Who would pay for ScarScape?

[TViYH]

SS isn't detectable.

[noidea]

I would do the same as Baked. I wouldn't use it, so I could make myself a better scripter.

[Baked0420]

yea exactly, and SS isn't detectable? ok well I still wouldn't use SS I'd rather learn how to script better, obviously if your scripting for SS you have free time, why not just take a little time out of scripting and learn how to do whatever you need SS for in a normal client? that's my point, and I'd rather be able to use any client anyway then be dependent on SS, so no I'd never pay for SS.



[offtopic] Was SS ever detectable? because I'm pretty sure I heard a while ago like couple months ago when I used to be active that it was detectable but I don't know, it is possible the source was wrong, or that I never heard this and just thought I did [/offtopic]

[TViYH]

SS was never detectable.

People like to make lame excuses for it being detectable, only because they don't use it themselves.

For scripting purposes, it is win.

[tank phobia]

I have never tried scarscape but Scar with SRL and SMART cover all my needs so I would have to say no.

[NiCbaZ]

SS was never detectable.

People like to make lame excuses for it being detectable, only because they don't use it themselves.

For scripting purposes, it is win.

SS is the creator evan said it was, i moddified the client.

[the flea]

Scar scape is detectable because it modifies the client to sop the colors from changing. This is a bannable offence stated in the rs rules so i wouldnt use it.

[TViYH]

Meh. It's not detectable.

I've used scar on it for like 9 hours straight. It's not detectable.

[NiCbaZ]

Meh. It's not detectable.

I've used scar on it for like 9 hours straight. It's not detectable.

It is detectable , you may not of been banned but it is.

[TViYH]

How is it detectable if no one's ever been banned because of it >.<

[Goobs]

ScarScape is a MMC (Minimal Modification Client), so it's no more detectable than the RuneScape client.

Go ask Sythe himself =O

[n3ss3s]

I find it ignorant to resist advance. When it was decided that SMART, with it's reflection capabilities, will be released to the public, everyone in the topic agreed with that we will fall behind if we will force to stay color only.

A succesful compromise was that SRL will not officially support it, and maintaining it is on the responsibility of it's users.


You people who say that 'Reflection is for dumb people', or anything similar, I respection your opinion, but I have one too - How much difference does it make whether you call RadialWalk() or WalkToTile() ?

Please do not use the complexity of RadialWalk as an argument. You didn't do RadialWalk yourself, it doesn't matter to you how complex it is.

You see, some people find an algorithm interesting, some find studying of the structure of the Runescape client interesting.


Build a reflection walking method, including all the Java all the way from finding the correct field, to hooking it, finding that you have to substract the BaseX and Y from the Position coordinates, and then using magic to get this information from a C++ / Java program to SCAR.


Build a walking method similar to RadialWalk, learn to make such algorithms and to implement SCAR plugins.

In the end, these two are quite equal in my honest opinion.


So, no bitching about reflection being so much easier, unless you have big problems remembering parameters for radialwalk.


With due all respect to Wizzup and other participating to creation of RadialWalk on any stage of it.

[pini3000]

Who needs SS when you've got SMART?

I ditto that. Plus is you computer can run ScarScape, how can it not run SMART??

[Goobs]

I find it ignorant to resist advance. When it was decided that SMART, with it's reflection capabilities, will be released to the public, everyone in the topic agreed with that we will fall behind if we will force to stay color only.

A succesful compromise was that SRL will not officially support it, and maintaining it is on the responsibility of it's users.


You people who say that 'Reflection is for dumb people', or anything similar, I respection your opinion, but I have one too - How much difference does it make whether you call RadialWalk() or WalkToTile() ?

Please do not use the complexity of RadialWalk as an argument. You didn't do RadialWalk yourself, it doesn't matter to you how complex it is.

You see, some people find an algorithm interesting, some find studying of the structure of the Runescape client interesting.


Build a reflection walking method, including all the Java all the way from finding the correct field, to hooking it, finding that you have to substract the BaseX and Y from the Position coordinates, and then using magic to get this information from a C++ / Java program to SCAR.


Build a walking method similar to RadialWalk, learn to make such algorithms and to implement SCAR plugins.

In the end, these two are quite equal in my honest opinion.


So, no bitching about reflection being so much easier, unless you have big problems remembering parameters for radialwalk.


With due all respect to Wizzup and other participating to creation of RadialWalk on any stage of it.

I never argued that SMART was bad or that Reflection was wrong. I quite enjoy the accuracy that both provide. I agree that it is quite ignorant to resist change, especially in a good manner. Nothing works well if it stays the same forever (Look at our current financial situation - Bush).

I ditto that. Plus is you computer can run ScarScape, how can it not run SMART??

I'm not sure. I reformatted yesterday, with Media Center Edition (First time reformatting). So hopefully it will work now. It was probably too laden with stuff, so was lagging SMART down.

I haven't heard one positive thing about SS in this thread yet, except what I've said. Do you guys really dislike it that much? All I've heard is bitching, like how SMART is so much better (which it is, in all honesty), and how SS sucks now (I don't think so..) I haven't heard one:

Well, I don't think we should pay for ScarScape, but I think Sythe did a great job and deserves a pat on the back sometimes.

(Though, that was a crappy example.)

How many of the people here (Especially Members) can honestly say that they never found SS useful when they were scripting?

[n3ss3s]

The post wasn't directed at anybody.

[Markus]

How is it detectable if no one's ever been banned because of it >.<

well, because people have been banned because of it?

[TViYH]

How do you know they were banned by it?

Did JaGex call you up on the phone, and say, "Hey mate, we banned you because you used SS. Tell Sythe to improve."?

[Goobs]

The post wasn't directed at anybody.

Alrighty =D

I have no problem with you, n3ss3s. You're a good guy ^.^

well, because people have been banned because of it?

It's people not clearing their cache's and autoing incorrectly that gets them banned, not SS.

I also respect you, Markus, so please don't get mad at meh.

[MylesMadness]

Alrighty =D

I have no problem with you, n3ss3s. You're a good guy ^.^



It's people not clearing their cache's and autoing incorrectly that gets them banned, not SS.

I also respect you, Markus, so please don't get mad at meh.

Just thought you might want to know this. Don't delete the cache often becuase a normal player would never touch that so if they see it was removed they will think your an autoer.

SS is detectable. KThxBai.

[TViYH]

Prove to me SS is detectable, by speech or text of a JaGex moderator or administrator who said that they themselves detected it's presence or ability to run and/or modify RuneScape's java.

[MylesMadness]

yeah, because jagex would totally say "All you people using scar scape better look out before we ban you, because we know your using it"...

[TViYH]

Well, if they banned you, and you know it's because of that, then you should have proof.

Am I right, or am I right?

[Mjordan]

Well back in the day SS was THE thing to have. It was sooo much easier then using the regular RS client, but now it's worthless and they should let it go.

[Death12652]

i would not pay for scarscape because for one thing I don't have the spare money I am taking my girlfriend to eagle eye and I have to still pay for homecoming (and I am not that big of a nerd) no offense.

[TViYH]

Eagle Eye? Wtf?