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    Quote Originally Posted by rj View Post
    to be fair some of us are bashing genesis except constructive unlike the last thread
    I see what you did there

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodz View Post
    Can't we close this thread?
    All I see here is RiD fanboys praising Genesis...
    @BraK; @Justin; @Daniel;
    No need to close the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    No need to close the thread.
    okay bby <3

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    cool!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    Not to my knowledge. If they did then just about every bot would have exorbitant amounts of bans. If they do, I'm not aware of it.
    Ever considered that a vast amount of players bot? Banning all wouldn't be beneficial for their business plan? Jagex can't even deny that bots provide them with indirect revenue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    Well to be honest most RiD users don't really understand much about the technical side of things, and the staff are not chosen based on their technical knowledge, but on their helpfulness and their community management skills.
    Sounds a bit like exploitation. RiD isn't a technical community yet you throw all these fancy fabricated terms as a selling point. Also best if RiD chooses staff which cant question his work I’m guessing? Yup, checks out for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasi View Post
    Sounds a bit like exploitation. RiD isn't a technical community yet you throw all these fancy fabricated terms as a selling point. Also best if RiD chooses staff which cant question his work I’m guessing? Yup, checks out for me.
    It's not that he specifically chooses staff that aren't technical, as several of them are (including Usa, whom you may have heard of, as he's very well known in the botting industry, even since before many of us even started playing RS), but when you're a company, you hire people who possess the skills you require. It wouldn't make sense to hire a bunch of programmers if all you need is public relations staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    It's not that he specifically chooses staff that aren't technical, as several of them are (including Usa, whom you may have heard of, as he's very well known in the botting industry, even since before many of us even started playing RS), but when you're a company, you hire people who possess the skills you require. It wouldn't make sense to hire a bunch of programmers if all you need is public relations staff.
    Well this all comes down to your target audience? if you are targeting children with their mum's credit cards, sure you don't need have an understanding of computer science principles (technical). Just a few big words like 'Bio-metric' & 'Calibration'. But then your probably just need a parent friendly E-Cart.

    If the target audience incorporated some of the existing botting community, you would at least expect the Genesis PR Stunt Crew to have a technical vocab and understanding for the question thrown at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trent! View Post
    It's not that he specifically chooses staff that aren't technical, as several of them are (including Usa, whom you may have heard of, as he's very well known in the botting industry, even since before many of us even started playing RS), but when you're a company, you hire people who possess the skills you require. It wouldn't make sense to hire a bunch of programmers if all you need is public relations staff.
    That makes sense, I was unaware that they actually get paid for PR at RiD? So lets say the public wanted transparency on all these terms, biometrics and all that shit... How would PR handle that? I mean they aren't technically capable so it'd be pretty impossible without RiD himself telling them what to say - counter productive; I see redundancy in this.

    I'm also quite surprised that RiD is paying people - if anything i'd go as far to call BS on this although a friend suggested that RiD gave out blow-jobs as per payment, could this be true? Programmers come in the plenty around these parts, pretty sure they'd be better representatives. PR skills are jack shit if you don't know your product. When you're in a company you hire the best person you can for the job; not those who possess the skills.

    I can't say i have heard of Usa. Has anyone heard of Usa? What's the deal with Usa?

    Either way, everyone has doubts because you guys at RiD are sketchy as fuck. Can't really expect to promise a release for 2 years and then be completely locked off about your platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasi View Post
    That makes sense, I was unaware that they actually get paid for PR at RiD? So lets say the public wanted transparency on all these terms, biometrics and all that shit... How would PR handle that? I mean they aren't technically capable so it'd be pretty impossible without RiD himself telling them what to say - counter productive; I see redundancy in this.

    I'm also quite surprised that RiD is paying people - if anything i'd go as far to call BS on this although a friend suggested that RiD gave out blow-jobs as per payment, could this be true? Programmers come in the plenty around these parts, pretty sure they'd be better representatives. PR skills are jack shit if you don't know your product. When you're in a company you hire the best person you can for the job; not those who possess the skills.

