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    I apologize...

    Dear SRL,

    Over the past few days, some stir has been aroused since the release of the SolarMiner script. This script uses the KYAB bot (from http://www.kyab.asssoft.org). There are a few people who have never particularly liked KYAB. No matter what anyone says, I know the real reason is because the bot was made by ME. In the start, it was a team effort between BenLand100 and I, but since the recent RS updates, a LOT had to be changed because many things have broken. All the coding has been changed and BenLand100 left the project (no he doesn't hate me, he has his own life to worry about). The only one maintaining the project now is ME.

    The reason that certain people on this forum do not like me is unknown. I am sorry for creating the stir that I did. And no matter what anyone thinks my intention was, let me strongly say that my purpose of scripting, writing countless tutorials and countless lines of code is to teach and learn. Learn and let learn. Dear SRL members, I ask you, why has "Master solarwind" created ImpWiki? Why has "that guy with a fat ego" written countless tutorials? Why has "this stupid dipshit" released all his work freely with all source code attached and licensed under the GNU GPL? Well, let me tell you all. It is because I want to learn and let learn. Many of you do not understand that it takes countless hours of MY free time and the free time of OTHERS who have helped contribute to bring you things like ImpWiki and KYAB. It hurts when someone moves a script that I and many other members from SRL and KYAB have worked on to the bbq pit. I could not believe this. Where does this hidden hate come from? What have I done to cause it? Whatever the answer may be, if I am truly at fault, I am genuinely sorry. These efforts come from my and others free time and we only want to help and contribute. I'm a 16 year old kid in high school with high marks and large ambitions. The last thing I want to do is fuck around and flame on an online discussion forum. It gets me nowhere in life. The reason I visit and contribute is because I love to teach and learn. I script in my free time, write Java code to constantly maintain and improve KYAB in my spare time and so on. Does this work really deserve such flaming?

    I agree that I have been kind of an ass in the past by making rude posts, flaming and what not. Totally my fault. Some of such posts were directed at people like WT-Fakawi, RAM_RUNE, BenLand and others. I am very sorry for such rude and ignorant posts. You guys are great and KYAB would not be where it is today without you guys. However, the buried frustration emerges from many months of constant torture from certain people such as StarBlaster100 and Wizzup. I mean no harm to these people at all. Even if I have been rude to them in the past, it was from retaliation out of frustration. I have cracked many versions of StarBlaster100's stress miner several times and threatened him that I was going to release it because I was frustrated at him (we were fighting for some reason). However, no matter how angry or frustrated I was, I did not release it because I knew they are good people at heart and have worked hard on their accomplishments. I know how it feels to have your work destroyed. That is why I did not release his miner. Now I ask him, does he know how I and other people feel when he so swiftly presses the delete topic or move topic button on a script release or a discussion on KYAB? I guess not. But no matter what, I am genuinely sorry for any trouble I have caused to anyone here.

    Also, many people think that my intention on releasing KYAB scripts here is to bring traffic to KYAB. This is simply not the case. I only post scripts and such to teach people, learn and get feedback on how to improve. KYAB is a bot that depends on SRL. No SRL = no KYAB. What people don't realize is that I love SRL, it's a great project and great community. I am simply not out to steal your members or whatever it may be. I just want to help and learn and contribute. However, it is obvious that this has caused some problems. So, again, I am genuinely sorry.

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    Solar, it's good to see that you do care about the community. I hope we can all just bury the hatchet(RAM ).

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    Lots of apologies from different people these days.

    Apology accepted. We don't 'hate' you, we just didn't like the way you used to act, flaming anyone who talked about iBot and that sort of thing. You seem to have matured alot though.
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    Yes he has.

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    Santa even though he is sorry we are sorry as well .

    remember we did mess with him as well.

    Apology accepted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Sniper View Post
    Santa even though he is sorry we are sorry as well .

    remember we did mess with him as well.

    Apology accepted
    lmao at the quote from RAM in sig and yes. Solar is not the only one at fault here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnaz0r View Post
    lmao at the quote from RAM in sig and yes.
    lol <3 Ram he is so spontaneous

    Quote Originally Posted by pwnaz0r View Post
    Solar is not the only one at fault here.
    Exactly
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    well when dark sniper agrees, we know its right . I think this thread should stay near the top, since the admins should see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnaz0r View Post
    well when dark sniper agrees, we know its right . I think this thread should stay near the top, since the admins should see this.
    you see

    im like Canada... I avoid wars (Take Offense People!!!!).

    I try not to ever go to one side of a topic , but I kinda threw myself into this one XD.
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    I'm not too sure what you're even apologising for to be honest. A little pit of flaming perhaps, but I think that's about it...

    It's all in the past now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp0rky View Post
    I'm not too sure what you're even apologising for to be honest. A little pit of flaming perhaps, but I think that's about it...

    It's all in the past now.
    yes, but not for most people(talking about it being in the past). Maybe you haven't seen but alot of the admins were mad at him .

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    Well I've always been standing in the sidelines, not taking sides, so I can't say apology accepted, seems there is nothing really to apologise for except infrequently making bad posts and a small attitude problem. I hope you don't take offence to that btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnaz0r View Post
    yes, but not for most people(talking about it being in the past). Maybe you haven't seen but alot of the admins were mad at him .
    past should not be brought up?


    were not trying to make everyone remember and go back to a war now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancakes View Post
    Well I've always been standing in the sidelines, not taking sides, so I can't say apology accepted, seems there is nothing really to apologise for except infrequently making bad posts and a small attitude problem. I hope you don't take offence to that btw.
    I think that is mainly what this is all about. Hopefully dev's will see it this way too.

