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    Quote Originally Posted by rj View Post
    Republican candidates have been cut in half we should update

    Also this website doesn't factor in the fact that Hillary is a known lair(which would sway people to Sanders)
    What exactly do you mean by lair? jk trolled

    I'm honestly hoping people start liking Kasich since everyone else is even scarier than Hillary. At the least though, I would vote for even a complete incompetent like Ben Carson over Ted Cruz. Cruz really scares me. The rest of the candidates (even Trump) understand that they're pandering to their party; however, Cruz genuinely believes in his extremist views and I have no doubt that he'd do something outrageously dumb that will end up hurting everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    Cruz genuinely believes in his extremist views.
    Extremist views? I don't really think a neo-con is an extremist.

    He is just a guy who loves guns and god.

    I do, however, think he looks like he is plastic, possibly reptilian. He kind of has the look of someone who would get convicted for child molestation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    What exactly do you mean by lair? jk trolled

    I'm honestly hoping people start liking Kasich since everyone else is even scarier than Hillary. At the least though, I would vote for even a complete incompetent like Ben Carson over Ted Cruz. Cruz really scares me. The rest of the candidates (even Trump) understand that they're pandering to their party; however, Cruz genuinely believes in his extremist views and I have no doubt that he'd do something outrageously dumb that will end up hurting everyone.
    Kasich is the only reasonable Republican that is going to be able to work across the aisle. He's the only one who doesn't constantly whine about Obama(besides Carson) to take attention off himself. Too bad people would rather be entertained by Ted Cruz and Donald Trump trash talking each other so he probably won't get the nomination. Not a big fan of political youtube videos compiling things politicians say because they are usually one sided/take things out of context. But here is a video of Hillary lying for a solid 13 minutes



    I have no idea why Sanders isn't bringing up the email scandal or Benghazi during debates. That goes BEYOND personal attacks you see in the GOP debates, the fact that she lied about those things is a big f***ing deal. I don't see how people can respect Sanders for not bringing that up..

    "We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack — not a protest. Based on the information we saw today, we believe that the group that claimed responsibility for this was affiliated with al-Qaeda." Her exact words

    Not only did she ignore requests for security before the attack and during the attack, she then lied to the families of the deceased knowing fully well what happened. I don't feel like getting into the whole email scandal, you can google that if you want some more information (also some in the video)


    TL;DR Hillary Clinton is a proven lair and does not belong in the White House or really any part of the Government. If you're going to vote Democrat Hillary is not your person although I don't see how you can respect Sanders for not bringing this up. It's like he doesn't want to get the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel View Post
    Extremist views? I don't really think a neo-con is an extremist.

    He is just a guy who loves guns and god.

    I do, however, think he looks like he is plastic, possibly reptilian. He kind of has the look of someone who would get convicted for child molestation.
    Definitely extremist views. This is the guy who shut down the government (I think twice actually, god knows he's threatened it many more times) because Congress refused to repeal a bill that was never ever going to be repealed given the fact that not a single Democrat would vote for it. Pretty much every view he spouts is at the far end of the political spectrum. Both his extreme views and his love of brinksmanship extremist to me.

    What amazes me though is how, after the Republicans got absolutely annihilated in 2012, they truly seem to believe that the way to win a general election is to move further to the right with policies that are increasingly out-of-touch with the American people. If they did any sort of real polling like that Nate Silver guy, they'd realize exactly how idiotic they are for even entertaining this notion.

    The Hispanic population is growing at an alarming rate? Better say we're going to build a wall and call them rapists!

    There's massive concern over income inequality where (predictably) most people are unhappy that they are not enjoying the prosperity of the rich? Better boast about how we are going to lower the tax rates on the rich because they are clearly the real victims here!

    People are agitated at Wall Street? Better do campaign events with ultra-rich super PAC donors and businessmen and pledge to be their personal servants!

    There's outrage at gun violence with incidents resulting in the deaths of children every other week? Better parade around with the NRA and say that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" although the correct phrase would be "people with guns kill people."