    I can't say i have heard of Usa. Has anyone heard of Usa? What's the deal with Usa?

    Either way, everyone has doubts because you guys at RiD are sketchy as fuck. Can't really expect to promise a release for 2 years and then be completely locked off about your platform.
    USA is a SRL member here, admin on TRiBot and a huge joke around most of the botting communities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    USA is a SRL member here, admin on TRiBot and a huge joke around most of the botting communities.
    No idea who any of you people or USA are but it seems 'the joke' has you beat on all fronts there mate lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    No idea who any of you people or USA are but it seems 'the joke' has you beat on all fronts there mate lmao.
    Huh? What do you mean?
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    I will say those mouse movements look pretty sexy. Otherwise not impressed. We just would need some better mouse functions (if we don't already - just ignore me I haven't been around in ages). Don't suck me back in!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Huh? What do you mean?
    He's a RiD fan boy who think that RiD is the second coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    He's a RiD fan boy who think that RiD is the second coming.
    Ahh, that's what I was thinking, but it surprised me that somebody would think that RID/Genesis is at the point to where it has beaten SRL on all fronts when you are lucky to be able to make a simple bank standing script work for more than a few minutes with it.. Not to mention that you had to wait 2 years and spend $200+ in order to be able to make said bank standing script.. People make me wonder sometimes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Not to mention that you had to wait 2 years and spend $200+ in order to be able to make said bank standing script.. People make me wonder sometimes..
    Genesis is only in closed beta, unlimited/Lifetime VIP offers unlimited credits/hours for botting (Unlimited was also offered way back around 2010, and was valued at around 500$), Closed Beta Access is part of the current unlimited offer. Open Beta is happening soon.

    Point is, closed beta is just something extra, it's there to show RiD's appreciation. It isn't a "Buy now and get closed beta access" offer, though some new users are making it out to be. The entire point to Unlimited/LifeTime VIP is the unlimited hours/credits with a 72 hour daily botting cap, and RiD has repeatably said "Only buy if you plan on using Genisis for years to come"

    Not to mention a lot of the new Lifetime VIP/Unlimited Members all bought unlimited with the money they made by using RiD's previous bots.

    Overall, I can't stress enough that learning to script is so much more beneficial than using something like Genesis. After picking up Pascal/Lape I've now learned Java, and i'm sure picking up C++ won't be much of an issue for me. In the era we're in it can be extremely beneficial, and there's very little reason not learning Pascal/Lape, it's an extremely easy language to learn.

    So, if Genesis turns out to be much faster/patched up than it's current state, then i'm going to use it to do basic tasks, I bought Unlimited/VIP and i'm going to put it to use. Though I don't ever see Genesis doing something like Slayer or Dung, and IMHO I think RiD should have continued updating his bots, and releasing new ones.

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    Glad to see the post count go up on this thread finally, unfortunately some posts are extremely unhelpful. I started this to gain information that I would never get out of RiD himself.

    Bashing it helps nobody but RiD as the thread will descend into pettiness and be closed.

    Right now with the video I have seen it looks like a very unfriendly user interface.

    Would I be right in guessing that the initial set up is just writing the bits of code?
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    @BottingFTW;

    Creating an environment definitely has a learning curve but ultimately no, don't listen to what people are saying regarding it being the same as writing code because it's so far from it. Once it's done (remember it's not even a necessity to create an environment, you can just use the pre-made one) you just need to record yourself play and the bot will piece all the 'states' together automatically. Whether this will be the case or not when we get to the stages of creating more advanced bots, I don't really know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacky View Post
    In that case you are selectively reading certain posts, ignoring other posts. Leave the thread open. Closing it for any such reasons would be ridiculous.
    If you don't like the discussion, and talking going on here, then do yourself a favor: ignore this thread.
    was just in a bad mood, sorry for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinki View Post
    Genesis is only in closed beta, unlimited/Lifetime VIP offers unlimited credits/hours for botting (Unlimited was also offered way back around 2010, and was valued at around 500$), Closed Beta Access is part of the current unlimited offer. Open Beta is happening soon.

