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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    That video tho of the jmod banning at Castle Wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Garrett3 View Post
    Here's some guides for you:

    https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25431
    https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53807

    (Older Guide, still relevant though)
    https://villavu.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18527

    E: The problem with having guidelines for not getting banned is that no matter who you ask, there will be differences of opinion. Only Jagex knows what they ban for, so we can only suggest methods that have personally worked.

    I personally:

    Train account combat to 20-30
    Have non-default character look
    Limit continuous session time by using multiplayer
    Prefer botting in areas where no other people go (IE my evergreen script) to avoid being reported.
    two of my accounts got banned today (within 60 seconds of logging in) using your evergreen script.

    It's a great script, im in no way stating otherwise because it is the most flawless script ive used on villavu for rs3. None of these conditions were met except the last one. No trouble with the accounts for 2 months of hardcore botting.. anywhere from 8-18 hours a day. But it seemed to detect the client almost instantly from running from login

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliensexist View Post
    two of my accounts got banned today (within 60 seconds of logging in) using your evergreen script.

    It's a great script, im in no way stating otherwise because it is the most flawless script ive used on villavu for rs3. None of these conditions were met except the last one. No trouble with the accounts for 2 months of hardcore botting.. anywhere from 8-18 hours a day. But it seemed to detect the client almost instantly from running from login
    Its not the client fault. Even if you log in in browser you get same results Jagex just delays bans so you could actually see them and tries to hit botters psychologicaly by doing this. Last time like 2 months ago i used it seemed to have few big-ish(no critics, personal opinion since few places like selection of trees were in my eyes very much bot-like and banking got issues too) flaws atleast. Sure it was cause of bot behaviour not smart. Still 2 months is very decent for any low lvl goldfarming. Personally i average around 3-4 weeks with low lvl goldfarming. But still so many random there. May have get banned within 2days or work 6 months no bans using exactly same script. Maybe manual bans/reports makes that difference, not to mention infinity loops, they are automatic ban.

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    just logged onto my main... it's been banned as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliensexist View Post
    just logged onto my main... it's been banned as well.
    Did you use any bot on your main?

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    i dont know the why or how. but ive been botting with simba for about 3 weeks now doing 20+ hr runs changing scripts. I havent had a ban yet
    the account i run scripts on has been ban once for using another bot and was somehow unbanned without an appeal. so i have no clue what is going on with jagex and how they detect bots i do know that these kind of scripts are the safest by far. ive never had account be able to run for 20+ hours on a script with no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flight View Post
    I have been noticing a link between bans and running multiple accounts at once, and it doesn't have to be the same script. Most of the times I've had accounts banned it was while running two of them (again, not the same script).
    Bot watch probably watches more "thoroughly" when it sees multiple accounts on an IP.. I mean it's only practical to assume multiple accounts on an IP are a single person / programs running the accounts. The rare occasion of a library with multiple human users or someones house with multiple users is only getting rarer as people leave their house less & less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grats View Post
    Bot watch probably watches more "thoroughly" when it sees multiple accounts on an IP.. I mean it's only practical to assume multiple accounts on an IP are a single person / programs running the accounts. The rare occasion of a library with multiple human users or someones house with multiple users is only getting rarer as people leave their house less & less.
    Yeah I would assume that as well but I can see different cases in which multiple players from a single IP can be passed off as legitimate. However multiple accounts from the same machine, that would be much more suspicious IMO.

    Some examples would be a school/college network with students playing, people at home on a network, maybe dorms or libraries like you mentioned. Wifi hotspots, airports and hotels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msemtex View Post
    Hi guys,

    I had been running a private script for OSRS on one account for the past three weeks with no issues. Within 4 days of using the script on a second account at the same time, they were both banned.

    My main, which used the script a while ago, still remains unbanned and that one has membership.

    Has anyone else been banned today? Also, would getting members be a form of antiban? I have heard that bots which are members only get 14 day bans.
    Running the same script on several accounts (almost simultaneously) is most likely a horrible idea. This makes detecting bots extremely simple in a number of cases.

