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    My plan:

    Start carrying instead of leaving the carrying to my team.

    DST.

    Get IP for Akali/Lulu/Leblanc and 3 flat AP quints and I'm ready for gold >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runehack123 View Post
    My plan:

    Start carrying instead of leaving the carrying to my team.

    DST.

    Get IP for Akali/Lulu/Leblanc and 3 flat AP quints and I'm ready for gold >_>
    Goodluck doing that as a support in Bronze - Gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    Goodluck doing that as a support in Bronze - Gold.
    Oh well support isnt for me besides quite often when I dont offer myself up as support someone usually trolls and picks a second adc or something, which is perfectly fine Id say.
    e.g. lost game to Teemo+Twitch lane when I was supporting with Taric and shaking my head when that Cait still ended up with less cs than Teemo. What's the point of support if the adc doesn't know how to last hit? Hitting minions is absolute taboo you know the drill (you steal 1 minion I afk now gg etc...) even if it means getting a minion that your adc wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
    Now you might say Teemo+Twitch is a squishy easy lane . YES, but this Caitlyn just misses all her Q skillshots and ends up with no mana. During trades with Twitch she just lets him smack her with basics while she walks to the tower. All my stun initiations were just so half-hearted and it was an easy win for them. They didn't even have a support.

    NO. NO more supporting these players I have had enough. At gold ELO I will support sure. But no more!

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    sp rarely viable at low ELO and often not even picked


    Jungling my way out of ELO hell soon hopefully...Although I feel like the last 4 games I had the luck of having good teammates every time so it's going to be a rough road.
    I'll keep posting my progress here
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    I'm gonna be honest, In solo que I keep crawling back up to silver and when I play with a friend we drop down.
    Why?

    Well he mains ADC. I main Support, however. If we are both bot lane we cannot look after the other lanes as easily. So we have gotten into the habbit of widening our roles... E.G I go mid he goes jungle... That way as a duo we can carry harder.

    In solo Que I only support... and guess what 90% of the time I win

    p.s

    Teemo and Twitch are not an easy lane to fight. Both have poison and can burn you down hard.
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    How do you win 90% of games as support? Got any tips £.£
    Are you like a mastermind of coordinating your team?!?

    too scared of ranked right now ..worried of lose streak after my wins :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Runehack123 View Post
    How do you win 90% of games as support? Got any tips £.£
    Are you like a mastermind of coordinating your team?!?

    too scared of ranked right now ..worried of lose streak after my wins :/

    1 answer, Offtank support. I take the blows for the team, I sacrifice myself to get the adc to stay alive...

    Thresh has great CC, amazing saving potential etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcMfIvg_r44

    Skip to about 12 minutes in. My friend is ap carry and I still manage to defend him like a boss... It's seriously all down to Thresh. Trying starting off with full support soraka etc, soraka is AMAZING for sustain

    13:20 - 13:30 is what I mean about sacrificing btw, Instincts made me flash to the APC and use my 99% slow

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    1 answer, Offtank support. I take the blows for the team, I sacrifice myself to get the adc to stay alive...

    Thresh has great CC, amazing saving potential etc.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcMfIvg_r44

    Skip to about 12 minutes in. My friend is ap carry and I still manage to defend him like a boss... It's seriously all down to Thresh. Trying starting off with full support soraka etc, soraka is AMAZING for sustain

    13:20 - 13:30 is what I mean about sacrificing btw, Instincts made me flash to the APC and use my 99% slow
    nice thanks I'm on a crazy win streak right now so I'm sticking with Sejuani for now

    this is all the games I played (1 normal I lost not included) since my last post.
    I can't actually remember losing a game with her.
    I won 7 games with her and lost 1. KDA ratio 7.4.

    I got promoted back into SilverIII, but my last win only gave me 15 points.
    Can't complain, but I hope it doesn't get drastically less as I move up. I need to keep winning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runehack123 View Post
    nice thanks I'm on a crazy win streak right now so I'm sticking with Sejuani for now

    this is all the games I played (1 normal I lost not included) since my last post.
    I can't actually remember losing a game with her.
    I won 7 games with her and lost 1. KDA ratio 7.4.

    I got promoted back into SilverIII, but my last win only gave me 15 points.
    Can't complain, but I hope it doesn't get drastically less as I move up. I need to keep winning...
    You're probably best off losing 1 game every now and again as the W/L Point ratio is hard to compete against. The more you win the less you are awarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    You're probably best off losing 1 game every now and again as the W/L Point ratio is hard to compete against. The more you win the less you are awarded
    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    You're probably best off losing 1 game every now and again as the W/L Point ratio is hard to compete against. The more you win the less you are awarded
    Can you please explain this W/L ratio ? If I lose a game will I be OK again? My win streak is through the roof right now...

    [Just won another Sejuani game 6 / 7 / 23. No pull at blue and died to Teemo at blue! Then died to katarina when I got to red...Was rough and they had no jungler so top Voli got destroyed by Teemo/Yorick. Their vayne was also pretty fed but my ult always seems to be able to catch enemies out when they're all hunched up together sitting in a warded bush. It's just great cc. She's not the best jungler (very bad ganks before 6 unless enemy is really overextending) , but I really like playing her. Lee Sin is probably a lot better in SoloQ though. And amumu does more damage, has amazing cc too and his ganks are good early on. He is banned every game though.

