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    "For it is not what goes into your mouth that will defile you; rather, it is what comes out of your mouth that defiles you." - Jesus of Nazareth

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    * Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941
    Interesting but i have a very hard time believing some of this stuff like the above quote, and big companies being scared of it is bullshit, because they would just use it to their best interest... it is a very useful plant and i think it has lots of uses and would bring incredible tax revenue to the government and making it legal might lower the use of it in negative ways, if it was legalised it is the only "drug" that should be, and it should have an age limit and treated much like alcohol...

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    Bibles were made from cannabis lol.
    I actually believe this could have happened though.
    There's no other explanation for how something so good could actually become illegal that i can think of.

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    well its just perception, and the 60's didnt help at all... The problem with pot however is it is an entrance level drug and people can never get enough of things so naturally it would lead to other drugs, pot by itself isnt bad, even though i have never done it and dont plan to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirlaughsalot View Post
    well its just perception, and the 60's didnt help at all... The problem with pot however is it is an entrance level drug and people can never get enough of things so naturally it would lead to other drugs, pot by itself isnt bad, even though i have never done it and dont plan to...
    thats a HUGE mis belief. The reason why the government labeled pot as a "gateway drug" is because once people try pot the think " that wasnt so bad, what else has the government lied to me about " and they MIGHT want to try other highs. Most people are fine just smoking pot.

    another thing is most people try booze or ciggerates before weed. So wouldnt those be the real gatewa drugs?
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    Booze and normal cigs are "door opener drugs" - they start you usually thinking Marijuana is okay, because your normal cigs were okay.

    Just what I'v heard.


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    hmm, I agree with some points in the article however there are some things that are a little bit off.

    In the article it says that smoking pot ONLY HELPS the body. It does have positive effects, but it does not excuse the fact that the smoke going into your lungs is having a negative effect. It also doesnt talk about the brain-cells that it kills when you use it.

    I really dont like to look at extremist articles like this because they are very unrealistic. The same goes for extremist articles against pot...

    I like to find myself in the middle agreeing with points in both sides. Realistically America would be better off if we legalized it for certain amounts. Well thats my 2 cents worth...
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    hemp isnt only used for smoking. theres many usefull things you can do with it, like make rope etc. the government is morons, and doesnt realize this. i THINK it can even help solve the fuel problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerauchert View Post
    hmm, I agree with some points in the article however there are some things that are a little bit off.

    In the article it says that smoking pot ONLY HELPS the body. It does have positive effects, but it does not excuse the fact that the smoke going into your lungs is having a negative effect. It also doesnt talk about the brain-cells that it kills when you use it.

    I really dont like to look at extremist articles like this because they are very unrealistic. The same goes for extremist articles against pot...

    I like to find myself in the middle agreeing with points in both sides. Realistically America would be better off if we legalized it for certain amounts. Well thats my 2 cents worth...
    Brain cells im not worried about, not sure about the amount but you can do something like smoke pot every day of your life without becoming retarded...

    Lungs on the other hand is bad, but it is not as bad for you as tobacco...
    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1205 View Post
    hemp isnt only used for smoking. theres many usefull things you can do with it, like make rope etc. the government is morons, and doesnt realize this. i THINK it can even help solve the fuel problem.
    lol "the government is morons" priceless XD

    Btw for a lot of people it is an "entrance level" drug, my brother did pot quite often, then did speed a couple times... He has quit now, it was never a big deal but he did get in trouble for the speed...

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    That seems to make sense... "doesnt hurt me right now, so this wont either" kinda messed up logic...

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    Hah, somehow my English class got on the topic of Marijuana and kids were talking about how it's "not actually that addictive" and my teacher countered that by saying, "It does make you sterile though."

    About half the class got HUGE eyes and started talking all at once, "Are you serious???. It was so funny. You have to do it a lot to be sterile, but it freaked the class out. I know a few of them in there are on drugs regularly.

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    It's possible that Hemp could be such a super plant or that it is very over estimated. Most sources there are very old and are more there for effect than evidence. If it had modern sources from qualified doctor's and scientist's then I would find it more believable. Oil, for example, was seen as a super liquid when plastics were made and even when they just found it was highly flammable; now we know that it's killing the planet. There's a chance that Hemp could have a side affect to the environment as well. Of course, there's a good chance it doesn't, but you never know as it was last grown industrially a generation or so ago before scientists knew about these radical new global warming theories etc.
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    I don't think pot will bring you to other drugs alone.
    If you were going to smoke meth one day, you were going to do it weather you found pot or not.
    You won't smoke pot and then just be like "wow now im totally ready for some hard stuff"
    I think some people are just crack heads.

    And even if this is not true, that means this is-
    another thing is most people try booze or ciggerates before weed. So wouldnt those be the real gatewa drugs?
    So they can't blame poor old mary jane

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1205 View Post
    hemp isnt only used for smoking. theres many usefull things you can do with it, like make rope etc. the government is morons, and doesnt realize this. i THINK it can even help solve the fuel problem.

    ok, get things right lol...hemp is not a drug, it cannott be smoked and does not get you high, however it is a type of cannabis plant(the male) ...hemp was used to make money, proving that the government is not morons lol...cannabis for products such as rope and hemp are good and so it should be seen as good by everyone

    the female cannabis plant is the one containng the thc (the stuff that gets you high and kills brain cells)...in my opinion, its a good thing, but to some people (generally the ones that claim to have never tried it) its a bad thing lol

    every1 is entitled 2 their own opinion, im just trying to show you the good, and the bad

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    If they made it legal, then it would be like alcohol, you would have to be a certain age, but the gov. could make a lot of money of the taxes, also then it would open up a lot more jobs for farmers to grow it, and possibly some industries to make the hemp into stuff, but it's been legalized in Denver Colorado, you can have up to an ounce (28 grams) but you still get a fine though (about price of speeding ticket), it's just more tolerated in Denver now. They should just legalize it throughout the whole country, I really don't think anything bad would come out of it.

