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    We'd need someone to go to Jagex and rip a copy of their server code to figure out antibans. Or just simply hire a cracker to hack one of the servers. Maybe it's possible with directory jumping or XSS. Haven't tried, as it's illegal.

    But if we got a functioning, nonobfuscated, commented version of their code... LOL. I'd crack up so badly.

    Oh, and meanwhile: How about making a copy of the Jagex client in memory and analyzing it using a bayesian filter (everytime you get a random, WHAT happens on the software level). I know for sure that Jagex isn't allowed to record mouse movement or clicks, and uses event-based data to figure out where the mouse is. The key is packet editing!

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    well, my main got banned for rl purchase of rs currency. how..i dont know? when i got the money delivered i had it on my nub miner z neon z, and then used my sisters laptop to get the money off z neon z. they said i was caught and they had evidence but how can that put me to the money? my "sister" gave me the money. and z neon z got banned for it which i figured what would happen and is why i put the money on mcp. they say if u buy gp then u get banned 90%+ of the time. but there is a solution i do believe. buy the money opn a lvl 3 you made or w\e <--he gets banned for sure but trade the money to one of ur legit accounts or give it to a trusted friend then your friend gives it to you. then you trade it to another friend then he gives it back to you on a completely different guy, so the money has been through a lot of hands.

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    I know for sure that Jagex isn't allowed to record mouse movement or clicks
    err its been proven that they do? every 50ms or something.

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    I'm not sure about this, but some time ago I was at a friend's house and he was playing runescape. He was near the hobgob's yews I believe (near rimmington? Kinda having a blank lol), were people sometimes drop yew logs in a path leading the bots to hobdoom. Well, they were all level 3 and stuff, so he said they were macros and started reporting them all, with a 30 or 60 sec interval between each I think... Reports have some interval inbetween. So well, after a time, we saw randoms appearing to some of them we reported, in ORDER, but with some missing! So my theory is, that reporting someone dramatically increases the chances of them getting a random. And this is a true story, now whether it was pure coincidence or the fact the reports were made, I don't know...

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    So my theory is, that reporting someone dramatically increases the chances of them getting a random. And this is a true story, now whether it was pure coincidence or the fact the reports were made, I don't know...

    Reporting someone for macro alerts the jagex detection sytem to monitor that player "more closely" It does not send a report to jagex. Jagex never sees macro reports so dont think youll get mod for reporting them. And there is no false report for macros either.

    So yes you are right that it gave them more randoms. Thats what it does plus it monitors those players more closely than the average player whos not been reported. In their words if they monitored every player the same way it would use too much system resources. Thats the reason you want to blend in when your cheating. You dont wanna be reported.

    On the runescape forums if your a player mod theres a whole forum that other players cant see that things like this are discussed and jagex mods interact and discuss things with you. They dont give out any intimate details but just a vague idea of whats going on. They keep player mods in the blind too just give them a little bit of info but theres alot of intelligent people on the pmod forums who figure the stuff out though.
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    My guess is that if you get a random, and fail to do it, pmods are appointed to where you were. If a pmod talks to you, and you dont respond. You will get banned. Also, I bet if you get reported for macroing and you don't do a random, you will get banned. I have just recently checked all of my accounts for black marks. 0/10 for ALL!

    I also think that having mods sent to your area has to do with the mouse movements and how often you do the same things.


    Summary:
    What sets of baning:
    -Failed Randoms
    -Mods talking and no respond
    -Mouse movements
    -Repeating the same thing over and over
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    Quote Originally Posted by born2code View Post
    My guess is that if you get a random, and fail to do it, pmods are appointed to where you were. If a pmod talks to you, and you dont respond. You will get banned. Also, I bet if you get reported for macroing and you don't do a random, you will get banned. I have just recently checked all of my accounts for black marks. 0/10 for ALL!

    I also think that having mods sent to your area has to do with the mouse movements and how often you do the same things.


    Summary:
    What sets of baning:
    -Failed Randoms
    -Mods talking and no respond
    -Mouse movements
    -Repeating the same thing over and over
    No they dont appoint mods to an area. Mods are basically in game to mute offensive members or scammers that are causing serious problems. They are not really there to tackle marco abuse. But they are much more educated in macro abuse than the average players because the pmod forums.

    Mods play the game like everyone else and have no requirment to do anything but that. They just ask that you play the game as normal and report abuse as you see it. They take it upon themselves to tackle bots in groups quite often.
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    Hello. I used to be a fan of RuneScape for two years. It began to bore me and so I stopped playing it for real. Recently I began autoing. Then I found out about this site. Then I found this thread

    After reading quite a few posts I must tell you this: failed Random Events do not automatically trigger anything special. I would use a powerminer and I got a countless number of these annoying events. I just checked my offenses and I have 0.

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    Just curious, how long ago did you use this powerminer?

    They often wait 1-2 weeks before doing anything, that way, you can't pinpoint what it is that you did wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by born2code View Post
    My guess is that if you get a random, and fail to do it, pmods are appointed to where you were. If a pmod talks to you, and you dont respond. You will get banned.
    *Bursts out laughing*



    Like Justkidding said. Mods are only there to "keep the peace." They don't (well, they're not supposed to) go out hunting for abusers; they just keep an eye out for them, and mute when they can.

