This is the first thing I heard about this KYAB thingy, havent tried it, I might try it but I dont know where to get it so, I dont know![]()
I am sticking with SCAR/SRL.
I am switching to SCAR/KYAB.
I will use both.
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This is the first thing I heard about this KYAB thingy, havent tried it, I might try it but I dont know where to get it so, I dont know![]()
Lol this topic is funny. It's obvious the Administrators in this website have expressed their discontent for KYAB, if the owners of KYAB want to keep any last piece of dignity they have left, they would and are moving it to their own private forum. I'm sure KYAB is an excellent bot and will attract many "users". But the fact is that the admins don't want it in SRL because they do not want to have it flooded with cheaters and rule breaking bots.
If you want to use KYAB ---> Go to their forum
If you want to use SRL/SCAR --> Stay here
I see no reason arguing about this, go where you need. No reason to put down each other's aspirations/hard work.
Its clear there a rift forming between the community, as seen with Solarwind and Wizzy. I think this topic should be locked since Fakawi has already made his statement.
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You definitely become more knowledgeable when you just SCAR script. With KYAB you no longer are forced to learn things such as arrays, TPointArrays, bruteforcing, and all the good stuff that could possibly universally help you. (Java, Delphi, ect...). If your a good scripter, SCAR/SRL is all the tools you would need to create a foine script. () However, I will be using KYAB, when I want to make a script much more quickly, or if I am in need of fast gp's.
I am glad KYAB and SRL have split. KYAB deserves it's own forum anyhow! :]
There's no need to dislike KYAB, more ways to auto, always a good thing!![]()
you still need arrays for KYAB. Tile[0][0].X:= and so on. I am all for anyones opinion. Im making an SRL script and a KYAB script. I think that we should still have KYAB on these forums, members only of course, for at least talking. Most members have used KYAB. I think making a seperate forum and having no talk about it is too far. I support everyone's ideas. And yes, KYAB, as solar has already mentioned, and I think Ram mentioned, depends on if anybody rubs him the wrong way, and we all need to "feed his ego". He has mentioned that if anybody gets him mad, bye bye KYAB, so I am staying with them both, because, when KYAB is gone, i want to be able to script still.
i think that there should still be kyab on these forums, but i also think its a good idea to focus the attention on kyab to the other forum. But the standards of people getting in to that forum should be very high so that people will still have to learn to script.
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First, I do not hate Solarwind, I just really doubt his trustworthyness.
I have my reasons, and some older members will probably have theirs too.
Although I have no doubt of any kind against BenLand100, I will never use KYAB, certainly not when Solarwind is in charge.
Please, stay on topic.
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Go SRL/SCAR.
Im angry at KYAB.
I had to vote use both. Theres just too many good srl scripts to not use it. Scar and srl has never gotten a character banned for me. I would never abandon something that is so dependable to cheat with and with so many talanted scripters.
KYAB of course as you all know is better than srl by itself. Its dependent on srl but the walking is just amazing. I was watching claws lummy mine today and it really blew me away with the alternate paths and the ore detection etc. But there is no KYAB without scar and srl.
I enjoy messing around with something new and testing it and watching it work. Your guys work on both sides really impresses me quite a bit. Srl is amazing and KYAB is as well. Both are big accomplishments at cheating because unlike bots you can actually get away with cheating.
I agree with keeping the communities split because srl does not need the influx of leechers that will come now that KYAB is now known to the public. Its much better off for them to regulate and deal with all the leeches that will be crawling on their own forums. This way srls application list doesnt overflow with false apps etc.
I really didnt think it needed to be put wide open to the world that KYAB existed either but its too late for that. It would have been better to keep it secretive because there is no doubt jagex can beat anything they want. Andrew is in the top 10 richest people in U.K. If he wants too win he will.
I dont think srl will ever die. Jagex has tried to stop scar and had you guys thinking when they made the colors shift on loading screens. But of course srl developers won that round too. Its a close community with intelligent members all around.
