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    Updates that cause more harm than good

    There have been a lot of updates to SCAR that make it "user friendly" that also seem to render a lot of good scripts useless.

    Why make a update that does not also include a "fix" to make the old program also run?

    For example: Try to run forefeathers (a very good program) with the new update. Now fix all the errors to make it run with the "new and improved smart.scar update".

    My suggestion is:

    If there is a update, make the update userfriendly to old versions. A lot of posts ask "what version" the program was written for. Shouldn't they all be able to run with the latest version?

    What do you think?

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    Believe me, there are a huge number of updates and improvements that go in seamlessly. The Devs are very concerned with backwards compatibility. But when RS makes huge updates like they have many times in the last 3-4 months, changes have to be made.

    Most of the changes can be fixed by anyone with even a simple understanding of SCAR and SRL. Only the leechiest of leechers can't figure them out.

    SMART is completely optional, and if people want to update their scripts to work with it, that's their choice. But I don't think it's very wise for a leecher to complain that a script hasn't been updated.

    And you can always revert to any version of SCAR. They're all up there on Freddy's site. And you can revert to any version of SRL. They're all there in the revisions. If you don't like the updates, don't use them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Believe me, there are a huge number of updates and improvements that go in seamlessly. The Devs are very concerned with backwards compatibility. But when RS makes huge updates like they have many times in the last 3-4 months, changes have to be made.

    Most of the changes can be fixed by anyone with even a simple understanding of SCAR and SRL. Only the leechiest of leechers can't figure them out.

    SMART is completely optional, and if people want to update their scripts to work with it, that's their choice. But I don't think it's very wise for a leecher to complain that a script hasn't been updated.

    And you can always revert to any version of SCAR. They're all up there on Freddy's site. And you can revert to any version of SRL. They're all there in the revisions. If you don't like the updates, don't use them.
    well said...gosh i hate leechers

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    You mention SMART, yet that is one of the easiest things to add to a script. Even me, with practically no knowledge of SRL was able to do it and modify a few scripts. If you can't read a step by step tutorial you shouldn't auto with SMART anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Believe me, there are a huge number of updates and improvements that go in seamlessly. The Devs are very concerned with backwards compatibility. But when RS makes huge updates like they have many times in the last 3-4 months, changes have to be made.

    What changes required the SMART update? My old 2.03 programs work fine with none of the updates so far: 5 lvl 80 miners/smelters with no bans. "not a leecher, just let my teenage boys and their friends use the bots, don't know you guys well enough yet."

    Most of the changes can be fixed by anyone with even a simple understanding of SCAR and SRL. Only the leechiest of leechers can't figure them out.Why is it when there is any question concerning SRL the assumption is that you have to be either a genius and not ask, or a leecher when you point something out. Isn't this a community of sharing knowledge? Seems to be a bunch of hypercritical individuals stuck on themselves pointing fingers at anyone who asks questions (but praise each other for asking just as stupid questions, or posting a script that is a copy of all the other scripts out there) or is concerned about program changes.

    SMART is completely optional, and if people want to update their scripts to work with it, that's their choice. But I don't think it's very wise for a leecher(there you go with that leecher b.s. again) to complain that a script hasn't been updated.There you go, I must be a leacher because I have pointed out that a script no longer works. If you actually read my post you would have noticed that the script works with the changes I made. I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY WISE FOR A DEVELOPER TO MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT BEING COMPATABLE WITH THE VERSION IT IS UPDATING. Could you imagine a Windows Vista update that renders all the add-ons useless?

    And you can always revert to any version of SCAR. They're all up there on Freddy's site. And you can revert to any version of SRL. They're all there in the revisions. If you don't like the updates, don't use them.This mentality is why when a script is posted you have to add the instructions that it only works with version X.XX .

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhackxattackx View Post
    My old 2.03 programs work fine with none of the updates so far
    Some1 is using 2.03? :O:O
    Just go on a 3.14. (Dunno if 2.03 and 3.14 are the same, i mean if SRL is updated does it matter then?)
    And @ ur question, there's ''mostly'' mentioned what to do and what version of SRL u can use.
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    Could you imagine a Windows Vista update that renders all the add-ons useless?
    Are we Microsoft? Do we have billions of dollars to spend on development?

    No, we do not.

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    @ xhackxattackx - wow... you have quite the attitude don't you. You are exactly the type of person that these forums do not like. Everything you say... Just look at the posts you make:

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...765#post332765

    http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/show...4&postcount=18

    ^ that post really makes me mad... You have no right to even speak to wt-fakawi like that. Your just a leeching noob that only cares about yourself.