    Botwatch does multiple passes to detect bots (or so they say).
    Such algorithms usually works in a way alĂ  this: For every stage a metric is computed based on some data gather from the character, if the result of this check goes over some barrier the character is flagged for the next stage, at each stage the complexity of the tests will (normally) increase.. Once the last stage is reached there will likely be some very computational expensive tests.. if this (last) test yields true you will be banned.

    So for first stage even the slightest irregularity can send you to the next stage (players that doesn't talk, players behind IP where bots have recently been detected, extreme activity, sudden increase in activity, doing the same ting over and over again, etc).

    At the next stage somewhat more involving tests can be done: Say they compare the basic data gathered in the first stage to other accounts that has been "noticed" and to stored bot-profiles. They can also compare some basic characteristics both to other (noted) accounts (and stored bot-profiles) to see if there is some common behavior.
    All in all they will do a series of (simple) comparisons to both other flagged accounts, and bot-profiles (accounts that has prev been banned), there might also be some tests to see if the char is repeating the exact same task(s) (without ever/or very rarely deriving from the pattern), such a test can also be done in the first stage, but probably not as involved.. Once that stage is over you will pass over to a new stage that does even more, and even more involved checks etc.. Anyways I've gotten to my point now.

    So the point is: Your accounts was most likely sent up a few stages.. At this point the two accounts running the same script are compared to each other (as well as some other tests) and since they are in fact running the same script the behaviour of the two accounts will be nearly identical in all tests, so botwatch will quickly take both accounts to a higher/last stage in bot-evaluation process where some bad-ass tests are executed to verify if the character(s) are if fact bots.


    Keep in mind that much of this is purely speculation, the actual tests they do at each stage is unknown, the number of stages are also unknown... And this is outside my area of expertise, and I am very tired atm.

    The best antiban is to write the whole script so that it actually LOOKS human and ACTS human (to a degree). Some Wait(<random number>), a few hardcoded task executed every once in a while (usually after doing some exact task, so it's predictable) simply does NOT cut it, at least not if you plan on running several accounts using the same script.
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    Two of my noob accounts have been hit with the banhammer today. No scripts were ran on the accounts. (Reasonable names, clothing etc). Both were running on independent machines at the time of the ban.

    I used an AFK method (Attack a low level monster with auto retaliate off) to get through the trade limit.

    I used this method at the southern house in al karid with a couple of Spiders. However, other accounts of mine used this method in different areas, so that is a potential ban hot-spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msemtex View Post
    Two of my noob accounts have been hit with the banhammer today. No scripts were ran on the accounts. (Reasonable names, clothing etc). Both were running on independent machines at the time of the ban.

    I used an AFK method (Attack a low level monster with auto retaliate off) to get through the trade limit.

    I used this method at the southern house in al karid with a couple of Spiders. However, other accounts of mine used this method in different areas, so that is a potential ban hot-spot.
    How is this breaking any rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubeam View Post
    How is this breaking any rules?
    My thoughts exactly! This method still works at alternate places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msemtex View Post
    My thoughts exactly! This method still works at alternate places.
    Are those bans appealable though?

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    I was not Ban today :-)
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    I was not Ban today either :-)

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    No bans here, haven't received a ban in several months to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubeam View Post
    Are those bans appealable though?
    Not checked. I'll have a look now.
    EDIT: They received Macroing Major Bans. Can't appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taric View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taric View Post
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    I was banned today in OSRS, 2 day ban, went to watch game of thrones with my flatmate while I botted experiments.. came back after the episode - account disabled, lol.

    Probably won't login/bot again until I've moved, maybe with the new IP I'll decide to bot again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soyouz View Post
    I was banned today in OSRS, 2 day ban, went to watch game of thrones with my flatmate while I botted experiments.. came back after the episode - account disabled, lol.

    Probably won't login/bot again until I've moved, maybe with the new IP I'll decide to bot again.
    Just turn off your router for 10 mins. That should change your IP. Works every time for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msemtex View Post
    Just turn off your router for 10 mins. That should change your IP. Works every time for me.
    Depends on the ISP, some provide static IP which doesn't change your ip no matter what. Others offer dynamic IP, which is what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msemtex View Post
    Just turn off your router for 10 mins. That should change your IP. Works every time for me.
    I'm in student accommodation, so this is not a possibility.

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