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    Im 13, going to be 14 in 21 days

    I know visual basic, some PHP and HTML, and learning C# .NET.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apolloiiix View Post
    I don't use Flash. I think it should only be used for animation. If you want to stimulate the interactivity of Flash a Web Developer in the Web 2 era should use HTML, XML, PHP, and JavaScript. XML's XMLHttpRequest object will allow you to call any Server script and receive its output which you can pour into any HTML object using JavaScript/HTML DOM. This allows you to do absolutely anything without reloading the client's browser. Its the future of the web.

    I'd say you'll find a huge amount of people, companies, and recruiting agencies looking for developers on Monster or Craigslist and all you have to do to get a job without a degree is finish a project demonstrating your capabilities, maybe even serveral. Let's just say hands down if you were the author of phpBB or some peice of excellent OpenSource technology you would be getting hired for a good paycheck.
    Can you recommend some books on getting started learning these things?
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    lol. Im 14, know pretty much nothing compared to all you guys. But, at least I'm smarter than my real life friends by a long shot =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolpie View Post
    Can you recommend some books on getting started learning these things?
    I would recommend http://www.w3schools.com/ If you learn and experiment with the HTML, XHTML, CSS, XML, JavaScript, HTML DOM, DHTML, PHP, & SQL sections you will get a good framework. You must also approach learning these things with patience and a love of understand them. It shouldn't be work but play. I don't recommend ASP.NET or Microsoft technologies because they are not cross-platform for the most part. Then you will want to install Apache server, with PHP and MySQL, you can use the documentation on each of their websites and download the products free to constuct your own server to test and build your applications locally. Its also good to understand them because you will be working with them.

    Basically all of those technologies I mentioned are client side, except PHP and your SQL database, which are server side. All of your client side technologies are molded into the Browser(Mozilla Firefox), and the server side are molded into the Server(Apache). The client side technologies operate on the clients computer, the server side technologies operate on the server.

    Also, you can download all of your books for free off websites like http://www.isohunt.com/, they are usually refered as eBooks. To select your books you can visit sites like Amazon and search "PHP" in the books section and sort by most popular. The best part is all of the technologies and all of the material is absolutely free! It just takes the dedication of time. In my experience the books are only good for theory, or for something you are having a very difficult time learning, as the books go far more into detail. There are references for all of the abilities of these technologies for free, if not by the author of the technology then a site like w3schools.com. Google will be your good friend in your career also. If you encounter an error in the script post it in Google, etc.

    PHP is not the most powerful language for the Web Developer though, but it is the best language for OpenSource and collaborative software. You will see thats why Wikipedia uses it and so does phpBB, etc. Because of its nature companies select it if Java is overkill, since PHP is cheaper. PHPs rival is ASP.NET, which only runs on Microsoft servers and is more powerful for using that platform exclusively, PHP runs on any platform though, so thats its strength. For enterprise applications in web development you will see them using Java on the server side, like eBay, since its closed source and only the developers must understand the code. Java is cross-platform and offers the most power of all server side languages.

    PHP and ASP jobs will be 45-80k, Java developers can make over 100k. The real jackpot is starting your own dot com like YouTube, Craigslist, Wikipedia, MySpace, Digg, etc. where the potential is millions or billions. Many of these are built by self taught programmers in their garages, all it takes is a great idea and the ability to create it. Many of the greatest intellectuals and ideas are created by self taught people.

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    HTML , CSS, PHP - since like 14

    tried to learn Java but went no where with that...

    now doing SRL and SCAR

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    I started learning SCAR when 12, (r0b0t z0mg you're 12 too? ) and couple days ago I turned 13.

    And I know Java, though small amount.

    I think the average of these forums is 14.

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    I gave up on web developing when I decided I wanted to hack the FBI.
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    I gave up on web developing when I decided I wanted to hack the FBI.
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    Umm does that mean you protected yourself from hacking the FBI or you didnt have time to learn WD because you had to learn ub3rl33th4x?

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    The bold... it hurts.

    Anyways, started actually getting into programming ~13 with SCAR. Knew a little bit of C++ when I was 12, but not much. Now I'm nearing 14, pretty fluent in SCAR, and learning Java. Knew a bit of HTML/CSS, but stopped for a while and forgot it.

    Yeah, and what some other guys said, once you know one programming language (OO, at least, but SCAR helps the understanding) you sort of know them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0b0t1 View Post
    I gave up on web developing when I decided I wanted to hack the FBI.
    To hack you must understand web development and programming extremely well though, as to break into a server over a network such as the internet you have to understand the languages and technologies the network uses, then you find and exploit its security flaws. Most servers communicate using technologies like Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc. As for understanding the operating system the server uses you will need to know C++, etc. As for the network itself, protocols like TCP/IP.

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    well i made own private server when i was like 12, ive trying to learn something about scipting here, but im still no good..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kik View Post
    The bold... it hurts.

    Anyways, started actually getting into programming ~13 with SCAR. Knew a little bit of C++ when I was 12, but not much. Now I'm nearing 14, pretty fluent in SCAR, and learning Java. Knew a bit of HTML/CSS, but stopped for a while and forgot it.

    Yeah, and what some other guys said, once you know one programming language (OO, at least, but SCAR helps the understanding) you sort of know them all.
    Yes, your right. Almost all languages use the same basic syntax, Thank Goodness, but technologies like PHP, C++, and Java also have huge libraries of functions || classes that must all be experimented, memorized, and understood to truly make them useful, or get hired. On the theory side, you need to understand things like OO, Data Structures, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vasu View Post
    well i made own private server when i was like 12, ive trying to learn something about scipting here, but im still no good..
    Yes, its not hard to start a server, you can even use packages like WAMP make installing Apache, MySQL, and PHP as easy as installing SCAR, but installing them manually can be a bit more difficult. What type of HTTP server did you install?

