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    Quote Originally Posted by regecks View Post
    I haven't read the whole thread but, in regards to WT-Fakawi's comments regarding the flagging:

    Every single character in the game is flagged.
    Every single new character is flagged.
    Every single client actively records mouse positions (delayed at 50ms apart) to the servers.
    Every single client sends these positions (as long as there are more than 40) every mouse click.

    Whether they are actively analyzed, we do not know.
    As long as there are more than 40?

    40 different mouse pos's?

    Time for me to test this... I'll make a script to click on two different coords with 0, 0 randomness. See what I get

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    Would making a looping bot doing different loops each time would prevent banning?
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    sometimes even when after you report soemone you get a random everytime i report a default macro i get mysterious man well most of the time.
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    I tested to see if repitition would get me banned fast. I made a woodcutter that clicked in the same spot on the tree, then righclicked in my inventory wether there is a log there or not then clicks to drop a log. There was no random clicking spot, exactly the same over and over and moving extremely fast. I set the camera so when the tree is cut it will be clicking in the water and my character won't be walking.
    I made it to 62 woodcutting and never got banned

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    i created a dummie account and did all the things i thought would get me banned like powermining ,autofighters, ignoring randoms, not talking and i even had my friend report me just to see what it would take to get banned and i didnt so then i thought wtf so a few days later i started to kill hillys for a while and i buried a bbone bang i got banned all that and i dont even know why maybe they got to my report iono but hope this helps



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    The banning process is made so they will wait a few days -> a week so you won't be able to pinpoint what script got you banned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartzkid View Post
    The banning process is made so they will wait a few days -> a week so you won't be able to pinpoint what script got you banned
    This is entirely possible, this is was Valve does with VAC2 so people can't determine what exactly got them banned.

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    Well for my input..

    I've had one occasion I can remember, where I was running from draynor, to fally, past the chicken pens, and I got a random while running. someone saying "Hey! (name) I need your help!" or something. also, i've had randoms happen as SOON as I logged in on countless occasions. This wasnt like ok name and password, walk around blah blah ut random! It was like, Log into runescape, click the big Play Runescape! button, and then a random appears. I think it was Giles.

    I hate randoms. More then anything, ever.

    Just a thought.. is there some sort of way to make a java mask to cover the runescape screen, while SCAR is running, to block all mouse clicks and movements? Or would that mask all the Java input and make them more suspcious to as of why there's commands server side but not client.. I just that'd be kinda like how autorune worked, sending commands serverside, but that wouldent be the same case here.


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    the banning system is pure F*** in my opinion...

    they dont ban those 1000+ autoers with default clothing and are lvl 3

    but they ban my 2 mains that i have been working so hard on!??!

    wtf is jagex coming to!?!?

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    Yeah. They could march to south fally and ban 1k of autoers on the spot, but no, they'd rather ban our mains

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    I found a thread on RuneHQ on "How to spot autoers." Maybe we can use this to make our scripts better?

    Reliable Ways to spot an autoer:
    1. Keep an eye on the walk that they take to bank. Some Autoers can have 2 different alternating routes. If this is the case, keep a good view on the path(s) that they walk, and see if constantly they are the same.
    2. The level of an autoer is generally (Not always - Non-Combat Skill Totalers) level 3 or level 4. I am not saying this is always the case, however, people who use autoer programs are smart not to have their high leveled account on an autoer program, as this can get their main banned.
    3. Look for masses of people in the out of reach places. A good example is the Yew Trees near Draynor Castle. In my times of playing, I used to only see one or two people at most. Why? Because it is a spot of yew trees that are probably the most furthest away from a bank. Think of some other out of reach places, which are quite far away from a bank.
    4. If you suspect an autoer, and you are a player moderator, or know a player mod who is willing to come by, speak or get them to speak, as many autoers are programmed to log off when the Player Moderator speaks - (This is according to Aierwyn. If this is not true, please tell me). - This Has most probably been confirmed thanks to joe_scmoe68. I have see it with my own eyes - This is confirmed. Thank-You
    5. It is possible that some autoers react by running away when whacked with a rubber chicken (This is according to Sir Brendan - If this is not true, please reply)
    6. People who have autoer accounts generally tend to have multiple accounts running at once. When they do this, they generally take one username, for example, spretef (Just making up random names), and add numbers like 0001 to the end of it. This means, they have accounts named spretef0001,spretef0002 and so on. Seeing groups of these are most likely considered autoers.

    Unreliable Ways to spot an autoer:
    1. Many people say talking to a character who is leveling and they arent talking means that the character is automatically an autoer. Just because you talk, either, a) They have been Muted by a Player Moderator, b) They dont want to talk to you, c) They have you on their ignore list, or d) They private chat is turned off.
    2. People say that because somebody leveling on a high level tree with a low level axe (like bronze or iron) is automatically an autoer, because they are not using a rune or dragon axe. Maybe they cannot afford a rune axe, and are cutting the trees down to get their money towards one.
    3. One way TO NOT distinguish an autoer from others. If they are not wearing any armour, clothing etc. This does not mean they are an autoer. They may just not want to carry the extra weight around while running to bank.

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    I have only had 2 bans in my life and I macro all the time. I think you will find this interesting.

    Ok so I made a noob account called ***********, I used a feathers buyer that works by clicking coordinates for about 2 days straight. My main gave him around 500K for buying. I continued doing this for about a month. I got banned.

    So left my this 25 pure defence noob alone in the dark for 6 months. Then looking at my account list (about 20 account names and passwords for my macroing minions) I went back on and there I was. Unbanned. I still had a message on the account saying I had been perm banned and it was unapealable. But still the account stands

    The other Ban I got was for password scamming on my main.

