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    Default Masking Simba for poker botting.

    Suppose I was planning to run a Simba bot on PokerStars. Now, when I run pokerstars with prohibited software, they warn me that my software isn't allowed. So they have ways of knowing what is running in my background.
    How does a windows program know what programs and services I'm running? What else can they know? If I change simba's name iexplorer.exe, will they ever know it is not I explorer?

    I hope I don't have to run simba through a virtual machine.

    (I couldn't find an appropriate forum, please suggest where this thread could go)

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    Disguise('Google Chrome');

    or

    Disguise('Malwarebytes Anti-Malware');


    That might work but Task manager still shows simba has simba but it changes the name of the window

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    PokerStars client can do what ever they want when you installed it. Basically, it doesn't matter what's the title of the window, they still know what you are running.

    It's trivial to enumerate running processes in Windows platform and it's not that hard to find out if you've been injected with arbitrary libraries (hooked).

    E:

    Long time ago, I created a bot for Microgaming network by hooking their client. Worked beautifully for some time, but they started to add some tricky stuff in their client which made it quite hard. Namely their custom gfx drawing algorithms instead of gdi+, which they initially used.

    If you're interested, I still got a nice, super-fast hand evaluator and nice AI. It uses neural networks, which are evolved via genetic algorithm.

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    I wouldn't think simba is on their list. They are probably just detecting the way you are making simba interact with the client. Try using random coordinates and SRL mouse functions instead of jumping the mouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superuser View Post
    PokerStars client can do what ever they want when you installed it. Basically, it doesn't matter what's the title of the window, they still know what you are running.

    It's trivial to enumerate running processes in Windows platform and it's not that hard to find out if you've been injected with arbitrary libraries (hooked).

    E:

    Long time ago, I created a bot for Microgaming network by hooking their client. Worked beautifully for some time, but they started to add some tricky stuff in their client which made it quite hard. Namely their custom gfx drawing algorithms instead of gdi+, which they initially used.

    If you're interested, I still got a nice, super-fast hand evaluator and nice AI. It uses neural networks, which are evolved via genetic algorithm.
    I've read letters sent to botters, and they pretty much have a pretty intrusive access on your files and running processes. They can basically find out where is simba, how much it weighs probably even transfer it to them.
    Is there no way to hide simba from it? Can they have access to your mouse's driver? If they don't can you embed simba on it?
    There must be some way to hide simba.

    I'd be super interested in the hand eval and the AI's source. We can hold a dick hand eval measuring contest!
    Quote Originally Posted by weequ View Post
    I wouldn't think simba is on their list. They are probably just detecting the way you are making simba interact with the client. Try using random coordinates and SRL mouse functions instead of jumping the mouse.
    I meant to say, that since stars does notify when I use prohibited software (ICM), they know what I am using, in actuality they know a lot more. Haven't seriously botted on poker yet. If I go on stars, it's VM-o clock.

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    Run it sandboxed.

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