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    Well I was botting 3 accounts with @Clarity's MudRC Script and 2 with @Sin's Superheater. Yesterday I got one banned. Didn't think much of it, just "oh well, a little bit less cash into my pocket". Now I came back from the gym and saw a real knockdown. Another 3 accounts got banned as well, including the one I just set up yesterday for superheating. If even Clarity's antiban was not strong enough, what is there to do? Lost like 100M, unluckily, because I thought I'll transfer the cash tonight. I think it's time to move on to something else or start learning pascal and scripting some private methods, but idk...

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    Same IP for all?

    I've been investigating the possibility that Jagex IS infact using IPs to aid in bans, and I have evidence to prove it.

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    Yeah, same IP, botting on my own computer. But they didn't ban all of my accounts, I still have 2 left, but I'm afraid to bot on those now. Just gonna transfer cash and rest maybe for a bit. What if I called my ISP and asked for IP to be changed?

    By the way @the bank can you share your findings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the bank View Post
    I've been investigating the possibility that Jagex IS infact using IPs to aid in bans, and I have evidence to prove it.
    I'd like to see the evidence. I, too, believe that IP bans exist. The difference between you and me is I have no proof

    On topic, I would ask what you were using but I already did through forums/pms
    From what I've gathered you are using:
    SMART
    RS3
    Same IP address for all accounts
    Botting 10-12hrs/day
    Memebers and f2p

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    Yep, accounts "asleep at night". Jagex is not stupid, they timed everything. They saw how I didn't transfer the cash just yet and waited for a perfect moment. And BAM! Almost all at once. I wonder why they left my other two bots, and why they didn't ban my mule, even though I drop traded, they I am sure they see it anyway.
    @cosmasjdz was also chain rekt hard, probably IP flag as well as me, so there is your "proof", sort of.
    I have also had the same recovery address on like 3 of them, but strangely enough only one of them was banned, other two had different recovery emails. Now I have 1 account with that same recovery address and 1 with another one. Hopefully Jagex doesn't come down on Simba/SMART hard and this was just a minor incident. I don't know how I'll make as much money then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollcrank View Post
    I'd like to see the evidence. I, too, believe that IP bans exist. The difference between you and me is I have no proof

    On topic, I would ask what you were using but I already did through forums/pms
    From what I've gathered you are using:
    SMART
    RS3
    Same IP address for all accounts
    Botting 10-12hrs/day
    Memebers and f2p
    I was running 10 accounts through 5 different proxies. 2 accounts per proxy. When one would be banned, so would the other account linked to that proxy.

    Decided to take it up a notch, and forced a RWT ban on an account linked to another fresh account that hadn't broke any rules. Both accounts, including the fresh account, were banned.

    TO believe you're safe from IP ban in this day is false.

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    Jagex usually times up bans to make you hit psychologicly harder. Usually i lose all farm but test accounts. Like last ban wave i lost 11 out of 12 spider eggs collectors, well technicaly i lost 12 Cause they delayed ban like 2 weeks and with test account only got banned yesterday. Technicly if you give sufficient data amount to jagex and jagex decided you botting if they think 1 of them is botting then all of them are basicly banned unless they dont have sufficient data i mean not enough playing time or so, or like in test account case it has different playing patterns but since i just kept botting with it and it got banned, used modified script and other accounts now safe so either ill get banned another 24 soon, mostly in 2 weeks, or it got caught before with those 11...

    About choosing ip doubt that. Personally i am still making proffit but if jagex would look for ip they wouldnt let me run like at most time 12-24 accounts for average 3weeks 6hours a day each before ban. They would want to kill my farm by banning instantly.

    And about antiban and so. Always modify public script or you basicly suiciding. Thats probably jagex looks for same behaviour as aready detected scripts. Reapeating patterns and like actions after action at 100 % certainty. Actually if they think you botting they just make up a reason you bot and ban That would explain my 90 minutes dragons bots survival few months earlier or they look for certain IP and just troll with me...But so far probability is in they dont look for ip side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the bank View Post
    I was running 10 accounts through 5 different proxies. 2 accounts per proxy. When one would be banned, so would the other account linked to that proxy.

    Decided to take it up a notch, and forced a RWT ban on an account linked to another fresh account that hadn't broke any rules. Both accounts, including the fresh account, were banned.

