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    Default Banned, Spied On, Unbanned - Long Story Bro...Seriously

    Yesterday I went to collect the cash stack and start up one of my herb bots, and low and behold...I got the banhammer. I had been saying for a week I was gonna get on there and clear the cash, but had been putting it off. GF 300M I took the ban gracefully knowing I had it coming, no whining or crying or blaming bots. I didn't even appeal, because we all know how useless that process is anyway. Apparently the offense occurred in Nov 2013, which was exactly the time I was using PB to get his dungeoneering up for the scroll of cleansing. So I knew when and why, and there was nothing else to be said. RIP tiny soldier. That's the Banned part.

    So today, I'm running some dungeons on one of my other accounts to get him prepared for herb, and about 10 dungeons in what do I see? At the end of the dungeon one of the achievements is whoopwhoopwhoop. I'm thinking "WTF is that?!?" I have NEVER run a dungeon with another person, I always solo, so I'm well aware of what the achievements are at the end. This one obviously caught my eye. I hover it to see what it is and it says something to the effect of "Congratulations. You kept up with Mod Chris L and completed the dungeon!" I said "wait, what?" And then it hit me, he was invisible and following me through the dungeon checking to see if I was a bot!

    "Holy shit" I think to myself, "WTF do I do now"? Obviously I have to talk to him, right? I say "ever get the feeling you're being watched?", no response. About halfway through the dungeon I say "still here?", again no response. I then jumped in his FC and asked "you still in my dungeon?", no response. Added him to my friends list, and it says Offline. I figured I would try one more time and said "you must be invisibruuuu!!!" Still nothing, but I made myself laugh, which doesn't happen very often. At that point I decided to stop talking to myself and just play the game. If he's still watching, he'll know I'm legit. I'm playing through the RS client, and obviously acting human, so I figure no worries.

    However, the one thing that sticks in my mind is, they obviously have me flagged now because they're checking in on my other accounts. So what's a rational person to do? Keep botting of course! Don't change a bunch of your playing habits because then you basically admit you're botting and don't want to get caught. So that's what I'm doing. I had one of my other herb bots running the whole time. I kept checking on him to see if he had been logged off, because if he can see my noob in the dungeon, he can see my skiller at the bank and I was expecting any minute to see him logged off and banned, but it never came. That's the Spied On part.

    Now to make a long story even longer, here comes the kicker. So after 10 or 15 more dungeons, I'm getting bored. I decide I'm gonna check the account statuses of my main and my bot accounts just to be sure everything is cool and as it should be. Main, good. Herb bot, good. Dungeon Noob, good. Ok, everything is all good for now, I'm gonna go get something to eat. I'm not sure what made me check the banned bot again. Maybe I wanted to make sure (for the 8th time) that I was actually looking at the correct account, or maybe I wanted to pay my respects to a fallen soldier one last time. Whatever the reason, I certainly didn't expect to see what I saw. I expected to see a full ban meter, an expired ban from 2011, and two new offenses added yesterday. Instead I find a completely clean status screen! I took me a second to even process it because I had just logged in to 3 other accounts that looked exactly the same as this one. No warnings, no red ban lines, no previous offenses, nothing. So what's the first thing I do? I log out and log back in to make sure I'm looking at the right account. Yep, that's the right one. What's the second thing I do? Open Simba and hit Run. I disable SMART and take a quick look around the account. Skills appear to be ok, cash stack is what it should be, bank looks to be in order. I collect my GE orders so I have some supplies to run on, put everything where it needs to go and enable SMART and watch with teary eyes as my soldier gets right back to work doing what he does best. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in pixel form.

    So the moral of this story is, there isn't one. I was breaking the rules, got rightfully banned, and by some weird set of circumstances I was unbanned with no XP or wealth penalty. Maybe I was unbanned because Mod Chris L still watching me and I made him laugh, or maybe he decided to show me mercy because I wasn't whining, or maybe he just decided to unban me because he was having a good day. We'll never know for sure. Whatever the reason, I'm glad he did.

    I still haven't gotten the cash off that bot...



    tl;dr - Got banned, got followed around a dungeon by an invisible mod, then unbanned.

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    This should be made into a novel Grats on getting the account back.
    E: reminded me to look at all of my fallen bots. Still banned lol.
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    I was real curious about the spied on portion and definitely read through for that, but I'm sorry to say: that's actually a common 'achievement' to have 'Kept up with Mod_Chris_L': http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeoneering/Titles (check WoopWoopWoop!).

    Otherwise though, I am kinda curious how you managed to get unbanned on that other account :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
    I was real curious about the spied on portion and definitely read through for that, but I'm sorry to say: that's actually a common 'achievement' to have 'Kept up with Mod_Chris_L': http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeoneering/Titles (check WoopWoopWoop!).

    Otherwise though, I am kinda curious how you managed to get unbanned on that other account :P
    I figured it was an actual achievement, for when he actually plays with real players. But it's what caught my eye because he most certainly was NOT visible in the dungeon with me lol. I did figure woopwoopwoop would have been for any Mod in the dungeon, so I guess I can put his name back in the post since it's kinda obvious I'm talking about him.

