Precisely!
KYAB is not a MUST you may choose to and not to use it in your script.
Hardcore advanced scripters will probably not use it but even then there are some scripts that cannot be made with Scar without the help of KYAB, or it would take a very long time to write it..
It is an option and it will drastically increase our human-like procedures hell, it would enable us to solve the so called "Un-solvable randoms" if we wanted to!
Randoms are one of the biggest triggers of autoing when we log out and don't do them I think jagex may get somewhat suspicious think about it would be a great tool and not at all necessary only if one choose to use it!
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Gerauchert, I respect your experience and open mindedness you have portrayed in the text above. But what you need to understand is these people are not here to unite SRL and KYAB at all, they are here to advertise their forums (even though there is already a huge sticky in this section called "KYAB") so they might get some people to over to their forums because they are dying, fast, I'm talking 4-8 people online in a 24 hour period with rarely anything productive being accomplished.
You may ask what separates me from others who disagree with ideas of KYAB. I will tell you, I have personally atleast tried KYAB and given it a chance so I could make my own intellectual decision about whether or not I think it's something I or (us) for that matter should be used. I have witnessed more ignorance and immaturity on any other forum I have ever been on at KYAB.
Aside from all of this, I stayed with it for longer than most people did. After the first 5 days of KYAB splitting from SRL, the choas began when runescape updated June 26th 2007 and rendered KYAB as about as useful as a tool for a someone with out enough knowledge to create a fair script to make something that could actually work without learning anything new, but before that it was a revolutionary way to optimize everything you could do. I am afraid that KYAB that you think about is long gone along with its co-founder BenLand100.
You say that there is a "shunning of KYAB' by SRL, and I will agree with you, but at this point it turns out that it was for the best, the only thing I wish could of been different was that if more people had actually tried KYAB rather than rejecting it right away. However from what this has turned into, that shunning became a lucky guess.
But back on topic, there is no longer (or ever was) any point to this thread being posted here. It has been said before, I will say it again. KYAB is not wanted or needed here.
I admire your desperate attempts to anger hugolord and I, however you fail miserably.
We are not here to 'advertise' KYAB. Sure, you may think that 'spreading the word' or 'raising awareness' is advertising. But what have we to gain through advertising? You tell me, your majesty.
Absolutely nothing, there is no purpose to your forums and there has not been for a long time. At this point even if you had your website advertised all over the internet it wouldn't do you any good if there were no contents. In other words you may raise your unique IP hits but your returning IP hits will still stay the same until you actually do something to fix the problems there are.
So tell me again, why exactly was this thread posted again?
anyway..
I agree completely with gerauchert, like I said, what is so bad about us having a choice and making our scripts more human-like?
Fakawi once told on msn after I had a very serious discussing with him "Don't worry about it, we're all just cheaters"
Think about these wise words.. before I read them I was furious (with the topic we were discussing) yet after I read it I let go of my anger.. I realised we are all cheaters here, whether we like or not so why not unite?
We would give a choice for users and the more advanced scripters could use KYAB to their advantage to produce things like "un-solvable random" solvers, yes it is possible with scar but can anyone do it so far?can our greatest scripters truly solve all the randoms with scar? I think it would be very difficult, it would still be difficult with KYAB but more likely to happen.
The old computers used punch-cards (or w.e they were called) yet they developed more efficient ways of working with a computer, even tho it took away the challenge, there will always be negative sides to improvements..
but this is a choice that we could give users.. and an opportunity to become more efficient at that.
So why not look at the way KYAB could benefit all of us?
Although my viewpoints will be completely seen as being offtopic, so sorry for that.
As i haven't been on these boards for long i had to ask some peeps on msn about the KYAB issue, cause i didn't even know there was one. Anyways, after reading this thread i formed my opinion about it all. and left me with a question.