    Point is, closed beta is just something extra, it's there to show RiD's appreciation. It isn't a "Buy now and get closed beta access" offer, though some new users are making it out to be. The entire point to Unlimited/LifeTime VIP is the unlimited hours/credits with a 72 hour daily botting cap, and RiD has repeatably said "Only buy if you plan on using Genisis for years to come"

    Not to mention a lot of the new Lifetime VIP/Unlimited Members all bought unlimited with the money they made by using RiD's previous bots.

    Overall, I can't stress enough that learning to script is so much more beneficial than using something like Genesis. After picking up Pascal/Lape I've now learned Java, and i'm sure picking up C++ won't be much of an issue for me. In the era we're in it can be extremely beneficial, and there's very little reason not learning Pascal/Lape, it's an extremely easy language to learn.

    So, if Genesis turns out to be much faster/patched up than it's current state, then i'm going to use it to do basic tasks, I bought Unlimited/VIP and i'm going to put it to use. Though I don't ever see Genesis doing something like Slayer or Dung, and IMHO I think RiD should have continued updating his bots, and releasing new ones.
    $500 is a lot to spend on a bot though, I'm pretty sure you can buy a comped out account with some petty cash for like $500

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    Quote Originally Posted by rj View Post
    $500 is a lot to spend on a bot though, I'm pretty sure you can buy a comped out account with some petty cash for like $500
    To be fair back in 2010 a maxed account would be going for over $1k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    To be fair back in 2010 a maxed account would be going for over $1k
    you could still get an account with ample 99s for $500 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
    He's a RiD fan boy who think that RiD is the second coming.
    If you had bothered to pay attention in miss Dunbarr's reading classes you'd have realized I was talking about USA. I'll spit it out since you haven't worked it out yet, being an SRL member USA has beat you on this front (SRL), since you're just a junior. Tribot admin, I safely assumed you aren't one and was a mod at some point on RiD.

    Sometimes I think you guys are more obsessed with RiD than the fanboys lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal View Post
    If you had bothered to pay attention in miss Dunbarr's reading classes you'd have realized I was talking about USA. I'll spit it out since you haven't worked it out yet, being an SRL member USA has beat you on this front (SRL), since you're just a junior. Tribot admin, I safely assumed you aren't one and was a mod at some point on RiD.

    Sometimes I think you guys are more obsessed with RiD than the fanboys lmao.
    Honestly.. I don't know who the hell miss Dunbarr is, nor should i want too.. because as i quote "being an SRL member USA has beat you on this front (SRL)"; SRL stands for? SRL RESOURCE LIBRARY. Clearly Dunbarr assisted you with your reading skills or you would have taken note that the SRL platform - Is A Library Resource for Education.

    Secondly could you please direct me a project here at SRL that has be in the making for 4 or more years? You will find here as SRL that as a younger team start having their input a new include and library is written the capabilities and direction change from time to time SRL / SRL6 / OSR / OSRS-Reflection Aero/Lib, OGLib (apparently - I dont play rs3 =P) and now what everyone is really waiting for "PUMBA"!

    Most of the old-timers here have had there dash; with making code for games and have moved onto 'Much' bigger projects than trying to solve RiD Genesis, big Pink Elephant in the Room - "Mouse-Movements" which most of the botting community agrees has no connection to ban rates what so ever.

    I know this wasn't directed at me but Tribot!? or to use some admin title as credentials?? I am proud! to say i am all SRL; i have never used a script or bot besides SCAR -> Simba

    I wish i got to try genesis in its previous version; just for curiosity and see for myself why the hype has survived more than 4 years of pre-orders and set-backs.

    ** but then again how would i; i have never really venture far from SRL in terms on scripting, maybe loyalty and maybe i'm more interested in the production of sound/logical code, then using somebody elses i can't even peak into; and I never even heard of genesis until this post, but that also could be because i'm a hermit.

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    SRL stands for SRL Resource Library

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citrus View Post
    SRL stands for SRL Resource Library
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