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...688#post332688

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...922#post310922

    I could find a million more but I don't feel like it. If the decision was up to me I would have your ip banned on these forums and that would be it. You are worse than the worst leecher in the world. You think you own these forums and your just a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhstarter10 View Post
    @ xhackxattackx - wow... you have quite the attitude don't you. You are exactly the type of person that these forums do not like. Everything you say... Just look at the posts you make:

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...765#post332765

    http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/show...4&postcount=18

    ^ that post really makes me mad... You have no right to even speak to wt-fakawi like that. Your just a leeching noob that only cares about yourself.

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...688#post332688

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...922#post310922

    I could find a million more but I don't feel like it. If the decision was up to me I would have your ip banned on these forums and that would be it. You are worse than the worst leecher in the world. You think you own these forums and you probably don't even know what srl stands for.
    [Spam]Owned?[/Spam]
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    Quote Originally Posted by fom View Post
    Are we Microsoft? Do we have billions of dollars to spend on development?

    No, we do not.
    Leave it up to fom to add to a post count and totally miss the point of the discussion. Do you need billions of dollars to spend on development to do it right? No you don't. Basically because it doesn't say fom-Dev

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhackxattackx View Post
    Leave it up to fom to add to a post count and totally miss the point of the discussion. Do you need billions of dollars to spend on development to do it right? No you don't. Basically because it doesn't say fom-Dev
    You're saying we(Edit:Oopsie, DEVS, i mean ) are doing something wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhstarter10 View Post
    @ xhackxattackx - wow... you have quite the attitude don't you. You are exactly the type of person that these forums do not like. Everything you say... Just look at the posts you make:

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...765#post332765

    http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/show...4&postcount=18

    ^ that post really makes me mad... You have no right to even speak to wt-fakawi like that. Your just a leeching noob that only cares about yourself.

    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...688#post332688
    I would say "Go fuck off, but Hobbit would only edit it anyway.
    http://www.villavu.com/forum/showthr...922#post310922

    I could find a million more but I don't feel like it. If the decision was up to me I would have your ip banned on these forums and that would be it. You are worse than the worst leecher in the world. You think you own these forums and your just a moron.and your so much better with statements like this...again I say,"Go fuck off" Can you tell I'm trying to get Hobbit's attention now?




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    I suggest you to watch ur mouth before u get banned.
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    Hay nielsie95, congrats on your promotion.

    It really doesn’t matter what you say, the real reason I’m doing this is to get every mod’s attention in this forum. Every one of you bed wetting brats don’t have a clue as to how the real world works and cry as soon as someone challenges the great WT-Fakawi, well that is pathetic. Every once in a while someone will say something you really don’t like and you have to be able to take it like a man and not cower like a child.

    wake up and grow up.

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    nielsie, you going to ban me yet or let me speak my peace? Freedom of speech or a dictatorship forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhackxattackx View Post
    Hay nielsie95, congrats on your promotion.

    It really doesn’t matter what you say, the real reason I’m doing this is to get every mod’s attention in this forum. Every one of you bed wetting brats don’t have a clue as to how the real world works and cry as soon as someone challenges the great WT-Fakawi, well that is pathetic. Every once in a while someone will say something you really don’t like and you have to be able to take it like a man and not cower like a child.

    wake up and grow up.
    Show me the way to the heaven?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xhackxattackx View Post
    Hay nielsie95, congrats on your promotion.

    It really doesn’t matter what you say, the real reason I’m doing this is to get every mod’s attention in this forum. Every one of you bed wetting brats don’t have a clue as to how the real world works and cry as soon as someone challenges the great WT-Fakawi, well that is pathetic. Every once in a while someone will say something you really don’t like and you have to be able to take it like a man and not cower like a child.

    wake up and grow up.

    What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? In one of your other posts you said you were 49 or somewhere near there. This is not how a grown man acts. If you were truly an adult you would realize these are kids and you would not be cussing them out and talking down to a community leader and role model for them. It is obvious you are a liar because no sane adult would come to Runescape forums with the "xhackxattackx" username and carry himself like a child. You tell people to take it like a man and not cower like a child, but all I have seen from you is childish behavior directed toward minors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhackxattackx View Post
    Leave it up to fom to add to a post count and totally miss the point of the discussion. Do you need billions of dollars to spend on development to do it right? No you don't. Basically because it doesn't say fom-Dev
    LOL.

    I didn't miss the point, your complaining how SRL isn't good enough for you, and how you want it backwards compatible. Then your using Microsoft as an examples, which is ridiculous because we are not Microsoft.

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