    TO believe you're safe from IP ban in this day is false.
    How do you force a RWT ban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmasjdz View Post
    Jagex usually times up bans to make you hit psychologicly harder. Usually i lose all farm but test accounts. Like last ban wave i lost 11 out of 12 spider eggs collectors, well technicaly i lost 12 Cause they delayed ban like 2 weeks and with test account only got banned yesterday. Technicly if you give sufficient data amount to jagex and jagex decided you botting if they think 1 of them is botting then all of them are basicly banned unless they dont have sufficient data i mean not enough playing time or so, or like in test account case it has different playing patterns but since i just kept botting with it and it got banned, used modified script and other accounts now safe so either ill get banned another 24 soon, mostly in 2 weeks, or it got caught before with those 11...

    About choosing ip doubt that. Personally i am still making proffit but if jagex would look for ip they wouldnt let me run like at most time 12-24 accounts for average 3weeks 6hours a day each before ban. They would want to kill my farm by banning instantly.

    And about antiban and so. Always modify public script or you basicly suiciding. Thats probably jagex looks for same behaviour as aready detected scripts. Reapeating patterns and like actions after action at 100 % certainty. Actually if they think you botting they just make up a reason you bot and ban That would explain my 90 minutes dragons bots survival few months earlier or they look for certain IP and just troll with me...But so far probability is in they dont look for ip side.
    I know that they don't exclusively ban by IP due to maybe several people in the family playing RS but when all of the accounts are doing same activity/2 activities at the same time etc etc, that might be a trigger.

    By the way, 24 bots? Are you using lots of VPSs or are you running them all on your own computer?

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    I run them on two computers, they use same internet modem. Running 3 accounts per computer at a time 4-6 hours a day each account. So per day 24 accounts if running on both, if on one then 12. No vps, nothing. Thats why i think jagex doesnt look for ip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel View Post
    How do you force a RWT ban?
    Rather easy actually, use a chinese proxy and trade ~100m.

    Relevant: if you use proxies ALWAYS make sure they aren't based or resolving to chinese IPs, these are heavily watched.

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    Well the ISP didn't change my IP, so I'll have to buy a VPN. Any idea how to assign the VPN's IP to Simba/RS Clients only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im New Sry View Post
    Well the ISP didn't change my IP, so I'll have to buy a VPN. Any idea how to assign the VPN's IP to Simba/RS Clients only?
    Can't you change your IP by hard resetting your router, making sure it stays off for like 30s-1min and then turning it back on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    Can't you change your IP by hard resetting your router, making sure it stays off for like 30s-1min and then turning it back on?
    Unless you have a static IP setup then yes you can, but if you do have a static IP it will retain through as many restarts as you can try to do lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    Can't you change your IP by hard resetting your router, making sure it stays off for like 30s-1min and then turning it back on?
    Quote Originally Posted by the bank View Post
    Unless you have a static IP setup then yes you can, but if you do have a static IP it will retain through as many restarts as you can try to do lol.
    Just bought some premium VPN and, surprisingly, speeds haven't dropped so I'm good and back to botting! Now to prepare those accounts! Hey if I switch the IP every few days, would that be a trigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Im New Sry View Post
    Just bought some premium VPN and, surprisingly, speeds haven't dropped so I'm good and back to botting! Now to prepare those accounts! Hey if I switch the IP every few days, would that be a trigger?
    Nop, I swap IP's every 24 hours (Well my ISP does it for me for w/e reason)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawker View Post
    Nop, I swap IP's every 24 hours (Well my ISP does it for me for w/e reason)
    Your ISP isn't, your router is because the dns lease expires

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    Yeah I have to agree, it's the Router not ISP. If you want to reset your IP, just turn your router off and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffcfoo View Post
    Yeah I have to agree, it's the Router not ISP. If you want to reset your IP, just turn your router off and on.
    I do not have a dynamic IP, so it does not help me. I even switched it off and on today just because of bugged DL/UL speeds and IP was the same.

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    If you are receiving Gold farm bans then they will most likely ban all of your accounts faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sekirei View Post
    If you are receiving Gold farm bans then they will most likely ban all of your accounts faster.
    Nah, macroing major

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    Damn man, Sorry for your losses I would probably tryout using VPN's.

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