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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    Hehe IceFire when did I need Solars permission to talk about his site?

    and for the name calling "your own stupidity." doesn't sound too pleasing to me..

    Can you just not post here IceFire one last time I ask you not to please..

    If you do then you will just make the admins lock this and I will be forced to make a new thread and get banned for this ( I don't really care, I thought SRL was more mature than this).
    Maturity isn't being serious all the time, it's knowing when to be.
    How are we not being mature here? We have 2 different opinions. Just because we don't agree with you're opinion doesn't mean we're being immature. If that meant we were immature, you'd be just as immature as us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    Hugo and Icefire, discuss that on some Messenger program please.
    Back on topic...
    Back on what topic?

    There is nothing to be on topic about, this is for us to give KYAB a second chance. Quite frankly it does not deserve a second chance, at least yet anyways. Nothing has changed at all, why don't they come back when they fix their program? Because at the moment there are already 2 other threads and a sticky in just this section of the forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by JAD View Post
    How are we not being mature here? We have 2 different opinions. Just because we don't agree with you're opinion doesn't mean we're being immature. If that meant we were immature, you'd be just as immature as us...
    Agreed completly, it's almost like Hugolord is trying to say "don't post if you don't agree". Seriously come on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAD View Post
    How are we not being mature here? We have 2 different opinions. Just because we don't agree with you're opinion doesn't mean we're being immature. If that meant we were immature, you'd be just as immature as us...
    OffTopic: "Being immature is going offtopic all the time and calling people names and whatnot has happened at KYAB"

    Also I meants that IceFire was being immature.

    Anyway IceFire hugolrd@hotmail.com if you need me.

    OnTopic: What is exactly so bad about making scripting a little easier?

    when after that you can just develop other parts of the script?
    and no I made this thread to actually also gets users to visit KYAB ( people who didn't know about it)

    guys I've been with you for a while do you honestly think I want a fight with this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    OffTopic: "Being immature is going offtopic all the time and calling people names and whatnot has happened at KYAB"

    Also I meants that IceFire was being immature.

    Anyway IceFire hugolrd@hotmail.com if you need me.

    OnTopic: What is exactly so bad about making scripting a little easier?

    when after that you can just develop other parts of the script?
    and no I made this thread to actually also gets users to visit KYAB ( people who didn't know about it)
    Stop trying to push me out of this thread, my points are very clear and understandable, everyone here is acting mature even yourself (somewhat) so stop pulling the immature card.

    Maybe you haven't noticed but there is a big sticky posted by RAM called "KYAB".

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    JAD I don't think you're being immature at all.
    Have you TRIED out Kyab tho?

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    It makes scripting more efficient. No offense but Scar scripts fail easily, walking screws up big time a lot.

    With KYAB you can still make custom fast methods and challenge yourself, but even good scripters's scripts that I use suck with walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn2323 View Post
    It makes scripting more efficient. No offense but Scar scripts fail easily, walking screws up big time a lot.

    With KYAB you can still make custom fast methods and challenge yourself, but even good scripters's scripts that I use suck with walking.
    That's exactly what I mean, you guys should check out some of our scripts at KYAB

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn2323 View Post
    It makes scripting more efficient. No offense but Scar scripts fail easily, walking screws up big time a lot.

    With KYAB you can still make custom fast methods and challenge yourself, but even good scripters's scripts that I use suck with walking.
    Exactly, all you care about is your RS-GeePeez.

    If you're a good enough scripter you can make your script work just fine, other wise just reverting to taking the easier way just because it works better if you have no idea how to script correctly than your only reward is "pixel gold" but if you take the time to make something that works because of clever design then you will get an intellectual achievement and a better feeling of accomplishment as opposed to writing down some numbers from GetLocation or a path finder.

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    you are going offtopic again.. next one and I'll report it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    you are going offtopic again.. next one and I'll report it.
    What would you consider on topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisn2323 View Post
    It makes scripting more efficient. No offense but Scar scripts fail easily, walking screws up big time a lot.

    With KYAB you can still make custom fast methods and challenge yourself, but even good scripters's scripts that I use suck with walking.
    You probably use the wrong scripts then. Flawless walking isn't that hard in SCAR.



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    anything posted without your username being at the top and

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzup? View Post
    Hugo and Icefire, discuss that on some Messenger program please.
    Back on topic...
    IceFire do you have no respect? I am asking you.. no wait BEGGING you to NOT post here! You have been banned at KYAB for these exact same reasons man..

    dude pelase I want to discuss this topic with anyone but you.. just do NOT reply.. am I insulting you? would it be that hard not to reply just ignore this thread it is useless ok?

    just please don't reply man.. your only fighting on the internet just don't give it up.. I admin you are right and you are a GOD ok enough said? please don't reply..

    Ontopic everyone else now please?

    Replying to Thread The KYAB Issue.. @ 07:43 PM dont Ice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    anything posted without your username being at the top and



    IceFire do you have no respect? I am asking you.. no wait BEGGING you to NOT post here! You have been banned at KYAB for these exact same reasons man..

    dude pelase I want to discuss this topic with anyone but you.. just do NOT reply.. am I insulting you? would it be that hard not to reply just ignore this thread it is useless ok?

    just please don't reply man.. your only fighting on the internet just don't give it up.. I admin you are right and you are a GOD ok enough said? please don't reply..