I can completely understand fakawis position because he saw another cheat destroy a community that was at its peak and thriving.
Things got off to a bad start with KYAB here really with arguments etc. and bad attitudes in general. I choose both because I like the idea of coexisting communitys each helping each other develop the best runescape cheating system ever made. Bad feelings and arguing accomplish nothing, its just gonna cause a bad divide in the communitys.
Its human nature to make something more simple and reliable. KYAB is that next step in the evolution of cheating. Just as scar divi was the evolution of scar itself, and how SRL was the evolution of all the includes ever made since scar was created. Its not simplifying srl in any way as its dependant on it and scar too. I think theres just practically alot of bad feelings over alot of previous threads that built to a head on the public release of this bot. If people would start respecting each other and keeping their emotions out of things and their posts this could develop into something powerfull.
I have expressed numerous times, that One of the biggest reasons I have to be active here, is the sense of community and family I feel here, Starting from the very top with Fakai and his ideals, filtering down through Boreas, Wizzy and many other that have expressed at great deal of kindness to me, and have helped me try to stay positive and want to give back to the community in every way I can.....
The second biggest appeal was Fawaki's personal motto and creed...."We do not use any illegal methods. We do not infringe any copyright, we do not use our knowledge about the java code, we do not break any laws.", although it is generally said, their is no honor amongst thieves, I definitely believe the contrary is to be said for this community....It's true, we are ALL cheaters, but I do not believe we are made from the same mold, as that of say Bank Robbers.....We are cheating in a video game, but I believe that most people here hold themselves and others in higher standards, as opposed to your common, run of the mill, thugs, who have no regard for civil authority or public respect.This is what sets us apart from the rest of the "cheat engines".
Much work has went into developing SCAR and SRL to make cheating easier for all of us, this work is maintained and provided for us "Free of Charge", so long as we all abide by the common place rules set forth here...This is my perception...First and foremost, respect your neighbor, although they may have different views and opinions from your own, you must always keep in mind, that WE ALL share a common interest, and to achieve this, we must be able to over look each other's character flaws, Realize, that no matter how insignificant it may seem, we can all learn something from one another....Secondly....Have a willingness to want to expand your own horizons...Keep an open mind, Hold your tongue long enough for your neighbor to express his views, Do not be so quick to criticize if you do not agree, and try and convey your feelings in a mature and rational way....Always easier said than done, this I realize..., but after your mind starts to grow, and you are able to see things from other people's point of view, then you are able to gain the knowledge, to apply better reasons to your problems, and make solutions for yourself that may have not been possible before. Lastly,with this, comes a willingness, to want to contribute to the community, without the hope of personal gain, in any form it may manifest it self, Fame or Fortune.To provide scripts,Test other peoples ,share your own knowledge, and contribute to the well being of the community, to help other people in their own plight to find wisdom, will only help yourself to grow.
As of recently, an Era has ended for me, as it has for many other's.Finally growing Old of the monotony and repetition of the game itself.I have always enjoyed playing RS, but I was not addicted to the Gold Pieces or the status in the game they provided, I was on my own personal quest, to gather resources, which I could use to increase the skills of my character, which in turn would allow me to make the game more enjoyable for my family. I do realize some people recognize that these Gold Pieces can be converted into Real Life money, and I have always frowned on this approach. Both at the people only driven to Auto for monetary gains, and also the people that had the disposable income to purchase gold pieces with real life currency. Only with hopes to boost their status in a video game.True, I am a cheater, but I still "earned" the gold pieces, by taking the time to create the accounts to make the resources with.This is just my observation, but I put it forth as a reason, that some people have a hard time understanding why they are frowned upon,for monetary gains being their sole motivation for autoing or scripting.