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    Quote Originally Posted by n3ss3s View Post
    I started learning SCAR when 12, (r0b0t z0mg you're 12 too? ) and couple days ago I turned 13.

    And I know Java, though small amount.

    I think the average of these forums is 14.
    well happy birthday

    i got into html pretty early, i was about 8. i just fiddled with it for years until i was about 11 when i started learning php. for about 2 years i stuck to php with the eventual javascript and css period. I learnt a very little bit of psp programming (quite fun actually) but gave up cus i dont have a psp to test it on. And then i found exactly what i needed to keep my brain occupied, a scripting community srl.

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    I was 8 when i started VB then at 10 or so started C++ now i can program most languages including C++, Html ,C#,VB, Assembly and a little bit of java.

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    ohh jeez....umm, basic when i was 9. Then for 11 years now Ive learned every language I could find a manual for.

    I like you apollllllloiiiiiiiix, youve got good views. PHP is easily my favorite language cause the function list is enormous with so much compatibility and the GD library, ffmpeg, the list goes on and on. Along with the best online manual I have ever seen, located convienently at php.net . Anyways, i hope to see some SCAR/SRL scripts outta ya

    anyways, if anyones lookin to get into web development, one word:

    Ajax

    I use it for every site I sell, and people are thrilled with it. Somebody already mentioned the XmlHTTPrequest in an earlier post, thats basically what ajax is.

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    Every language you can get a manual for? Man, don't learn another language or you might get EHS (Exploding head syndrome(Google exploding head sydrome on uncyclopedia))

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    i was 10 when i started scripting in Squig back then about 2-3 yrs ago it was the biggest thing around. SRL was kind of new about 1 yr ago i think..

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    I'm fifteen, started learning HTML/CSS when I was about... Eleven or so. My sister turned me on to Neopets, and I wanted to learn how to make my user page look cooler

    Neopets got boring, and my friend Hunter got me started on ScuneRape. I played that for about three years, then found this site. That started me on SCAR/Pascal, and I stuck with that for a while. I then learned that SCAR uses Pascal, and tried my hand at Delphi. I had it downloaded for a while, didn't really have any idea how to use it, and got rid of it. Downloaded it again a while ago, and I think I'm fairly good at it now.

    Started on Java with the help of Sean Greasley's Java tutorials, and a couple months ago, got membership at vtc.com for the Java tutorials. (Which I saw not that long ago that you can also get the same videos off several torrent sites... Though I doubt stolen curriculum would count as a credit :| [I'm homeschooled, by the way])

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    13-14 I dont count html as programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munk View Post
    ohh jeez....umm, basic when i was 9. Then for 11 years now Ive learned every language I could find a manual for.

    I like you apollllllloiiiiiiiix, youve got good views. PHP is easily my favorite language cause the function list is enormous with so much compatibility and the GD library, ffmpeg, the list goes on and on. Along with the best online manual I have ever seen, located convienently at php.net . Anyways, i hope to see some SCAR/SRL scripts outta ya

    anyways, if anyones lookin to get into web development, one word:

    Ajax

    I use it for every site I sell, and people are thrilled with it. Somebody already mentioned the XmlHTTPrequest in an earlier post, thats basically what ajax is.
    I'm working on something right now I'm finding a ton of bugs in other peoples scripts and even SRL. It makes me wonder if people even tested these scripts before they released them. It does seem like there are huge compatibility issues in the community, hopefully the revision system will solve the problem. I have noticed SRL4#3 doesn't run at all though for me.
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    13-14 I dont count html as programming.
    For the sake of simplicity I refer to it as programming language but markup language seems easier on my ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apolloiiix View Post
    I'm working on something right now I'm finding a ton of bugs in other peoples scripts and even SRL. It makes me wonder if people even tested these scripts before they released them.
    You don't even know. Not to generalize but most of the population here is just like omg scriptz lemme get so i can make moneyz. With the new installment of the SRL junior member rank there has been an outbreak of spam. Thankfully the admins have been doing a great job at keeping this system working. But most people (not all) are here to get what they want, and they don't care at all for other people. They finish the scripts so it looks like they did something, not that some of them have good intentions with it and are really trying to learn, but some others aren't.

    As for my story, i started programming in ti-basic at around 10. After that i decided i should learn vb which i did. Then that went ok until it died down after a while around age 12. The next year i started playing runescape. I got addicted to it and played all the way until last year ish. I got many scripts from numerous sites and found that i couldn't really get any to do what i needed. That's when i decided i should learn Scar. As of now i know scar,delphi,vb,html, and java ( somewhat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by apolloiiix View Post
    Yes, its not hard to start a server, you can even use packages like WAMP make installing Apache, MySQL, and PHP as easy as installing SCAR, but installing them manually can be a bit more difficult. What type of HTTP server did you install?
    By 'private server', I think he was referring to the runescape mock-ups that some people enjoy making.

    Used to mean something, nowadays though, it's gotten so easy that anyone who can understand English can make one.
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    im 14, but i tried to look into java coding, but it looked very foreign to me.
    if anyone is interested in helping me out a little, pm me?!?!

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    ive just started programming and stuff like useing scar im 13 now though

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