    For the record, I don't tend to agree with the Democratic party (except on the importance of education of course), I'm not a fan of big government / entitlement / etc... I would like to vote for a Republican President; however, I just don't see it happening unless a reasonable, rational guy like Kasich is able to pull a miracle. If it's Bernie vs Trump, I probably won't even vote. It's sad to say; however, I'd pick Hillary any day of the week over any of Trump, Rubio, and Cruz in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    Definitely extremist views. This is the guy who shut down the government (I think twice actually, god knows he's threatened it many more times) because Congress refused to repeal a bill that was never ever going to be repealed given the fact that not a single Democrat would vote for it. Pretty much every view he spouts is at the far end of the political spectrum. Both his extreme views and his love of brinksmanship extremist to me.

    What amazes me though is how, after the Republicans got absolutely annihilated in 2012, they truly seem to believe that the way to win a general election is to move further to the right with policies that are increasingly out-of-touch with the American people. If they did any sort of real polling like that Nate Silver guy, they'd realize exactly how idiotic they are for even entertaining this notion.

    The Hispanic population is growing at an alarming rate? Better say we're going to build a wall and call them rapists!

    There's massive concern over income inequality where (predictably) most people are unhappy that they are not enjoying the prosperity of the rich? Better boast about how we are going to lower the tax rates on the rich because they are clearly the real victims here!

    People are agitated at Wall Street? Better do campaign events with ultra-rich super PAC donors and businessmen and pledge to be their personal servants!

    There's outrage at gun violence with incidents resulting in the deaths of children every other week? Better parade around with the NRA and say that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" although the correct phrase would be "people with guns kill people."

    For the record, I don't tend to agree with the Democratic party (except on the importance of education of course), I'm not a fan of big government / entitlement / etc... I would like to vote for a Republican President; however, I just don't see it happening unless a reasonable, rational guy like Kasich is able to pull a miracle. If it's Bernie vs Trump, I probably won't even vote. It's sad to say; however, I'd pick Hillary any day of the week over any of Trump, Rubio, and Cruz in a heartbeat.
    meh it's not like you can pin all the' corporate loving' on Republicans


    Remember the stimulus package? Democrats love to go on about greedy CEOs and how their paycheck is so much bigger than the little guy. Then they (and some republicans too) voted for a bill to bail out these failing companies. With tax payer money. Literally rewarding them for failing, that's not how a free market is supposed to work. The rest us would be fired if we did a bad job(even if it's out of our control) or our small business went under


    The whole anti gun thing is kind of getting annoying though. It's one thing to be for banning guns/backgroundchecks/whatever that's an opinion. But can we stop acting like mass shootings are a huge outbreak, just because they have been publicized more every since Columbine doesn't mean they are more commonplace and happening more often. I'm not saying they aren't a problem I'm just saying let's drop the media hype. Like seriously if we want to talk about gun violence in american lets address the fact that mass shooting make up a very small fraction of gun violence.

    IMO if democrats really cared about doing anything to get their legislation passed they would actually do a little research on what they are trying to control. Useless bills, such as ones that 'ban assault rifles' WHICH HAVE BEEN BASICALLY BANNED SINCE 1986(under a republican president). I mean the fact that what they think are assault rifles are used in less than 1% of gun crimes in the US, and that's what they are constantly trying to ban says something. Having somebody get up on stage and start using buzz words like "assault clip magazine ban" gives off the vibe to people you have no idea what you're talking about (which is true if you ever use those combination of words)

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_R View Post
    Definitely extremist views. This is the guy who shut down the government (I think twice actually, god knows he's threatened it many more times) because Congress refused to repeal a bill that was never ever going to be repealed given the fact that not a single Democrat would vote for it. Pretty much every view he spouts is at the far end of the political spectrum. Both his extreme views and his love of brinksmanship extremist to me.

    What amazes me though is how, after the Republicans got absolutely annihilated in 2012, they truly seem to believe that the way to win a general election is to move further to the right with policies that are increasingly out-of-touch with the American people. If they did any sort of real polling like that Nate Silver guy, they'd realize exactly how idiotic they are for even entertaining this notion.

    The Hispanic population is growing at an alarming rate? Better say we're going to build a wall and call them rapists!

    There's massive concern over income inequality where (predictably) most people are unhappy that they are not enjoying the prosperity of the rich? Better boast about how we are going to lower the tax rates on the rich because they are clearly the real victims here!

    People are agitated at Wall Street? Better do campaign events with ultra-rich super PAC donors and businessmen and pledge to be their personal servants!

