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    Hello. I am right now a new member on this site but was registered on here several years ago when I was into runescape and botting (around the time when OSRS was live RS).

    At that time this bot, I believe it was called Simba then, ran pretty well but got stuck sometimes and was always bad with randoms. Is this still the case? Also the scripts I can access right now seem to be very few and most are pretty old. Is this also the case in the "VIP" area (idk what it is called)? Are the scripts there working good or do you have to constantly watch them so they dont make mistakes? Im talking about the RS3 section. Of course im not bashing the scripts here since I know its made and shared by the community for free and that is a really great thing.

    I have some experience with c++ and java programming and I maybe could get into scripting on here if everything is updated and working good, is this the case?

    The community on here seem to be friendly but it doesnt look to be much activity. Not many new threads and the posts come slowly, I was looking around and most seem to be written atleast 1 month ago and only some topics with a few new posts. I understand its for the best of the forum to value quality over quantity but its hard for us newcomers to stay here when the place looks half dead (no offense). Especially when you have to get postcount up to be able to access the scripts being maintained(?). Its pretty hard to post quality posts and stay on here when you really dont know what this place have to offer and when theres not much discussion going on. How are we supposed to stay on here and post quality posts in the same speed as the forum is moving without having access to what we came for or even knowing if it exists? Its hard to become part of this community because of this without posting shitposts.

    Im sorry for the long pointless post but im a bit confused and dont know how to approach these things, so I figured I should ask the community.

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    If you are worry about scripts not being updated and getting stuck, why not write the scripts yourself? That way u can ensure that you could fix any bugs and make sure it runs 24/7
    Even though the activity may seem low at times, you can see most help threads being answered promptly, so it's a good place for you to learn scripting and ask questions along the way! (and eventually creates the perfect scripts by urself)

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    Default Welcome back!

    For random handling, go here. It's a great list of what randoms can and cannot be handled by Simba.
    I can't say much else about OSRS as I don't do much botting there... If you want RS3 advice, I can say that most of the scripts run flawlessly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riwu View Post
    If you are worry about scripts not being updated and getting stuck, why not write the scripts yourself? That way u can ensure that you could fix any bugs and make sure it runs 24/7
    Even though the activity may seem low at times, you can see most help threads being answered promptly, so it's a good place for you to learn scripting and ask questions along the way! (and eventually creates the perfect scripts by urself)
    ^^^ Listen to this man. Make scripts so I don't have to <3

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    There are no randoms in RS3 so you don't need to worry about that. I have only recently started getting back into botting RS3 and I've used Ashaman's powerminer and the only issue I had was when SRL updated and one of the procedures was broken in the script but that was an easy fix! Usually if you post your problem on the forum someone will help you to get your script back up and running.

    I agree the community doesn't have as many threads etc but I guess it depends on the person. Personally I like coming on and not having to look through 9 pages of new content in case I've missed something.

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    Some of the not so updated scripts might be a little buggy at times. Some of them might have certain behaviour that you might dislike. If you know scripting, which you do given that you stated it yourself, you can simply fix it most of the time so long that the code is not too unreadable.

    Most functions (outdated ones) can be fixed by calling the correct functions. Certain portions just need a little rewriting and you are gold. Certain portions which may be a little buggy, just copy and paste from your old scripts certain sections of code and it will run. I have never looked at reflection based scripts but color based botting is quite "obvious" to me given that if anything goes wrong... I can "see" it because thats what the script is looking at as well. If the script cant see or find something, then it should be pretty obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Critalin View Post
    Hello. I am right now a new member on this site but was registered on here several years ago when I was into runescape and botting (around the time when OSRS was live RS).

    At that time this bot, I believe it was called Simba then, ran pretty well but got stuck sometimes and was always bad with randoms. Is this still the case? Also the scripts I can access right now seem to be very few and most are pretty old. Is this also the case in the "VIP" area (idk what it is called)? Are the scripts there working good or do you have to constantly watch them so they dont make mistakes? Im talking about the RS3 section. Of course im not bashing the scripts here since I know its made and shared by the community for free and that is a really great thing.

    I have some experience with c++ and java programming and I maybe could get into scripting on here if everything is updated and working good, is this the case?