Like some many other people,the thrill and excitement ,of not only running a script, but creating your very own, which makes your character come to life, has been more fulfilling then any achievements in the game could have ever offered me.We have all endured much frustration, when in the beginning, we were unexperienced, and we tried in vain to get a script to perform as we want, but how Sweet the reward, when after hours...weeks and sometimes months of hard work, it all just "clicks" , and all the time spent, Is rewarded to us in an instant, when we finally achieve what we have been working on.This is the true great reward from scripting, and I believe this community is split into 3 distinct groups...First, the ones who auto/Script solely for monetary gain, Second, the ones that learn to script out of necessity, to provide themselves with resources for their characters..and 3rd, the ultimate evolution...The ones who script solely to be rewarded in making their ideas in their head, transformed into code that manipulates the mouse to perform these actions.I feel that most people viewing the free scripts section, fail to realize, is the only reason they are using the elite scripts, is that the creators, wish to be able to share their creations, in hopes they to may be able to realize joys that come from making a script for yourself.
I was around, lurking, many months ago, and have witnessed many changes in this community,I realize, that the majority of the users here, are in their early teens, and while at that age, as you are just coming into your own. You are forming your own opinions, developing your own style, and laying the groundwork for your own personal ideals, that will span the rest of your life.I have learned,that while something may not have seemed like a big issue to you, it may have had a ground breaking impact on someone else.What you may consider, "water under the bridge", may still be tumbling and churning just on the other side.We've all heard the age Old adages, "One Bad Apple Spoils the whole Bunch", "The Straw that Broke the Camels Back" and "2 Wrongs Don't Make a Right".....These have been around forever and will continue to be so, because they still convey meaning, that is applicable in our life....As with most bad memories, most of us would like to move on with life and pretend they didn't happen, but that all depends on which side of the fence you are standing on viewing the memory....Months ago, As was witnessed by this community, and upheaval of sorts began...where, rocks were tossed and glass was broken...many feelings were hurt, and not all of them have healed yet..It is also said "It takes 10 Rights, to Right a wrong"....If i may put it so Blatantly..."If You save someones life..You are a hero for 15 Minutes, If you Suck 1 D@#K, you're a C@^k $ucker the rest of your life"...It's human nature, to have a hard time letting go of the past, especially if you were harmed by one of your peers, someone you admired, respected and trusted.For many of us, these memories are still fresh in our minds, and the scars are still delicate to the touch.
I did make a comment in Regards to Solar yesterday, but I retracted it, because just as I had posted, Fakas locked the thread, I thought twice, and realized, that he would not be able to respond, also, at the same time, He realized that it would be in his best interest to make his own forums.I can not recall my exact words, but Solar's last words were "That he does not take Sh!t from anyone" .....I believe this has been his underlying problem for a long time now....I also stated, that I believe he had matured greatly in the past months, since the aforementioned incident, but by displaying this attitude, he was hindering his talents greatly.I also said something to the effect, that it appeared, he was trying to achieve some kind of recognition for his work...but by making that comment, we are all at his whim, and if he feels his ego is not being stroked enough, he could pull the plug on this at any time....I do wish that he is able to grow and mature, and able to look other people's views optimistically, but I have a also changed my view of him last night.....KYAB is his baby, although it may not be an Elite script, as scriptors, we must look at him in this way...Some people wish to be compensated for their time and abilities, in making both scripts and cheat engines that require you to pay for their use....I respect Solar, in that he has spent ,no doubt a great deal of time making this utility, and wishes to provide it free of charge to the community...As with everyone else, I still hold the past events in the back of my mind, and this leads me to question his motives now...Maybe he does wish to receive some Fame and Notoriety from this, and although his attitude is still short tempered and sharp tongued, he is still putting forth a lot of effort, to make sure this script is only used by people that SRL Forums deems worthy.....I have been personally reviewing some of the appliances there, and he is still maintaining a degree of respect, which ultimately points back in this direction..to this community, and its founders.
