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    Default Apollo Moon Landing - Hoax?

    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...ax_accusations

    What do you guys think? I just watch a bit about it on the National Geographic Channel, and I was a little surprised. Why was the flag moving with the 'wind'? Why don't the pictures show any stars in the background? It's all too freaky

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    I actually used to be on the conspiracy side of this.

    Then I started thinking.

    WHY DO I WASTE TIME THINKING ABOUT STUPID THINGS THAT AREN'T GOING TO AFFECT ME?

    No offense to you, Jason.
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    It may not affect you, but it does affect your country, and will probably have something to do with the future of it.

    And if you don't waste time thinking about it, then why would you waste your time posting about it

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    It was all made in a Hollywood basement. Its all fake. We haven't gone anywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rubix View Post
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    you ought to listen to Mr. Klean...he's magical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason2gs View Post
    It may not affect you, but it does affect your country, and will probably have something to do with the future of it.

    And if you don't waste time thinking about it, then why would you waste your time posting about it
    Well, the thing is, I've thought about it for 5 years, and a simple post spanning three sentences doesn't BEGIN to touch that.

    Anyways, it really doesn't matter whether we've made it to the moon or not. Do you see any REAL scientific progress because of it? I don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.klean View Post
    It was all made in a Hollywood basement. Its all fake. We haven't gone anywhere.
    Fat lot of proof and explanation you have there.
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    It was not a hoax. If it was a hoax do you not think our arch enemy at the time would have conceded defeat. Russia would have been all over that.

    http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

    Go there for scientific facts to the half truths that the fox show revealed.
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    Eh, there's a lot of evidence both ways.
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    I think the page that justkidding provided pretty much proves that the landing was not faked...Just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordsaturn View Post
    I think the page that justkidding provided pretty much proves that the landing was not faked...Just my opinion though.
    What if I made a webpage on my site that had a lot of bullshit? Would you believe that too, because it's a website?

    Not saying that THAT one was bullshit, just asking.
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    Definitely not faked.

    http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/

    ^^ That site explains in excellent detail every reason why the landings weren't faked.

    Personally, I ask: why fake the moon landings? What do you have to gain from it?

    Answer that, and I'll listen to your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freyyr View Post
    Personally, I ask: why fake the moon landings? What do you have to gain from it?
    Maybe you're missing a whole section of history here. This was the Space Race that the U.S. was trying to win. Maybe they were trying to win international glory and recognition to be the first to reach the moon? Isn't that kind of obvious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Here View Post
    Maybe you're missing a whole section of history here. This was the Space Race that the U.S. was trying to win. Maybe they were trying to win international glory and recognition to be the first to reach the moon? Isn't that kind of obvious?
    There's no glory involved. The cold, hard truth is that they wanted a good delivery system for nuclear weapons, and the Space Race was simply a means to an end. I know a lot about this period. The Cold War, particularly nuclear response scenarios, is personal obsession of mine, and I've spent countless hours researching it.

    Nobody really won the Space Race - both sides got the technology required to develop ballistic missiles and to place early warning satellites in orbit. The moon was just propaganda overtime - there was no strategic advantage to be gained by holding the moon. No, by the time that those footprints had been made in the dust, the US Atlas missile and the Soviet R-7 (and soon after its more adaptable silo-launched successor the R-16) had been built and were on alert in their silos for ten years, and early warning satellites had been orbital and feeding their data groundside for almost as long.

    It's nice and romantic to think that the space race was made to benefit mankind, but it wasn't. It was a part of the cold war, designed to bolster confidence among the populace and inspire them in the days of nuclear war that seemed imminently on the horizon.

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    No? Are you sure that the "propaganda overtime" didn't do anything?

    And I don't believe in the Space Race as a "glorious" thing either. Funny thing many other people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Here View Post
    No? Are you sure that the "propaganda overtime" didn't do anything?

    And I don't believe in the Space Race as a "glorious" thing either. Funny thing many other people do.
    Let's look at it another way. The manpower involved in some way with the Apollo program was huge. You have hundreds of engineers, rocket scientists, physicists, chemists, and even biologists working on the project. Then you have training crews, simulator constructors, safety officers, and launchpad service crew. And don't forget the aeronautics contractors that built the boosters and materials for the spacecraft. Hell, even the janitor could be considered in some way involved. Personally, I'd get suspicious if the space center where I'm sweeping has suddenly been converted into a movie studio. Do you honestly think that they could keep something so big so quiet? Even if those countless people were sworn to secrecy, somebody at some point would leak. It's a simple fact of operational security.

    So, by the time they've hired all these people and bribed them to stay quiet, they could probably save money by just doing the moon landing for real and not in a studio, as you claim.

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    Ok. You have sufficiently proved your point.

    But then again, I was never arguing against you.
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