent and I figured while the detective builds his case I'll smoke him out of his hiding spot... I figured when he see's the signs around town its shoving his face in the pile of shit he created... Nobody wants to see their mistakes.
I think that poster thing is that too cruel... he will get his punishment, but you should not make the whole town laugh off him...
Honestly mate, I too really want to see this guy nailed hard, but that poster idea is going too far.
I know you're pissed off, but if things go through and he is arrested, he will get what he deserves.
Going too far may infact hinder a case against him. They could portray you as some crazy guy who just wants to embarasse this "honest" mall cop. I dunno, it could happen.
That is insane, hope you catch that crook!
DO IT!
The poster thing sounds perfect.
I've already invested in 2k flyers and about 120 cardboard 14x14 poster size ones.
I'm paying someone to put out all the flyers and posters for 150$ well worth the money to put a crook in his place.
HAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by po2n star
upload pics of the posters man!!!!
Once I am home, been at the office a lot lately.
Its what the guy gets for being such a scum bag. Some may think I am going to far but you know what; maybe this might teach this guy a lesson.
I know for sure he'll look like a dirt bag for a few days, hes only 20 or 21 years old. He'll get over it.