It takes away a big challenge of scripting that is true, i script cause i like the challenge so i won't be using it, just like i won't be using SS. And there lies my question, as of all that, KYAB gets "banned" from SRL, why not drawing the line further and get rid off SS also?
Not really I know some users who use SS and made they're scripts in SS.
and read the WHOLE thread (I know 70% of it is your arguing but reading it slowly you will see some people do agree, if only you would let other people share their views, but no).
OffTopic : Ice, take a break from arguing here and post your 1k thread.. no?
OnTopic now please no SS talk
Actually, I have to disagree with you Wizzup?, isn't SRL a help for to make it easier to script? By making SRL aren't you trying to make an easy to use script include that makes scripting easier to script for the younger members? Well that is what KYAB does, I know I haven't used SRL for just over a year now and it has probably changed drastically since I have left, but nevertheless it is still a help for SCAR which is what KYAB is.Originally Posted by Wizzup?
And also, most people keep their updaters private - for example me, almost nobody knows I have an ObjectWeb ASM updater.
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Currently Working on:
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No, SRL is here to keep us from pasting the same basic procedures and functions at the top of every script we use, it's also for anti-random purposes since not everyone can make their own box solver or PHP data base which records SRL stats.
Further more, why would you even want a Karajama death walk? Don't go with off with all the impossible unlikely stuff you could never use because no-one ever intends to use KYAB for just part of a script, they take full advantage of everything to make the script as easy as possible to make. If some one wants to make some crazy script that just has to use KYAB or it won't work chances are they are probably smart enough to find KYAB with out this thread or click on the big sticky that says "KYAB" and find it on their own.
@ joey yeah exactly, because SRL is a resource library to help you script, well KYAB is just an addon just like all the functions SRL has..It would just be an addon that I could choose to or not use.. Nobody forces me to use "MMouse" or "FindColor" they are just things to help me script more efficiently and as cheaters we all have one aim in common.. to make as flawless scripts as we can..no?
reported for offtopic/flamming/spamming and whatnot
Cool, way to abuse the report system there Hugolord. I'm sure the people that receive your report will be very happy.
Edit: I'll be gone for a little while, so in that time why don't you sit down and think up a good answer to as to why you posted this thread since your still avoiding that question.
Edit2: Here's the link incase you want to pretend like you don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.srl-forums.com/forum/show...3&postcount=55
I agree you will not use KYAB to make impossible scripts but hey, I've always wanted to make a Lesser demon fighter (that's where I got the death walk idea from) but I realized I could only get as far as draynor without the script getting stuck for one or another reason with KYAB I could have used it as a backup and continue with more important parts of my script also I would again have a choice to use or not to use KYAB, and I'm sure you would agree with me that accomplishing the solving of ALL randoms would be a terrific achievement/challengeand yes it would still require skill alot of it and you could focus on more important parts of your scripts, some scripts aren't really made for the walking but they must walk long distances.. here's where KYAb could come in handy as a backup..
quickly find some mistake/flaw in my post and reply with another contradiction
To everyone else: Try to stay ontopic![]()
I personally Wouldent mind having KYAB as a part of SRL. It would open the doors to many more efficient/flawless scripts. Besides KYAB will probably die if this continues and it would really be a shame to see something like this to go a waste.
I would rather work smart (with KYAB) then hard. And if there are so many people against KYAB that want to work for a challenge, dont have to use KYAB. I think it would only be for the good if KYAB was accepted into SRL
Exactly, those who don't want to use KYAB there isn't a problem in that they can just go on scripting like they script now and those of us who want to can use KYAB as a backup and even solve some randoms with it..
Anyway, why the hell does everyone get so tight when KYAB is mentioned. All it does is get the Animation, Motion and Tiles. Why on earth does that mean that the person who mentions it should get the hell beaten out of them. I don't see how that can make it so much easier to script if it only does three things. Could someone please explain how it makes scripting to in KIND English.
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find me a good walking/banking script and ill try it. hell even edgeville yewcutters mess up.
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