    They're not some secret Jagex-Spies. They're just normal, run-of-the-mill losers

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    well here is wat i know...

    repitition triggers randoms very fast back before i used scar i used an autobot thing with no anti randoms or antiban and i got randoms ever 5 min it seemed like.


    also wat i know is that it takes about 3 or 4 days to get banned ive actually tested this and its true so if u auto and notice the next day the script stinks you can just get everything off it and put it on a diff acc.

    what i do is after autoing i take everything of the acc and drop it to my main only leaveing wat it is i need to auto with such as a pic that way if i get banned i only wasted my time. Also im trying to become a p mod and if i do i will make a thread and tell u everything the p mods know that we dont and if anyone on here already is a p mod they need to start dishing out the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamoth95 View Post
    what i do is after autoing i take everything of the acc and drop it to my main
    Drop, as in drop trade? That right there is what will get you banned, mate. Never drop trade anything between accounts. It's much safer to multi-log. One account gets on signed, one on unsigned, and then you meet each other in game. Simple.

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    No actually ive gotten banned doing that ive found that drop trading is the only safe method i do it constantly havent gotten one acc banned ive been doing it for like 2 months

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    Did you delete your UIDs before logging your accounts in?

    Suit yourself, I guess, but just about everyone here will agree that multilogging is the safest way to transfer goods.

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    lol no i never deleted my uid didnt know i could until a few weeks ago. but anyways what i got banned for was buying money online even though i wasent they scaneed the trade and it looked like i was getting sometin for notin and jagex is stupid and automates everything nothing is humanly done anymore.

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    about the getting random part.
    ''to fast skill swithing''?

    this is one of those ''instand random'' tricks.
    have a litte fight with npc for like 15min. then take something you had as loot and high or low algh it. tada random. it works 100% when you use range save spotting.

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    I think this test has been made and provened.

    Spend 1 hour : Not doing anything. On one of your good players. a players without any blk marks. Count the randoms you get.

    And then spend the next hour on a player with 7-9 blk marks. not doing anything on the same place, count how many randoms he gets.

    The second player will have about 3 time more randoms then the first player...

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    Personly from what I have experienced Jagex bans on repetitive mouse movements/repeated errors made. So if i messed a script up just a little and clicked somewhere unique i got banned, I also believe that if your character does alot of moonwalking it triggers randoms and gets your account flagged.

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    Try this:

    1.Do anything where you don't need much inventory space(merchanting, alching etc.)
    2.Put 20 bones in your inventory.
    3.Bury a set of bones every 5 mins(try to be as exact as possible)

    The result?
    Maybe 3 out of 5 bones give you a random event, even on 100% legit accs(lol this also an easy way to get all the random items ).

    So I think that the randoms are often triggered by actions related to the items in your inventory, and how "bot-like" you are(for example burying bones exactly every 5 mins, without any random delays)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avaphi View Post
    look fakawi, If this is happening, and they are running our code through there systems, It is time for us to take action. We need more technology, Something to interact with scar at the java level... Kricheskoys hybrid. We need to start helping him test it, getting him whatever he needs to get it out asap. If they pass through our code, lets pass through theres. An Eye for an Eye. This has gone too far fawk, We will be resorting to lvl 3's again if we let this stand without taking some action.
    You need to bear in mind though that any Jagex employees can look at these forums and find out any circumvention ideas. So it is not wise to list them in public.

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    well heres what i just figured out you should always to before transfering stuff to another accont. It takes jagex about 5 days to ban you for macroing/buying money online and if they ban/give u a black mark they flag the items they found u macroing to get then they ban any acc that goes to instantly transfering stuff is now worth 10 black marks trust me i got banned on all my accs. So what u do is waith 5 or 6 days after macroing to see if u get banned or blackmarked and if u dont then drop trade it over trust me if your thinking well what if i get perm banned before i get it to my main then i just waisted my time then your wrong cuz its not worth it to have your main banned.

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    Well, i use to chop yews on this level 3 wc pure, and train my main at the same time, ie multiloggin before i discovered scar
    it wears pretty plain stuff and i rarely talk on it but i just checked it has zero black marks, i've multilogged on this acc for almost a year, now its 89 wc and still 3 combat

    and i have this fishing pure, which is level 10, i pay less attention to this when i multilogg and i've failed a couple random events (like getting teled to lumby by sandwich lady or one of those old man ones), but i checked and it still has no black marks. again i've played on this for a while (over 7 months)

    so i gues runescape can detect autos coz of the repetitive clicks, and perhaps the lack of talkin etc

    also its funny that someone thot i was an auto coz i was wearin random event clothing instead of stuff from holiday events (some other lvl 3 was wearing the chicken suit or something)
    that guy assumed that if i wore holiday event clothing then it must mean the charac's been around for longer and not an auto coz they get banned easily and don't last so long (general assumption by noobs)

    so perhaps it'd help to do holiday events and wear those clothes? then people would report less coz they won't think ur a macro

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    umm, black marks are not flags... you can have no blackmarsk and still have your account flaged for macoing activity... i think a man thing on watching my macro alot is walking. it walks, and waits for the flag to stop... i think this gets accounts banned fast...

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    The problem is really simple. How does a scar scripter implement strong anti-ban code into their script while allowing the script to retain its usefulness and efficiency? You have to make a compromise between safety and effectiveness. What's the use of a really safe script if it doesn't get results?

    Based on my experience, I think occasionally logging characters out (even though it's very simple, I know) is very important to not getting banned.

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    SCAR Code:
    Procedure LogOutIn;
    Begin
      Logout;
      Wait(40000+random(20000));
      Login;
    End;

    Like that? lol

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