    Lol, here's the chatlog.

    Gorpres:No
    **********:I byu ure sheld 250K
    Sumother: hYou prollu paswrd scam me
    **********: Yea man, don't do it. But even if he does get ur pass you can get it back cus
    **********:yui have a recovery question and bank pin.
    Sumother:
    <End of log>
    I appealed the ban saying:

    Hey Jagex, I'm pissed 'cause one of your noobie Moderators banned me for password scamming. WTF? Look at the chatlog you have under "Evidence" Nowhere did I ask for any passwords. "

    I was unbanned within 15 minutes.

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    I dunno if this helps. But If you download Cheat Engine and put a check on "Speed hack" then play runescape you can rotate the RS screen super fast, when you walk you just magically move forward 3 spaces every second. It speeds up a few other things on RS apart from animation too. I do this alot on my main and I have yet to be banned.

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    i heard somewhere that runescape puts programs on ur comp like spyware to see whats open (scar, autoing programs,etc.) and when u close rs it goes away im not sure if this is true if it is whouldnt it be illegal or in the policies or something idk thought it might help

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermormon View Post
    i heard somewhere that runescape puts programs on ur comp like spyware to see whats open (scar, autoing programs,etc.) and when u close rs it goes away im not sure if this is true if it is whouldnt it be illegal or in the policies or something idk thought it might help
    That'd sorta kinda...ehhh be illegal.

    All they can do is what they can do with java

    If java could just install stuff on our pc's like that, it wouldn't exist anymore (it's main purpose is security, among a few other things)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartzkid View Post
    That'd sorta kinda...ehhh be illegal.

    All they can do is what they can do with java

    If java could just install stuff on our pc's like that, it wouldn't exist anymore (it's main purpose is security, among a few other things)

    i know itd be illegal, but if they put "we will download stuff on your computer and delete when runescape is closed to detect rule breadking" in there terms of use or policy or something it could be legal right?

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    well heres my story.
    ive autoed for STRAIGHT like 72 hours last week at my friends with my main failed at least 16 randoms. 0 blackmarks?
    why is this?
    i DONT LOG OUT and log back in.
    people tell u to take a break every 30 minutes but no. if you go for like straight 24 hour sprints i bet you will get banned less thats my 2 cents

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    If you failed more than 1 random, that means you must have fixed it manually, which means your results are not valid. Also, you get banned a little while after getting caught, so you cant tell what got you banned. Thirdly, if it was a p2p account, they banned less. Wait a while and see if it's still not banned.

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    i checked though i have no blackmarks.

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    Wait a while,
    I'm kind of new to autoing, Autoing my pure up.

    I do think that things should be changed.
    We're not the ones who have 30 accounts all going at the same time, fishing sharks, then selling them for rs gp, and then selling that rs gp for real life money.
    THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE PERM BANNED/IP BLOCKED (if possible),

    I also think someoen should try to get statistics on someoen who does that, or, as someoen was talking about before, that chinese bot program. Use that and see how easily you get banned, maybe they've found something we havent.

    I also think our scripts should be more lifelike (just an idea, i'm not a scripter myself, i might start but..) Not that they're not already, Master scripters are doign an amazing job, but as JAGEX's programs are getting better, ours should too.
    Lets stay on top.

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    i like that chinese bot thing im sure one of use could get a job at on of the sites and find out what we need and make a few bucks in the process

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    In the short time that i have played runescape i have had no less than 25 (26?) accounts banned. Of course i don't actually keep track of how many there are because i don't feel like appealing them (it's useless). In addition to having all of these account banned they happened within 2 days of creation. Now you may be thinking that the reason that all these accounts were banned is because they were macroing non-stop (which they were), but the reason is because they broke rule 1. If nobody here knows, rule 1 is the infamous censor-ship rule. The only reason that i can think they may have been banned is because of their names, which people may or may not have reported, eg. Macro_B_O_T(0-9), Jaggex_H8er(0-9), etc. Now, i'm wondering if maybe my ip adress has been flagged or something? It is definitely unusualy for nearly thirty accounts to be banned in one week. Let me repeat that all of the acounts were banned for rule #1 not macroing. Can i ever create another account again without having it banned? Or is my ip adress permanently banned? If anyone has an explanation for this i would be happy to hear it.

    p.s. maybe the accounts from my ip get auto banned and the default reason is rule 1?

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    Nice it seems to be legit, i dont think I have been banned by scar. Only used starblasters powerskills and sl port sarim...One thing never to do is use a simple mouse recorder bad idea i learned the hard away haha
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    runecape is goin to hell lol

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    were gonna end up finding sumthin that will comunicate to the server like rsc, and rs2 will be shot down

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    Default Warning about overdeleting UIDs

    I have recently experimented with signed world hopping in combination with UID-deletion. I wish I hadnt, cause we lost three of our very dear Adamant Miners due to FAST SIGNED UID SWITCHING....

    I used the DeleteUID command from Divi, which is harmless in itself, but if your Players recieve over 15 unique UID's each hour, appearantly, that in itself is reason enough for Jagex to assume you are autoing. The script I used is pretty flawless, Addy hopping/banking, and all Players had clean records ( o blackmarks), so it couldnt have been the script. It's the switching of UID!!!! That one was new for me, too bad I had to find it out like that.....


    P.S.: We need a system that connects (associates) Players with a UID, to avoid UID switching and still enabling fast worldhopping.
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