    There's outrage at gun violence with incidents resulting in the deaths of children every other week? Better parade around with the NRA and say that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" although the correct phrase would be "people with guns kill people."

    For the record, I don't tend to agree with the Democratic party (except on the importance of education of course), I'm not a fan of big government / entitlement / etc... I would like to vote for a Republican President; however, I just don't see it happening unless a reasonable, rational guy like Kasich is able to pull a miracle. If it's Bernie vs Trump, I probably won't even vote. It's sad to say; however, I'd pick Hillary any day of the week over any of Trump, Rubio, and Cruz in a heartbeat.
    I find it funny how you would support Hillary over Bernie, you brought up the public disgust of wall street. Clinton is the biggest recipient of wall street money. Big banks don't invest huge amounts of money in a candidate unless they think they are going to get a return. Think about this, big business likes regulations because they are big, they can easily take the hit. Smaller business cannot take that hit. Regulations rid of competition.

    Also, "The Hispanic population is growing at an alarming rate? Better say we're going to build a wall and call them rapists! "

    Here is the quote, Also it should be noted I had to look quite a bit to find this in its actual form, not taken out of context.

    Quote Originally Posted by The America Greatener
    When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.
    Notice the word 'sends'. He isn't accusing Mexican people or even legal Mexican immigrants. He is accusing Mexican criminals that (according to trump)the Mexican government sends over the border illegally. But every single news station has been bashing him non-stop taking this quote completely out of context. A fun side note, that big money and ultra-rich own the news stations and certainly play a role in what is broadcasted.



    Lower taxes on the rich? How about we simplify the tax code so there isn't loopholes to exploit.

    If you're not a fan of big government don't, support big government (Kasich, Paul Ryan, Rubio, Clinton) and support the small government figures (Rand, Ron Paul, Goldwater). Unforunately cruz is for a smaller government but he is also slimy like Clinton tainted with the big money. Trump and Sanders are the only two candidates who talk against special interest money and also don't take special interest money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel View Post
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    I find it very hard to support anyone in the current field or government. Over the last 10~ years (I would say 8, but I'm pretty sure this trend started a little before Obama himself got elected) both parties have drifted dramatically far apart. Compromise is equivalent to "All heil ISIS" in the current discourse. That's the reason I'm more for people like Christie, Kasich, Jeb (if he didn't come off as extremely weak), and even Clinton (even though she appears disingenuous, I trust in her ability to actually do the job). It's also the reason I'm against Trump/Sanders/republican senators/Other hard liners.

    I did exaggerate some things in my post, but the spirit of what I claimed is not inaccurate. Trump hates (or at least appears to hate) / discriminates against non-whites. Gun violence is a serious problem that a few southern and western rich people are successfully making us all ignore because they're rich and own many politicians.

    The Republican party's message and tactics are literal dog shit (and sadly the Democrat's message doesn't resonate with me). Every single view that they regularly flaunt (aside from maybe a few economic issues that the moderates sometimes bring up) alienates large amounts of the population. Anti-abortion? Most people without white hair are trending towards either not caring or standing by a mother's right to choose. LGBT? Most people agree that the courts were right or that it's not their place to bar them from doing what they're doing, Republicans; however, are all loudly and gallantly promising to make being gay illegal again. Obamacare? They claim they're going to repeal it, it's clear that's never going to happen and it allows Democrats to portray Republicans as trying to spite Obama. Second Amendment, thump, thump, thump? This one I really don't get, whenever a poll is done on this issue it appears that at least two thirds of people support curtailing this right. Anyway, being the party who blamed the victims for not being armed in Paris/San Bernadino is not good for image either, who would've guessed. Whoever did the post-mortem on their loss in 2012 must either be subscribing to the Donkey Kong school of political strategy (chest-thumping, eating bananas, and ignoring the data) or be some sort of operative for the DNC.

    About Hillary, I honestly don't mind her being in the pocket of Wall Street. If anything, it makes her more palatable to me since it guarantees she isn't ever going to push socialist policies on the USA.

    Tl;dr: The villification of compromise and the Republican party having absolutely horrid political strategy are two things which make it difficult to truly believe in a candidate since I'm not naturally a democrat.

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    This isn't really surprising to me.
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    Bernie 98%

    this was interesting, some of the issues surprised me.
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    green party 94%

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