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    Default Runescape Bonds - 9/25

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    so goldfarmers can get free membership now?

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    @YoHoJo

    Ouch, that might hurt your business a lot :s
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodz View Post
    so goldfarmers can get free membership now?
    It's not free as you would sell the gold you use to buy the Bond anyways.

    Atm, it's price (15M on the GE) is about normal cost for a membership if you sold gold @ 0.25/M.
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    well i wasnt expecting that!

    however, the way i see it, the only people who will buy/sell gp are those after a few mill or a month or so's membership ... surely there wont be that many people selling 100s of millions for bonds, i mean thats what 10+months worth of membership?
    so the people that want to buy large quantities of GP will still have to go to goldfarmers ... just my opinion

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    The price of bond is a little expensive at this moment.
    While costing only 7.95$ for a 30-day prepaid card, the price of bonds is 5$.
    However, it will hurt the gold seller. Since paying 15M for 14 day membership is quite reasonable, this make gold seller won't be able to sell gold at price higher than 033$/M .

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    Well bought 6 of them in the GE atm for 7.5M each. So cheaper than CC atm if you buy it with the account that will use it.

    It costs 1.5m to convert it into a tradeable form.
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    wow, that is damn cheap for a 14-day membership

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    yeah really cheap, gunna have to jump on that! :P

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    ugh why did i give away my 600m after eoc...

    btw this does work for osr too right (the membership)

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    Gotta say I dont really understand how this works ... why would it stop someone from buying 100 million from a "friend"??

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalninja View Post
    Gotta say I dont really understand how this works ... why would it stop someone from buying 100 million from a "friend"??
    Because they can now buy this bond from Jagex, selling it for RS gold, bypassing any risk of getting banned. The market will also adjust to reflect real life cash/RS gold universally, so gold farmers should not be able to sell cheaper either.

    So.. less gold-farmers. I suppose that is good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotReligious View Post
    Because they can now buy this bond from Jagex, selling it for RS gold, bypassing any risk of getting banned. The market will also adjust to reflect real life cash/RS gold universally, so gold farmers should not be able to sell cheaper either.

    So.. less gold-farmers. I suppose that is good?
    The cost of buying these Bonds with $ and selling for GP is twice as expensive as buying gold from farmers/sellers, so only the maxed/cautious and ignorant will do it this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurg View Post
    The cost of buying these Bonds with $ and selling for GP is twice as expensive as buying gold from farmers/sellers, so only the maxed/cautious and ignorant will do it this way.
    At the moment. Now I could be wrong here, but why wouldn't the prices balance between the two? Or at the very least force goldfarming to be far less profitable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotReligious View Post
    At the moment. Now I could be wrong here, but why wouldn't the prices balance between the two? Or at the very least force goldfarming to be far less profitable?
    It could but will be balance in the favor of where the demand is.

    So at the current prices, this update would only make goldfarmining more profitable.
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    Great deal for membership. It will only hurt GameCard re-sellers.

    Goldfarmers will always be able to sell it cheaper then the bonds are $/1mil Wise. Its just the way the rs market works. Only really paranoid people will buy bonds for rsgp, its super expensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurg View Post
    It could but will be balance in the favor of where the demand is.

    So at the current prices, this update would only make goldfarmining more profitable.
    I have to admit that I don't see how this can in any way make goldfarming more profitable. There are now two ways to acquire RS gold with money in a market that used to be a goldfarming monopoly.. so how on earth are goldfarmers in a more secure financial position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotReligious View Post
    I have to admit that I don't see how this can in any way make goldfarming more profitable. There are now two ways to acquire RS gold with money in a market that used to be a goldfarming monopoly.. so how on earth are goldfarmers in a more secure financial position?
    Currently, there is a subset of people being tapped into that bring $ into RS that didn't before.

    So there is more demand for gold to buy bonds ($/GP rises as demand rises) and we can buy RS members atm at cheaper prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurg View Post
    Currently, there is a subset of people being tapped into that bring $ into RS that didn't before.

    So there is more demand for gold to buy bonds ($/GP rises as demand rises) and we can buy RS members atm at cheaper prices.
    Hmm. Didn't think of that possibility.

    Interesting, I guess time will tell how this will effect gold farming, my guess is negatively. Let's look at this again in say a month or so.

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    Rs is now pay-to-win.

    You can buy bonds and trade them for items ingame. Or 14 day membership.

    Such a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyn View Post
    Rs is now pay-to-win.

    You can buy bonds and trade them for items ingame. Or 14 day membership.

    Such a shame.
    Rs has been pay-to-win for a long time, they're just going further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyn View Post
    Rs is now pay-to-win.

    You can buy bonds and trade them for items ingame. Or 14 day membership.

    Such a shame.
    Seems like this is pretty much it. Gold farmers will probably still exist, but when you have a legit non-bannable way to purchase in game gold with real money, you're less likely to go to gold farmers since doing so can get your entire account banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyn View Post
    Rs is now pay-to-win.

    You can buy bonds and trade them for items ingame. Or 14 day membership.

    Such a shame.
    I guess it's pay 2 win if you like paying $150 for a 99.

    But then again, it always has been; now it's just not ban-worthy and 2-3x the price.
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    I'm a bit lost on how this hurts anything, or how memberships are so 'cheap' right now? (Just though a bit more, maybe I understand better now).

    First of all, RWTers will just switch to trading bonds instead of gold, or gold prices will just adjust to fit. There is still a demand/supply for gold, I don't see how bonds will change any of that at all?

    This seems to mostly just hurt membership trades, which don't even move close to as much GP as gold farmers/flippers.

    From a $/days standpoint, bonds are more expensive for membership:
    $5(Bond) / 14 Days = $0.3571/day of membership.
    $7.95(Membership Card) / 30 Days = $0.265/day of membership.

    However maybe (idk the prices) from a GP/Membership standpoint bonds are cheaper for players to buy legit from each other and then redeem themselves for membership.


    Thanks a lot for tagging me @masterBB; that was nice of you
    I actually only deal with RS07 things right now, so this has no/little effect on me as far as I can see.


    Edit:
    Bonds are currently 12.3M, and cost $5 each.
    So a cool way to think of it is that Jagex is essentially selling gold at $5/12.3M or $0.4065/M which is really high compared to average EoC gold prices of $0.28/M - $0.32/M.

    So right now, as far as I see, based on bond prices in $ and gp it's better to go with a RWTer than Jagex.


    Edit:
    This seems to only be a win for people who are
    1) Unable to use their IRL $ to buy membership
    2) Don't know about/Are too scared to use RWT Forums/Black markets
    And therefore buy/sell overpriced gold (in the form of bonds/GP) to exchange for membership.

    If you can do math, and know bout any RS black market forums, you can see that as of right now RWT is way cheaper.
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    5$ for an 8m bond?? loool
    average jagex customers right now:


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