    What I like most about her: Can jump over bushes. Enemies will NEVER see it coming.
    Enemy team pushing midtower? Jump in from wraiths and ulti everyone!
    Bot and top lane there are some really nice spots for that too depending if you're blue or purple. She's not the best and needs some potions to survive the jungle, but I love her clear times and ability to jump walls ( Although I do facesmash into a wall 3-4 times every game...).]
    tl;dr -> I like Sejuani

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    One suggestion.. Move to DoTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuthixBoss1 View Post
    One suggestion.. Move to DoTA
    One suggestion, don't. DoTA isn't growing like people thought it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    One suggestion, don't. DoTA isn't growing like people thought it would.
    Ok thanks. I might try HoN though...

    Just got demoted again after losing game after game..I get promoted. Work my way up to 60 points.
    Next thing I know I'm back to 0 and get demoted haha....

    There's just so many toxic people in this game...
    Veigar support, last pick instalocking second jungler and then afking, the flaming midlaner who thinks he's pro because he has the most kills, but has been trading them 1:1...
    Then that last pick telling me (I was first pick) - I say jungle first. I jungle!!!!!! So I'm like okay...not wanting to risk another AFK/trollgame and he goes ahead and jungles with Fiora. Doesn't even give second..third..fourth..NOT even fifth blue to me (ryze) and we lose horribly with Teemo toplaning Cho Gath just..ARGHHHH
    And then there was that Kayle support who didn't put down a single ward all game.
    drives me crazy.
    THis all happened today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runehack123 View Post
    Ok thanks. I might try HoN though...

    Just got demoted again after losing game after game..I get promoted. Work my way up to 60 points.
    Next thing I know I'm back to 0 and get demoted haha....

    There's just so many toxic people in this game...
    Veigar support, last pick instalocking second jungler and then afking, the flaming midlaner who thinks he's pro because he has the most kills, but has been trading them 1:1...
    Then that last pick telling me (I was first pick) - I say jungle first. I jungle!!!!!! So I'm like okay...not wanting to risk another AFK/trollgame and he goes ahead and jungles with Fiora. Doesn't even give second..third..fourth..NOT even fifth blue to me (ryze) and we lose horribly with Teemo toplaning Cho Gath just..ARGHHHH
    And then there was that Kayle support who didn't put down a single ward all game.
    drives me crazy.
    THis all happened today.
    Tip I learnt from Kevin, Having a lose streak? Stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtrapsp View Post
    Tip I learnt from Kevin, Having a lose streak? Stop.
    In two possible manners.
    A)Stop playing.
    B)Stop losing.

    Seriously though. If your streak of losing is bad... Stop playing for at least a day. All sorts of reasons on that. Especially late night playing. I've definitely noticed that playing after midnight causes the worst players to come out. Also, I do not care how bad your team is, if your skill is legitimately multiple tiers higher than the people around you, you will be carrying them through it. I find a good mid is the most likely to accomplish this, but if you're that good, you should be accomplishing it at most any role - plenty of supports will carry bad teams through the exact same thing even. Thresh being a great example of exactly that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    In two possible manners.
    A)Stop playing.
    B)Stop losing.

    Seriously though. If your streak of losing is bad... Stop playing for at least a day. All sorts of reasons on that. Especially late night playing. I've definitely noticed that playing after midnight causes the worst players to come out. Also, I do not care how bad your team is, if your skill is legitimately multiple tiers higher than the people around you, you will be carrying them through it. I find a good mid is the most likely to accomplish this, but if you're that good, you should be accomplishing it at most any role - plenty of supports will carry bad teams through the exact same thing even. Thresh being a great example of exactly that.
    Bolded out the two main points there, I agree 100% Kevin (Especially as these are my two main roles ;P

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    The thing is, your not as good as you think you are. Even looking at the pictures of you "winning" you go negative 3/5 of the wins. And that is with your team most likely ahead in turrets and kills. One thing I would suggest, and a lot of my now higher ELO friends who were stuck in your position did was, stop blaming your team for all their loses and see what they were doing wrong, and eventually they got into diamond. Also in game it does not help to hell at people who are doing bad, most people know they are doing bad already and yelling at them just causes them to either do worse or quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I got this View Post
    The thing is, your not as good as you think you are. Even looking at the pictures of you "winning" you go negative 3/5 of the wins. And that is with your team most likely ahead in turrets and kills. One thing I would suggest, and a lot of my now higher ELO friends who were stuck in your position did was, stop blaming your team for all their loses and see what they were doing wrong, and eventually they got into diamond. Also in game it does not help to hell at people who are doing bad, most people know they are doing bad already and yelling at them just causes them to either do worse or quit.
    Just to let you know... what you're saying is complete bs.

    http://i.imgur.com/0UbMuUB.png

    He has a LOT of assists... you think it's all about KD? No.. its about getting the fundamental players fed

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    Don't get fed up about it, play for fun and don't care too much about winning. Believe me, the more you care and try, the more frustrated and mad you become

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    master one role.
    master one champ.
    try and beg for that role and champ, link lolking if you've been successful and you can prove.

    get diamond zz

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    ELO hell does not exist... its just that you are playing bad.

    In Bronze noone wants to support, junglers are generally bad in that they either gank too much or farm too much.

    Also in Bronze noone looks at the overall team composition.

    Do one of these well and you will get out of Bronze.. thats how I did it.

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    the elo system works as intended. There is no such thing as elo hell.
    That is the problem, thinking it is real. First step is to realize you belong at your current elo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seohyun View Post
    the elo system works as intended. There is no such thing as elo hell.
    That is the problem, thinking it is real. First step is to realize you belong at your current elo

    What if I want to be in diamond ELO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKN View Post
    What if I want to be in diamond ELO?
    start playing better u scrub

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKN View Post
    What if I want to be in diamond ELO?
    Well you could do it the easy way and buy an elo boost.

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