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    and another point ( brought up in my science class ) energy can't be eliminated and can't be created( by human means for both of these ). The question I would ask an evolutionist would be how do you think it got here. No a better question would be HOW ELSE could it have gotten here?

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    You could ask the same thing about God, how did he come into existence? Now I have a subscription a the magazine, "Popular Science" And in this issue, they talked about "Plasma Gasification". The articles basically about how people are starting to use plasma gasification to "vaporize" trash.
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    The entire thing takes up about as much space as a two-car
    garage, surprisingly compact for a machine that can consume any type of waste-from dirty diapers to chemical weapons-by annihilating toxic materials in a process as old as the universe it self. Called plasma gasification, it works a little like the big bang, only backward (you get nothing from something.) Inside a sealed vessel made of stainless steel and filled with a stable gas-either pure nitrogen or, as in this case, ordinary air-a 650-volt current passing between two electrodes rips electrons from the air, converting the gas to plasma. Current flows continuously through this newly formed plasma, creating a field of extremely intense energy very much like lightning. The radiant energy of the plasma arc is so powerful, it disintegrates trash into it's constituent elements by tearing apart molecular bonds. The system is capable of breaking down pretty much anything except nuclear waste, the isotopes of which are indestructible.
    Well, that quote explains quite a lot. And may hold the reason of your question.
    Quote Originally Posted by PopSci
    I've watched Lynch operate the converter for nearly an hour, and I'm still stunned to see no smoke, no flames, no ash, no pollution of any kind.
    Reinforcing the "something to nothing"

    Well, may explain some stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwnaz0r View Post
    and another point ( brought up in my science class ) energy can't be eliminated and can't be created( by human means for both of these ). The question I would ask an evolutionist would be how do you think it got here. No a better question would be HOW ELSE could it have gotten here?
    Nuclear reaction
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    Well the first post can be xplained pretty easily. This is the opposite of the big bang thus able to happen. Plus the energy does not dissapear nor does the article say it does. God could have been in existance because If he does exisist, He is all powerful. Energy and apes (lol) are not.


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    Nuclear reaction
    lol?

    Where would you get the things to make a nuclear reaction? That requires energy to do. Ever heard the phrase it takes money to make money? Well it takes energy to make energy.

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    This has absolutely nothing to do with what my point is. Any ways this world is not perfect and those drugs would not give you a perfectly pleasurable experience, due to the many side affects to drugs, I could google and list all those but I would rather get off of this subject.. Please look at my statement from an unbiased perspective! What I am trying to state is that if God did create this world then why is it necessary to even have pain. Also think that if God created this world then he created all those emotions that you did mention like love etc etc... Why not (coming from God's view) just create the perfect emotions?!? No need for hate and pain.. Just love, peace and happiness! When reading this think about God as the All Powerful!
    What would be the point of living if there was nothing to spice our lives up (pain hate stuff like that). It would be great for a few years, but then it would get boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey321 View Post
    What would be the point of living if there was nothing to spice our lives up (pain hate stuff like that). It would be great for a few years, but then it would get boring.
    I agree that with out pain hate and those other effects this world would be boring but....
    Your not thinking of it from the perspective of a god capable of creating anything any way he wants with the effects and emotions that he wants it to have! If this is what is belived of god then I am asking: Why not create a perfect world where pain is not necessary to make things fun or pleasuring. Expand your thinking! Anything is possible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whales View Post
    I agree that with out pain hate and those other effects this world would be boring but....
    Your not thinking of it from the perspective of a god capable of creating anything any way he wants with the effects and emotions that he wants it to have! If this is what is belived of god then I am asking: Why not create a perfect world where pain is not necessary to make things fun or pleasuring. Expand your thinking! Anything is possible!
    Not necessarily true, anyways! Why dwell on the paste of what already is?

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    Not necessarily true? Whats not necessarily true? That god could do this? Please explain..
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    Pretty off-topic...But just saying, I'm in Mont Treblanc, Montreal, Canada for the week. So I'll re-join the discussion when I get home!

    Sorry for the off-topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whales View Post
    I agree that with out pain hate and those other effects this world would be boring but....
    Your not thinking of it from the perspective of a god capable of creating anything any way he wants with the effects and emotions that he wants it to have! If this is what is belived of god then I am asking: Why not create a perfect world where pain is not necessary to make things fun or pleasuring. Expand your thinking! Anything is possible!
    God you really don't know the story do you? I really suggest you read it. I hate when people say that(was just browsing through).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant Squirrle View Post
    evolved how else would all animals have the same BASIC structure (mammals and organs) sure some have different functions and some use organs differently but its all the same basic layout
    because they have the same fucking designer... don't you think it is strange that all cars have the same basic structure? they must have fucking evolved from little pieces of scrap metal, right?

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    The 'evolved' from the first car. They all have the same basic components (hybrids etc excluded). The have different features for different environments and markets.

    If god is the designer, then he designed sea cucumbers and fungi too, which are completely different from mammals. Don't even try to argue on this, you can go ahead and believe what you want, but don't try explaining your beliefs, because you will just fall flat.

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    [Note]I'm not really sure how to word this, but I'll give it a shot [/Note]

    Yeah, I agree with Boreas. Think about this, every single factory in the world uses an assembly line, automated or manually operated. The first assembly line was used by Ford to make cars, hiring un-trained workers that just put a bolt in a machine repeatedly. It proved far more effiecient and cheap then hiring trained workers to make and install a whole engine by themselves.

    Others then used this assembly line because, "They get more bang for their buck". So by your reasoning, Ford now becomes Almighty, and assembly lines become cars...?

    [Note]I lost myself on that one... At least I know I got a good point in there. Hehe [/Note]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boreas View Post
    The 'evolved' from the first car. They all have the same basic components (hybrids etc excluded). The have different features for different environments and markets.

    If god is the designer, then he designed sea cucumbers and fungi too, which are completely different from mammals. Don't even try to argue on this, you can go ahead and believe what you want, but don't try explaining your beliefs, because you will just fall flat.
    sorry, i thought i was an evolutionist that brought up this same design thing? (did i hear someone's argument just fall flat?)

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    Huh? If you're saying you're an evolutionist, then you were arguing for a creationist belief, so moot point.

    Quote Originally Posted by warbeak1245 View Post
    because they have the same fucking designer... don't you think it is strange that all cars have the same basic structure? they must have fucking evolved from little pieces of scrap metal, right?

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    read the FIRST post in this thread fool... what does it say? and who is it by? there ya go...

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    lardmaster...

    Quote Originally Posted by warbeak1245 View Post
    i was an evolutionist that brought up this same design thing?
    You're not making any sense lol. You are saying you are on one side, but arguing for the other. Whichever side you are arguing for is the only one that counts.

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    Everyone, THINK ..

    If you were evolved out of bacteria, then how did those bacteria came in the universum?
    If the almighty God made us, then who made HIM?

    If you stay thinking about it, you know there is no begin..


    And No.. Bacteria can't come out of nowhere -_-

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    Theory: Bacteria were brought to Earth by comets from other planets. Bacteria was brought to those other planets by other comets from other planets. Where it started? Dunno, human brains are unable to understand the concept of infinity.

    But Rambozin, what do YOU think happened millions or trillions of years ago?

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    I dont know what happened 3 trillion years ago, I answered on the poll "all i know is I'm alive now."

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