    Ontopic everyone else now please?
    Your definition of on topic is where everyone either doesn't post or agrees almost exactly with what you say, same as your definition of maturity.

    I have responded to Wizzup?'s comment and he has not responded back, if anything you are the one trying to push a fight on me and go off topic when infact I'm trying to discuss with you the purpose and point of this thread when all you want to talk about is how I'm upsetting you.

    In the process you left out everything I've said that doesn't fit perfectly into your opinion.

    If you really want to keep this on topic, don't tell me not to post again.

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    Incorrect, anything I say you will share a negative response to.
    This thread is to come to an agreement/ conclusion.. not a fight..

    I know for a fact with you in it, it will only turns into a fight so again I ask of you not to post here, but wait let me guess you're going to reply back contradicting something I said or have not said and this "fight" will continue even longer.
    Wizzup you asked me not to turn this into a flame war, yet one user destroys it all..
    IceFire can you please just state ideas ONCE and be done with it?
    just once man..or we won't get anywhere.. If someone closes this I will just post again, I'm not gonna let one user destroy a perfectly friendly thread I did not post here for a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    Wizzup you asked me not to turn this into a flame war, yet one user destroys it all..
    If you do not respond on his posts there cannot be a flame war.



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    You're just adding more wood to the fire, Hugo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    If you really want to keep this on topic, don't tell me not to post again.
    That's all I'm going to saying regarding this.

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    My question: why are we fighting? What is there to fight about? That is not the spirit of SRL or KYAB. This thread is intended to raise awareness of a simple and fun to use bot. No one is forcing anyone to use it.

    Nor is this thread intended for advertising purposes. KYAB and all KYAB-related products are fully open source. Our forum is 100% ad-free. I don't want money. I don't want fame. None of us at KYAB do. We want to teach and help people learn SCAR and Java (mainly). I don't understand why so much tension must formulate out of a simple raise-awareness style thread. Are we committing a crime? No. KYAB is perfectly legal. All our acts are.

    Some of you really need to smarten up. As I have said before:


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    Quote Originally Posted by solarwind View Post
    My question: why are we fighting? What is there to fight about? That is not the spirit of SRL or KYAB. This thread is intended to raise awareness of a simple and fun to use bot. No one is forcing anyone to use it.

    Nor is this thread intended for advertising purposes. KYAB and all KYAB-related products are fully open source. Our forum is 100% ad-free. I don't want money. I don't want fame. None of us at KYAB do. We want to teach and help people learn SCAR and Java (mainly). I don't understand why so much tension must formulate out of a simple raise-awareness style thread. Are we committing a crime? No. KYAB is perfectly legal. All our acts are.

    Some of you really need to smarten up. As I have said before:

    There is already a big sticky called "KYAB" for the billionth time. This isn't raising any awareness. Maybe if this thread were about KYAB being updated or revamped or fixed it may make us aware of the update, but nothing has changed. The KYAB sticky is more than enough as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    There is already a big sticky called "KYAB" for the billionth time. This isn't raising any awareness.
    Doesn't matter. We are discussing it on a different level than your "big sticky".

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarwind View Post
    Doesn't matter. We are discussing it on a different level than your "big sticky".
    Discussing what, that your forum is dying?

    Big deal, I didn't see anyone from the website try to help out that wasn't already.

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    Ok, fine no more flame responding from me..

    anyway how do you guys feel about us learning some java?

    KYAB is the perfect place to do that and I'm sure some of you will agree with me that java is handy and a good language to learn no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugolord View Post
    Ok, fine no more flame responding from me..

    anyway how do you guys feel about us learning some java?

    KYAB is the perfect place to do that and I'm sure some of you will agree with me that java is handy and a good language to learn no?
    Ok, then go start some thread in the Java Programming section that discusses Java. Why do we still need this thread?

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    anyway how do you guys feel about us learning some java?

    KYAB is the perfect place to do that and I'm sure some of you will agree with me that java is handy and a good language to learn no?

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    There are two extremist sides to this issue. One saying that KYAB is the best thing that happened to SCAR and that there should be KYAB implemented into everything because it is that awesome. On the opposite side there are those who say that KYAB is merely taking away the challenge for real scripters...

    I find myself torn between the two.

    I do agree that KYAB definitely takes the challenge away when the main purpose of a script is walking. However, there are scripts whose main purpose is not to walk and bank. For example my Power Minotaur script is designed to kill minotaurs until out of food, then it will walk out of the stronghold and bank in varrock/walk back.

    I am not quite sure how one would go about RRW 'ing , DDTM'ing, or Symbol clicking there, but all I know is that it would be hell to script that. Not to mention it would probably be really unreliable. I dont want to waste my time writing walking procedures for a FIGHTING script when the purpose of the walking is to merely boost the performance of the script and to make the actions more human.

    KYAB is not just about the walking. The GetAnimation is a great tool to aid in almost any script. Knowing the moment that your player isnt mining or fighting gives the script that extra human-like sparkle to it that pure SCAR cant quite capture.

    I understand when people say that it will result in lazy scripting and people wont be able to script as well when they rely on it too much. I agree with that, but you have to see its usefulness. I dont understand why people have a hatred for a great asset to scripting. If you dont want to use it then that is your business...keep on writing great scripts and inspiring people to write great pure scar scripts...

    I dont agree with the shunning of KYAB, especially when it is a very effective and useful tool. I think people should give KYAB another chance instead of immediately saying that it is bad.
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