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    I've always had respect for you. You're a very smart person, but have a terrible temper. This time though, I don't think it was your fault at all... People attacked you... for posting a KYAB script! (Right? Can't find the thread) That's just idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    I've always had respect for you. You're a very smart person, but have a terrible temper. This time though, I don't think it was your fault at all... People attacked you... for posting a KYAB script! (Right? Can't find the thread) That's just idiotic.
    That's because it was moved to the bbq pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullzeye95 View Post
    I've always had respect for you. You're a very smart person, but have a terrible temper. This time though, I don't think it was your fault at all... People attacked you... for posting a KYAB script! (Right? Can't find the thread) That's just idiotic.
    Actually, I don't have a terrible temper. I just don't like people spreading incorrect lies about and other people believing it. It just creates a noob chain.

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    Yes you did some bad things in the past, quite a way back now though happened like when I joined. I can understand that you may have flamed the admins so they may still dislike you but Startblaster please grow the <insert any cuss you wish to say here> up. You're a bleeding admin for christ's sake. You seem to act like one on everything bar when it has to do with Solar. Yes he may have done some bad things to you but it was a long time ago, i've even seen you deny that he cracked your script so if you don't think he did then why should you care and turn everything Solar does into bloody WWIII. TBH I think it just makes you look really immature and couldn't give a shit what he did to you, I can imagine quite a few others feel the same way. He posts a script and instead of doing the mature thing like closing the thread with a simple post saying "KYAB scripts not accepted here" you move it to the BBQ Pit. Remind me why you're an admin again?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkroxpunk View Post
    Yes you did some bad things in the past, quite a way back now though happened like when I joined. I can understand that you may have flamed the admins so they may still dislike you but Startblaster please grow the <insert any cuss you wish to say here> up. You're a bleeding admin for christ's sake. You seem to act like one on everything bar when it has to do with Solar. Yes he may have done some bad things to you but it was a long time ago, i've even seen you deny that he cracked your script so if you don't think he did then why should you care and turn everything Solar does into bloody WWIII. TBH I think it just makes you look really immature and couldn't give a shit what he did to you, I can imagine quite a few others feel the same way. He posts a script and instead of doing the mature thing like closing the thread with a simple post saying "KYAB scripts not accepted here" you move it to the BBQ Pit. Remind me why you're an admin again?!
    Is Starblaster meant to take that offensively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santa_Clause View Post
    Is Starblaster meant to take that offensively?
    what kind of a question is that? He can choose how he takes it, and is it really your business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkroxpunk View Post
    what kind of a question is that? He can choose how he takes it, and is it really your business?
    calm down man

    this thread dont need to go to BBQ pit.



    and if star takes offense since he is an admin it could become his problem(not likely)

    this thread is an apology not a hit out on starblaster.
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    Good post, solar!

    No offense anyone, but the SRL "paragraph thingie" on the frontpage is starting slowly to differ from the real.

    They are well above petty include wars, and they are all in one way or another committed to the project.
    Even that was originally about devs, this is not about devs, whole community, whole "SRL Thought".

    "How does "petty include war" differ from "petty community war"?

    Maybe the flames arent about a function, but its just as immature.

    Is it immature to say "Sorry, you're from KYAB, no yare script here plawkx", is it any less immature than saying "gtfo, we dont want you here!"?

    Its the same!

    Why couldnt instead be said "Sorry, but we removed KYAB scripts section from our forums, and now you have your own forums. Sorry if you have not heard that you should not post KYAB scripts here."? WHY?

    What if it was an attempt to get some peace here?

    When I finish my next script, it will definetly go also to KYAB forums, but no, they are not going to flame me "stoopid nub gtfo cant see tile walkz there plawkx!".

    I want answers.

    Not an answer like "KYAB and SRL forums do not belong together".

    I want a real answer.

    Not only repeating the question I asked, replacing the "?" with "." .

    Please, people, state me all the reasons you can think of.

    no no, dont include anything like "solar crakzed hias skript" or "past sucks" , "shit happens" OR anything like that, REAL REASONS.

    I am wondering why does a thing like this even has to be discussed?

    Where is the "Mature Approach"?

    No, he is not here today.


    Even if solar posted a KYAB script, EVEN IF he knew that it starts a flame war, EVEN IF he knew he should not, why not just leave it in all peace?

    If there comes ONE, ONE KYAB script and it wont be closed/ humiliated,
    do you think that your forums will flood of KYAB scripts that would rape pure SRL Scripts down the scripts section?

    And so what if solar would come to post a script here, knowing he starts a flame war, knowing its wrong, knowing all the shit about posting the KYAB script, BUT, here comes the thing my friends, what if he came to learn?

    What if he didnt come here as the usual solarwind, what if he came with his script which about only KYAB thing is the walking, and waiting till not mining etc, what if he simply wanted comments and improvements on his script?

    So simple.

    Shouldn't SRL offer the ideal SCAR/SRL scripting environment for anyone?

    Now, we can start the discussion

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    I hope you know solarwind that I was not 'assaulting' you, your attitude, KYAB or anything you might have ever done since I know little about that, I was assaulting, if you even want to call it like that, the script.

    It takes a brave and good hearted man to make such a sweet genuine apology. Totally accepted.

    I think I need to apologise to you too, but if you don't mind I'll won't make the post that long .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Sniper View Post
    calm down man

    this thread dont need to go to BBQ pit.



    and if star takes offense since he is an admin it could become his problem(not likely)

    this thread is an apology not a hit out on starblaster.
    sorry think i'm in a terrible mood today, seem to be striking out at a lot of people, but still what I said in my first post I still standby just wouldn't have said it in such a harsh fashion I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Sniper View Post
    you see

    im like Canada... I avoid wars (Take Offense People!!!!).

    I try not to ever go to one side of a topic , but I kinda threw myself into this one XD.
    OOOoo Canada!! Our home and native land..

    solar's from canada too btw

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