    No idea why it got unbanned, but it sure made my day lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foundry View Post
    This should be made into a novel Grats on getting the account back.
    E: reminded me to look at all of my fallen bots. Still banned lol.
    Thanks man. Maybe you should run through a few dungeons and they'll be unbanned? lol

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    Woop wooo woop means you collected all resources on the critical path...absolutely nothing to do with "spying" or being watched by a hidden Jagex mod. Sorry to burst your bubble :/

    I assume the origin of the achievement was that during development of DG, Chris L played a floor exactly like that.
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    This is probably one of the best posts I have read regarding runescape.
    I'm still surprised people used dg bots around November of last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarity View Post
    Woop wooo woop means you collected all resources on the critical path...absolutely nothing to do with "spying" or being watched by a hidden Jagex mod. Sorry to burst your bubble :/

    I assume the origin of the achievement was that during development of DG, Chris L played a floor exactly like that.
    Do you have a source for this statement? The reason I ask is that I collect no resources, hardly ever. And never on my noob bots. My objective is to get 20k tokens as soon as possible so I'm not going to waste my time chopping trees and picking flowers. And rarely do I not complete the entire floor, only when I can't complete a level requirement, so the critical path part seems a bit off as well. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just getting conflicting information.

    The more I'm reading it sounds like it has to do with the time in which Mod Chris did it at some point. When I first read it I assumed it was for completing a dungeon with him. Perhaps my achievement just happened to coincide with being unbanned. The account was still banned this morning, I checked...several times. Literally less than 2 hrs after getting that achievement I was unbanned.

    The question now becomes, how did my account get unbanned if this is not what happened? Appeals never work, and we all know that so I never even submitted one. The fact that they would take a second look at my account on their own volition AND find it not guilty is not adding up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    This is probably one of the best posts I have read regarding runescape.
    I'm still surprised people used dg bots around November of last year.
    I had just returned to runescape after a long break, and assumed bots were working as well as they were when I left. (Post-nuke) Lost a good skiller account before I learned my lesson about PB.

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    I've gotten that title pretty often when doing solo smalls...
    It just means that you enter every room w/o hesitating (i.e. spam clicking on the door and hence entering it right after you unlock it)
    I'm not sure if a certain time limit to complete the dg is a requirement too.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with any jmod following you. Even if a jmod does follow you it makes no sense for Jagex to create an in-game hint to let you know you are being watched?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riwu View Post
    It has absolutely nothing to do with any jmod following you. Even if a jmod does follow you it makes no sense for Jagex to create an in-game hint to let you know you are being watched?
    I didn't think they had intentionally created a hint, I just assumed it was what you got if you were actually able to play with Mod Chris and the "hint" was just a holdover from that achievement if they were following you.

    It's not odd for people to be followed by invisible J-Mods, they're all over youtube. It just seemed to coincide with my ban so I connected the wrong dots. I'm willing to concede that the achievement had nothing to do with my ban/unban, it was just a strange correlation.

    So now I'm even more interested with why I was unbanned. Has anyone ever heard of someone getting unbanned without even trying? Especially when they actually deserved to be banned?

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    I doubt this has anything to do with 'invisible jmods'.
    Anyways, whatever the reason may be, I would take any valuables and cash off that ex-banned account and transfer it to a throwaway account/main and completely abandon/sell the ex-banned account.
    Also lay off the botting for the time being.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    I didn't think they had intentionally created a hint, I just assumed it was what you got if you were actually able to play with Mod Chris and the "hint" was just a holdover from that achievement if they were following you.

    It's not odd for people to be followed by invisible J-Mods, they're all over youtube. It just seemed to coincide with my ban so I connected the wrong dots. I'm willing to concede that the achievement had nothing to do with my ban/unban, it was just a strange correlation.

    So now I'm even more interested with why I was unbanned. Has anyone ever heard of someone getting unbanned without even trying? Especially when they actually deserved to be banned?

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    That was very entertaining to read. Thanks for posting it.

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    That is weird I don't understand why it would get unbanned but you're very lucky for whatever reason it happened.

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    I hate reading, but i took the time to read it. Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    Do you have a source for this statement? The reason I ask is that I collect no resources, hardly ever. And never on my noob bots. My objective is to get 20k tokens as soon as possible so I'm not going to waste my time chopping trees and picking flowers. And rarely do I not complete the entire floor, only when I can't complete a level requirement, so the critical path part seems a bit off as well. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just getting conflicting information.

    The more I'm reading it sounds like it has to do with the time in which Mod Chris did it at some point. When I first read it I assumed it was for completing a dungeon with him. Perhaps my achievement just happened to coincide with being unbanned. The account was still banned this morning, I checked...several times. Literally less than 2 hrs after getting that achievement I was unbanned.

    The question now becomes, how did my account get unbanned if this is not what happened? Appeals never work, and we all know that so I never even submitted one. The fact that they would take a second look at my account on their own volition AND find it not guilty is not adding up.



    I had just returned to runescape after a long break, and assumed bots were working as well as they were when I left. (Post-nuke) Lost a good skiller account before I learned my lesson about PB.
    Mod Chris L was not invisible in your dungeon. You get that achievement by completing the dungeon quick enough, and it has nothing to do with him being in the dungeon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green! View Post
    Mod Chris L was not invisible in your dungeon. You get that achievement by completing the dungeon quick enough, and it has nothing to do with him being in the dungeon...
    Yeah, we've pretty much covered that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner View Post
    Yeah, we've pretty much covered that...
    Not based on your previous post... ^^

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    Green! it looks like Clarity beat you to the punch in post 8, had a neat little table and everything!

    Also it looks like Gunner's last post was post 10 of him saying how he was mistaken and it was a crazy correlation, not the post 7 you quoted.

    As far as the OP, a pretty awesome story, if you watch some of the bot busting videos, it definitely looks like they do try to cut slack to people who play it cool, and throw down the ban hammer on liars and whiners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green! View Post
    Not based on your previous post... ^^
    You mean the previous post that said "It just seemed to coincide with my ban so I connected the wrong dots. I'm willing to concede that the achievement had nothing to do with my ban/unban, it was just a strange correlation."?

    That one?

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    if you feel jagex has flagged you, its most likely not your accounts, but the IP Address. i recommend changing it ASAP before botting anything else

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    This was a really fun read

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