    The community on here seem to be friendly but it doesnt look to be much activity. Not many new threads and the posts come slowly, I was looking around and most seem to be written atleast 1 month ago and only some topics with a few new posts. I understand its for the best of the forum to value quality over quantity but its hard for us newcomers to stay here when the place looks half dead (no offense). Especially when you have to get postcount up to be able to access the scripts being maintained(?). Its pretty hard to post quality posts and stay on here when you really dont know what this place have to offer and when theres not much discussion going on. How are we supposed to stay on here and post quality posts in the same speed as the forum is moving without having access to what we came for or even knowing if it exists? Its hard to become part of this community because of this without posting shitposts.

    Im sorry for the long pointless post but im a bit confused and dont know how to approach these things, so I figured I should ask the community.
    Quote Originally Posted by Critalin View Post
    At that time this bot, I believe it was called Simba then, ran pretty well but got stuck sometimes and was always bad with randoms.
    We've used Simba for the majority of the community's existence. Simba itself isn't really a bot though, it's just a program. Simba (program) + SRL (include) + SMART (optional "client" thingy) = bot.

    The reason it was historically "bad" with random events is because it's (usually) a color bot. It plays the game just like you do - by looking at the screen. Problem is, getting a script to recognize and complete 20+ random events is kind of hard, and not all of the detectors or solvers were always reliable.

    You won't need to worry about that anymore - random events were completely removed from RS3, and made optional (right click -> Dismiss) in OSRS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Critalin View Post
    I have some experience with c++ and java programming and I maybe could get into scripting on here if everything is updated and working good, is this the case?
    Prior programming experience will help a lot, afaik the syntax of Pascal (we use a derivative of that language here at SRL) is pretty similiar to most other languages.

    "Everything" in this community can encompass a whole lot of stuff. Here's a quick breakdown:
    1. Simba - the IDE and integrated interpreter. This was recently updated to revision 1100, which is good! Yay!
    2. SMART - the SMART Mininizing Autoing Resource Thing. This handy-dandy tool is completely optional, but allows you to auto inside a "client" so that Simba won't take over your real mouse.
    3. SRL-6 (RS3) - the sixth major revision of the SRL include, this is written in Lape and contains routines to interact with RS3 (color, currently at revision 1050)
    4. SRL-OSR (OSRS) - the official OSRS include, for the time being. Written in PascalScript, but a Lape version is expected to replace it in eventuality (color)
    5. AeroLib (OSRS) - Flight's include for OSRS, written in Lape. Many users prefer this over SRL-OSR (color).
    6. PascalScript - Reflection (OSRS) - the unofficial reflection include, written by the reflection team, for OSRS. PascalScript version.
    7. Lape - Reflection (OSRS) - the unofficial reflection include, written by the reflection team, for OSRS. Lape version.
    8. Lape - RS3/OSRS include (not completed yet) - An include, written in Lape, that will allow scripts to be written that work cross-game with little/no modification. Pretty sure Olly and slacky are the main devs. It's written in Lape and uses color.
    9. The scripts - too much variety to be explained. They can utilize any of the above components.

    None of the members of that list are currently broken in any way, as far as I know.

    (I may be a bit off on some of those, please correct me if that's the case!)


    Quote Originally Posted by Critalin View Post
    The community on here seem to be friendly but it doesnt look to be much activity. Not many new threads and the posts come slowly, I was looking around and most seem to be written atleast 1 month ago and only some topics with a few new posts.
    You're right. There's not a terrible amount of activity on the forum. That's because the primary function of this community is to learn, and better our skills through interaction with an environment we're familiar with (RS). A few 99s gained along the way won't hurt either.

    SRL doesn't cater to leechers, at all. This scares most of them away. There's a pretty decent selection of public scripts, but if a member joins and doesn't bother to contribute anything, they quickly get frustrated/bored and leave.
    We hold a "join to contribute, or don't join at all-" type attitude.

    Contribution needn't necessarily be done through scripting or developing - programming simply isn't for everybody. There are plenty of other ways to help the community out.

    So, yes, the forum isn't the most active in the RS scene. But that's because there's not a billion leechers constantly rifling through our scripts section, or posting "halp me pl0x!!" threads.

    What's posted here is what needs to be posted - to allow those who contribute to contribute more, and benefit from their contribution. It also enables those who aren't contributing yet to ask questions and learn from the older members.