    My personal oppinion is that it might not be legalized because people already get it for medicine and that would be the main reason to legalize it, but since it already is legal to use it medically it's hard to say if it'll be leaglized (like tobacco), but I think eventually it will be, but probably not for a few years, until people wake up and realize it's not so dangerous.

    and also people have died from drinking to much and from drinking while driving, you can't smoke to much, you would fall asleep before that happens, and most people wouldn't even have enough money to buy that much anyway because you need your weight plus some pounds (forget how many) but it's too impossible to smoke to much, and people usually get paranoid after smoking marijuana and get pulled over for driving to slow, so there wouldn't be as many deaths from driving under the influence of marijuana compared to the amount of D.W.I.'s, but some people probably have died or been injured badly from driving while high, it could happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben600006 View Post
    ok, get things right lol...hemp is not a drug, it cannott be smoked and does not get you high, however it is a type of cannabis plant(the male) ...hemp was used to make money, proving that the government is not morons lol...cannabis for products such as rope and hemp are good and so it should be seen as good by everyone

    the female cannabis plant is the one containng the thc (the stuff that gets you high and kills brain cells)...in my opinion, its a good thing, but to some people (generally the ones that claim to have never tried it) its a bad thing lol

    every1 is entitled 2 their own opinion, im just trying to show you the good, and the bad
    i know thta....

    im saying even if smoking it was iilegal they can still use the hemp plant. so it would be bennifical to grow on a large scale but they are morons
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    Smoking pot definately has a negative effect on the brain. Not only does it inhibit learning and short term memory, it alters brain chemistry and kills brain cells. I have personally seen a very smart person turn very stupid from smoking pot over several years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfSheep View Post
    Smoking pot definately has a negative effect on the brain. Not only does it inhibit learning and short term memory, it alters brain chemistry and kills brain cells. I have personally seen a very smart person turn very stupid from smoking pot over several years.
    tell that to my 3.612 gpa. its possible to smoke pot in moderation. this is also not just about smoking but how the hemp plant can be usefull
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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1205 View Post
    tell that to my 3.612 gpa. its possible to smoke pot in moderation. this is also not just about smoking but how the hemp plant can be usefull
    Yeah, however his addiction got out of control and he would skip school to smoke weed and play world of warcraft.

    I couldn't stand reading the article to be honest. Reminded me too much of those "9/11 is fake!!!!" conspiracy articles.
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    Well Marijuana itself isn't that bad, but I'm not about to try it.

    My cousin is about 22 now. He got involved with marijuana at first and knew it was relatively harmless. But then he started moving towards cocaine and other more serious drugs. He spent 2 years in jail after he was caught dealing, and was on meth among other drugs.

    After doing marijuana a person is much more likely to try other more dangerous drugs, and that's where the risk lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach11 View Post
    Well Marijuana itself isn't that bad, but I'm not about to try it.

    My cousin is about 22 now. He got involved with marijuana at first and knew it was relatively harmless. But then he started moving towards cocaine and other more serious drugs. He spent 2 years in jail after he was caught dealing, and was on meth among other drugs.

    After doing marijuana a person is much more likely to try other more dangerous drugs, and that's where the risk lies.
    if your going to do coke, your going to do coke. if your gunna try meth your gunna try meth. if your going to sell drugs your going to sell drugs. since a lot of people try pot it usually gets blamed when they do stupid shit later on. smoking weed isnt going to make you sell drugs.
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    It doesnt make you but it helps the process

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    That's entirely true, but the reality is that I read in this article that marijuana actually has MORE tar than in cigarettes. Many people say it's not addictive (scientifically speaking), but psychologically, socially, and even physical dependence are factors that usually bind them to weed. However, it truly is the "gateway drug" (at least from my experience). I've seen it all too many times. Oliver, it may be that the government is blantantly denying the obvious facts of the matter, but it doesn't mean that they are entirely wrong. Half the people in society (at least in high schools and colleges) today lack the abstinence from drugs and self-respect to not smoke weed. There is a lot of ignorance on both sides of the case going on at once. The only way we can get a fair report is from Wikipedia

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    ^ yes marijuana DOES have more tar then cigs. but in my experience ( both my parents some cigs ) people smoke A LOT more cigs then marijuana. if you try other drugs you would try them even if you never smoked weed before. you dont get high and then go decide to try coke. you do different drugs because YOU WANT TO. your right though, there is a lot of ignorance, but weed is no where as bad as the government would like us to think it is.
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    Thats true about the lengths that the government will go to cover it up, but its statistically proven that marijuana leads to other drugs. Of course, it is the user's choice if they want to go straight from "being clean" to a "cracky", but has anyone heard of a person that has made that jump?

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