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    Default Question about 07 botting

    So I've noticed there are tons and tons of suicide accounts in old school runescape... but how are their owners paying for that much membership? wouldn't they just be better off buying gold? I know that previously we could get membership by verifying an e-mail, for 14 days. Now that this option is gone, are people actually paying for them? It seems to me like it would be more expensive to spend money on that many accounts, and then basically throw it away by botting extremely carelessly on it.

    anyone know anything?

    Thanks.

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    1) It is cheaper to buy the $2 trial membership deal than buy the gold you can earn before the bot is caught.
    2) A lot of those suicide botters are the ones building up the gold that those other people are buying...

    People are being careless about it, and they simply don't care is what it comes down to.

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    2 dollar membership does not exist anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    1) It is cheaper to buy the $2 trial membership deal than buy the gold you can earn before the bot is caught.
    2) A lot of those suicide botters are the ones building up the gold that those other people are buying...

    People are being careless about it, and they simply don't care is what it comes down to.
    I dont know what prices of gold are right now, but i'd guess like a dollar a mil. If they buy a membership for like $7, then they need 7 mil before they make any profit, which just seems ridiculously bad.

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    They don't offer the Refer-A-Friend bonus anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by drub View Post
    I dont know what prices of gold are right now, but i'd guess like a dollar a mil. If they buy a membership for like $7, then they need 7 mil before they make any profit, which just seems ridiculously bad.
    07 prices are at $6-7 per mil, so it only takes 1mil to break even. And there are plenty of methods where that can be done within 4-10 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    They don't offer the Refer-A-Friend bonus anymore?



    07 prices are at $6-7 per mil, so it only takes 1mil to break even. And there are plenty of methods where that can be done within 4-10 hours.

    Thanks for the prices, I should have guess higher... But refer a friend would only make it easier for jagex to ban bots. It would provide a pretty obvious link between all accounts, and when tons of reports are coming in on all those referred accounts, it shouldn't take long to do the math

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    Quote Originally Posted by drub View Post
    Thanks for the prices, I should have guess higher... But refer a friend would only make it easier for jagex to ban bots. It would provide a pretty obvious link between all accounts, and when tons of reports are coming in on all those referred accounts, it shouldn't take long to do the math
    You must always take into account the fact that jagex bans bots only when legitfags moan too loudly about it. There is no other reason why jagex should eliminate paying customers. The bans are for publicity, not for changing things really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l6bustank View Post
    You must always take into account the fact that jagex bans bots only when legitfags moan too loudly about it. There is no other reason why jagex should eliminate paying customers. The bans are for publicity, not for changing things really.
    Actually I think you'll find that they have been targeting 07 pretty hard recently. Really cracking down there as its their latest product and they don't want it ruined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny View Post
    Actually I think you'll find that they have been targeting 07 pretty hard recently. Really cracking down there as its their latest product and they don't want it ruined.
    True about the crackdown, but there are still so many bots left. If they wanted to eradicate most of them, they would bite a huge chunk from the hand that feeds them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l6bustank View Post
    True about the crackdown, but there are still so many bots left. If they wanted to eradicate most of them, they would bite a huge chunk from the hand that feeds them.
    But in reality let's look at this from a business standpoint.

    Let's say the biggest gold farmers are caught within 2 weeks of their account's creation each time they make an account. The gold farmer is very happy because hey, they more than paid off their account, and Jagex is happy because "We caught x more gold farmers!" That gold farmer made a decent profit and he creates account 2 that is also caught within 2 weeks and repeat session.

    But wait a second.. He made money and basically paid 2 months for 1 account. So Jagex is making EXTRA money off bots by banning them. If Jagex banned them sooner and botting wasn't profitable, then bots would actually go away. Botting is profitable for everyone now in the currently occurring scenario though because Jagex is getting extra payments for people not using their full time.

    Maybe that's not happening on purpose... Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    But in reality let's look at this from a business standpoint.

    Let's say the biggest gold farmers are caught within 2 weeks of their account's creation each time they make an account. The gold farmer is very happy because hey, they more than paid off their account, and Jagex is happy because "We caught x more gold farmers!" That gold farmer made a decent profit and he creates account 2 that is also caught within 2 weeks and repeat session.

    But wait a second.. He made money and basically paid 2 months for 1 account. So Jagex is making EXTRA money off bots by banning them. If Jagex banned them sooner and botting wasn't profitable, then bots would actually go away. Botting is profitable for everyone now in the currently occurring scenario though because Jagex is getting extra payments for people not using their full time.

    Maybe that's not happening on purpose... Maybe.
    hmm... good point there. I wonder whats the average ban time atm? My acc has been under the radar since the OSR include came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l6bustank View Post
    You must always take into account the fact that jagex bans bots only when legitfags moan too loudly about it. There is no other reason why jagex should eliminate paying customers. The bans are for publicity, not for changing things really.
    How can you possibly know that. Unless you are a jagex employee, you couldn't really be sure of that. You're saying it like it's a fact when it's really an overarching, vague, non-factually based speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    But in reality let's look at this from a business standpoint.

    Let's say the biggest gold farmers are caught within 2 weeks of their account's creation each time they make an account. The gold farmer is very happy because hey, they more than paid off their account, and Jagex is happy because "We caught x more gold farmers!" That gold farmer made a decent profit and he creates account 2 that is also caught within 2 weeks and repeat session.

    But wait a second.. He made money and basically paid 2 months for 1 account. So Jagex is making EXTRA money off bots by banning them. If Jagex banned them sooner and botting wasn't profitable, then bots would actually go away. Botting is profitable for everyone now in the currently occurring scenario though because Jagex is getting extra payments for people not using their full time.

    Maybe that's not happening on purpose... Maybe.

    Well yes, the botters and jagex win. That is definetly true. But someone always loses. You cant have a winner without a loser. In this case, the game itself is the loser. As botting becomes a very welcoming/profitable idea, more people do it, causing a massive flow of items into the game, ruining the economy and many training spots, causing the legit players to quit due to not being able to get levels or make money without botting. Then the gold prices go way down and runescape turns into botscape. Thats why they are banning bots in 07.... so that doesnt happen.

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