    I understand its for the best of the forum to value quality over quantity but its hard for us newcomers to stay here when the place looks half dead (no offense).
    SRL can be kind of intimidating to newcomers, but once you jump the mental hurdle of a not-quite-lively exterior, the forum is bursting with activity. A lot of the discussion takes place on Skype or IRC.

    Color scripts don't break very often, so scripts might not seem like they're updated (they are). A lot of members here hardly play RS anymore (i.e. myself) and only touch their active scripts when there's a bug that needs fixing.

    Especially when you have to get postcount up to be able to access the scripts being maintained(?). Its pretty hard to post quality posts and stay on here when you really dont know what this place have to offer and when theres not much discussion going on. How are we supposed to stay on here and post quality posts in the same speed as the forum is moving without having access to what we came for or even knowing if it exists? Its hard to become part of this community because of this without posting shitposts.
    This is a bit of the way into the wrong mindset - the quality posts requirements aren't there to bar you from accessing better scripts, they exist to encourage contribution. If you truly wish to help the community, you won't find it hard to make your required posts (30 of them).

    If you're posting for the sake of posting (exception: NOTA), or solely to gain access to higher boards, SRL might not be the place for you.

    If, on the other hand, you're motivated and encouraged to remain with the community and become a functional component, staying won't be hard at all.







    Don't let any of this intimidate you - we're very welcoming at SRL. We're all working towards the same goal here, so hop on! And remember, you can ask any questions of any members (even me!) just drop us a PM if you're wondering about anything.
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    Yeah, so I have a question KeepBotting. I'm just starting back up again with botting because school has died down for a while, so I have more free time, but even last year I still don't really recognize the majority of this community. Is it more based around people developing their own scripts for personal uses, or is there some kind of hidden section of the forum for junior members+? The forum rules aren't really clear about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourule97 View Post
    Yeah, so I have a question KeepBotting. I'm just starting back up again with botting because school has died down for a while, so I have more free time, but even last year I still don't really recognize the majority of this community. Is it more based around people developing their own scripts for personal uses, or is there some kind of hidden section of the forum for junior members+? The forum rules aren't really clear about it.
    there's public scripts, jr member+ scripts, member+ scripts, & private scripts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourule97 View Post
    Yeah, so I have a question KeepBotting. I'm just starting back up again with botting because school has died down for a while, so I have more free time, but even last year I still don't really recognize the majority of this community. Is it more based around people developing their own scripts for personal uses, or is there some kind of hidden section of the forum for junior members+? The forum rules aren't really clear about it.
    For all intents and purposes, creating your own scripts for personal use is an intentional byproduct of being a part of the community.

    It's almost impossible to learn how to write scripts (and maybe even release a few) without accumulating some sort of "Unreleased" folder, containing scripts that you've decided not to release for whatever reason. This is a good thing! It means you spend less time asking others to write scripts for you, and more time left to your own devices; learning and creating scripts of your own.

    There are also hidden sections of the forums, for Junior Members and full Members, each of which gives access to an additional selection of scripts.
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    Lemme just share my experience. I came here with zero scripting knowledge and wanted an easy way to get a bot with supposedly low ban rates. I came here, leeched a few scripts off the public section. Some worked flawlessly, some decently, some... well not so, and some wouldn't even run.

    In my desperate attempt to use it, I started 'fixing' some of the scripts.

    Then i suddenly figured out hey! there is a hidden section supposedly for members and what not but the requirements to get in is fairly steep. I knew I wouldn't be able to get in in a million years so I was content with using the public scripts with minor modifications.

    After a while, I started writing some fairly simple scripts which could be accomplished with an auto clicker. Yes I was using Simba as a glorified auto click since that was the maximum of my scripting skills (or lack of) at that time. That would pretty much include making headless across and those simple 1, 2 click kind of crafting or fletching.

    Then as I wrote and wrote, I learned about the different aspects of writing the scripts. The tutorials helped alot. The few public scripts helped alot since you could literally see the code.

    After 3 weeks, I am pretty much writing my own scripts for my own use. I totally agree with the 'intentional byproduct' phrase. Other than some really complicated scripts which for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to do it, you can pretty much do simple scripts writing it like a glorified mouse clicker.

    After a while, I am not sure if I was botting so I could enjoy playing the game or was I 'playing' the game so that I could enjoy writing scripts.

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