I personally have not used KYAB to auto with, I have tested a few scripts, logged in with it to gather tiles that may be of use to people in the future.I totally agree, that by using this utility, it is a form of taking the "easy way out", and it comes with its pros and cons...It is very well argued, that all of the hard work, that has went into all of the different types of walking has been rendered obsolete, when relying on KYAB solely, but this allows you to devote your time, to creating scripts, that were once, only but a dream.I personally enjoy the "Old School' approach, of using SCAR, the procedures and functions created only in it, to auto with.Several reasons for this, that have already been argued..Although we have been assured repeatedly, that is is undetectable, I have the well being of knowing, while using SCAR, I am sustained from being within the RS client, and any ramifications that could ever present themselves in the future, for any kind of copyright infringement and or detection. I have a sense of pride, in knowing that I, or the person's script I am using, devoted much time , energy and patience in creating a script, that relies solely on picking colors alone, and a great feeling of pride comes from this.However, as I stated, I do respect all the hard work that has went into KYAB, I will continue to offer assistance where I can, and continue to try and learn from it as much as possible...Knowledge is Power.....
Best wishes and Highest regard to Fakawi and Solar...
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Well said...definitely deserved Moderatorship
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Ram you should have just locked the topic after that post.
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Wow. All i could ever possibly say is that
I pray that EVERY person on this forum reads EVERY last word of Ram-Rune's Post.
And then reads it again.
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I did make a comment in Regards to Solar yesterday, but I retracted it, because just as I had posted, Fakas locked the thread, I thought twice, and realized, that he would not be able to respond, also, at the same time, He realized that it would be in his best interest to make his own forums.I can not recall my exact words, but Solar's last words were "That he does not take Sh!t from anyone" .....I believe this has been his underlying problem for a long time now....I also stated, that I believe he had matured greatly in the past months, since the aforementioned incident, but by displaying this attitude, he was hindering his talents greatly.I also said something to the effect, that it appeared, he was trying to achieve some kind of recognition for his work...but by making that comment, we are all at his whim, and if he feels his ego is not being stroked enough, he could pull the plug on this at any time....I do wish that he is able to grow and mature, and able to look other people's views optimistically, but I have a also changed my view of him last night.....KYAB is his baby, although it may not be an Elite script, as scriptors, we must look at him in this way...Some people wish to be compensated for their time and abilities, in making both scripts and cheat engines that require you to pay for their use....I respect Solar, in that he has spent ,no doubt a great deal of time making this utility, and wishes to provide it free of charge to the community...As with everyone else, I still hold the past events in the back of my mind, and this leads me to question his motives now...Maybe he does wish to receive some Fame and Notoriety from this, and although his attitude is still short tempered and sharp tongued, he is still putting forth a lot of effort, to make sure this script is only used by people that SRL Forums deems worthy.....I have been personally reviewing some of the appliances there, and he is still maintaining a degree of respect, which ultimately points back in this direction..to this community, and its founders.
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Ahahahhahahhhahhahhah OMFG I'm ROFLing IRL. Muhahhahhahhahha!!!
I think I can see where you're coming from. However, you have an inaccurate perception of my attitude. I'm not out to "stroke my ego" or have a bunch of noobs call me god. I don't give a shit to be honest. I'm only out to learn and that's why this project was started. I really don't need that shit from anyone, as I know the quality of KYAB already and the hours that Ben spent teaching me about this shit are countless. I really don't care if it gets used or not becuase you guys have only begun to scratch the surface of client hacking (acceptable since you're a colour botting community). You may not realize the power of such a bot, but that's ok, that's what the bot is out to do - teach you guys. Besides, there is no one on this forum to tell me that I have "matured" or not or judge me in any way whatsoever.
Note: the reason I don't take shit from anyone is that this is a petty internet discussion group. It is merely that and that only. I don't want to be stressing over some douche bag telling me that, oh "solar has matured" or "solar has changed". I mean, like, what the fuck. It's the damn INTERNET. WHO CARES ABOUT ALL THAT. Aren't we here to LEARN? I mean seriously!
BTW star, I don't want another one of your damn infraction shit in my fucking PM!
great, another ARGA or Aryan or Ibot for the leechers.
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