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    I personally like scripting languages. To me they're more challenging(at least in SCARs case since it's more limited tha n delphi. Along with Delphi really sucking. I actually think that C++ is probably one of the only common good languages, except that I would never be able to grlet into c++. I. Voted php assuming that this was just a favorite language type thing, cuZ I really like it's niftocoty, thouh I do agree that some of the built in function syntax Is weird.
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    Add Visual Studio ones plawkz? My favorite is VB 2008.
    I realized I forgot it once I said submit. I cant edit the poll.

    I'm just wondering, but which is the best for a complete beginer?
    I would say Bloodshed's Dev C++! Really easy to setup

    I personally like scripting languages. To me they're more challenging(at least in SCARs case since it's more limited tha n delphi. Along with Delphi really sucking. I actually think that C++ is probably one of the only common good languages, except that I would never be able to grlet into c++. I. Voted php assuming that this was just a favorite language type thing, cuZ I really like it's niftocoty, thouh I do agree that some of the built in function syntax Is weird.
    Delphi doesnt suck... you do! Ha. How do you feel now? Lol

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    The thread isn't about favs its about which is the best, dev-c++ isn't the best for a complete beginner, you don't throw a beginner into C++, VB is the starting language unless your up for a huge challenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seroko View Post
    The thread isn't about favs its about which is the best, dev-c++ isn't the best for a complete beginner, you don't throw a beginner into C++, VB is the starting language unless your up for a huge challenge.
    No way. VB is for newbs homie.

    Basic is for beginners. Actually, I recommend HTML. It is like step 1 in programming because it shows you how to use commands. Then you work your way to PHP or Scar. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND learning scar!!! Even if you don't play rs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by born2code View Post
    No way. VB is for newbs homie.

    Basic is for beginners. Actually, I recommend HTML. It is like step 1 in programming because it shows you how to use commands. Then you work your way to PHP or Scar. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND learning scar!!! Even if you don't play rs.
    I'd not recommend HTML, as it might give the person the wrong idea about programming, and throw them off later.. but that's jut my opinion.

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    Well, I'm a newb at programming so I need a newb programming lang. I know SCAR, but I want to go further
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    I'd go like this: HTML -> SCAR -> VB -> Java -> C#

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    Since you mostly know SCAR, I'd recommend Delphi (Delphi 7 ).

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    But that isn't free correct?
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    HTML > Javascript/PHP (this is actually advanced scripting) > SCAR (not pascal alone. its kinda pointless) > Delphi > C++/Java (I prefer c++)

    Delphi 7 FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVoiceInYourHead View Post
    I'd go like this: HTML -> SCAR -> VB -> Java -> C#

    He.

    Is.

    Talking.

    About.

    Programming.

    HTML / php / perl / ruby / python / scar is ~NOT~ programming languages, they are SCRIPTING languages, like lua, If you want a well rounded background in programming a recommend learning some basic scripting languages such as lua/scar then learning VB -> Java -> C based language (Excluding C# cause it failz ). If you know how to script, use vb, java, c, you are pretty set as a programmer, you might want to read on assembly just for random knowledge but meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seroko View Post
    He.

    Is.

    Talking.

    About.

    Programming.

    HTML / php / perl / ruby / python / scar is ~NOT~ programming languages, they are SCRIPTING languages, like lua, If you want a well rounded background in programming a recommend learning some basic scripting languages such as lua/scar then learning VB -> Java -> C based language (Excluding C# cause it failz ). If you know how to script, use vb, java, c, you are pretty set as a programmer, you might want to read on assembly just for random knowledge but meh.

    He.

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    Scripting procedures. lol

    It is the order you should go in to get the best out of it. And make learning easier
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    Quote Originally Posted by born2code View Post
    @Wizzup- Dude, I downloaded FPC and it SUCKS! The GUI is the worst I have ever seen! I only like pascal because of how orderly it is and free pascal was just disappointing. xD
    Then you should just code Java in some neat GUI. Most of the C/C++ coders still code in eMacs or vim. Which means they code IN the terminal. No GUI whatsoever. FPC is pretty good...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seroko View Post
    HTML / php / perl / ruby / python / scar is ~NOT~ programming languages, they are SCRIPTING languages, like lua,
    Python is becoming more and more of a real programming language.



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    I would go with Java. Unlike C++ you don't have to use the win32 to create GUIs. I found GUIs prettty easy in Java. Also, Java works on tons of platforms!

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    DHTML, may come handy IMO irl(if you're looking for work etc), also you get quite good start at C-series when you go with php. The only trouble and little refreshment is client side browser behaviors, can cause huge headaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Negaal View Post
    DHTML, may come handy IMO irl(if you're looking for work etc), also you get quite good start at C-series when you go with php. The only trouble and little refreshment is client side browser behaviors, can cause huge headaches.
    Ick. Javascript being compatible with everything is tuff!
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    I would have to say psuedocode lol! It's generic enough to run anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moloch View Post
    I would have to say psuedocode lol! It's generic enough to run anywhere.
    More accurately, it's vague enough that it runs nowhere.

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    FORTRAN has very awesome arrays. Python is actually a real language, as you can compile it into "bytecode" for the python interpreter so it is like Java. I'm actually trying to learn Lisp right now... If I would stop procrastinating...

    But overall? Well, you can ultimately do anything in assembly given you have the time, so a step up from that I guess would be C. (It is relative, though... If you have a system built up, try Java, although you can't do certain things in it)

    EDIT: Pascal is not old fashioned. The FreePascal compiler continues to make improvements
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    Python.
    Why?
    Its easy to read, even for new scripters and advanced ones.
    Its open source, which is cool.
    You can write massively functional scripts in a small number of lines, by making use of the hundreds of pre-built libraries like urllib or xmlib.
    You can download up to 5100 new libraries from http://pypi.python.org/pypi
    A simple google search can and will answer most questions you have - eg "How can I use python to read a RSS feed"
    You can install new libraries from the command line - by using easy_install. eg: easy_install wxwidgets
    You don't need to recompile
    Can be used to make applications with a GUI


    Youtube uses it. Nasa uses it. Google uses it. Facebook uses it. EVE online uses it. All the Civilisation games use it. All the battlefield games use it.

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    Well, more exactly, they use it as a scripting plug-in for their games, or something to that effect. They'd still build the main part in a compiled language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0b0t1 View Post
    Well, more exactly, they use it as a scripting plug-in for their games, or something to that effect. They'd still build the main part in a compiled language.
    Only the renderer and the client. The main part of the game (All of the game based functions, marketplace, chat etc) runs in somthing called stackless python:
    http://www.eve-online.com/pressrelea...ssReleaseID=36

    http://www.python.org/about/quotes/


    Also, python can be compiled to an .exe. So why use C++?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A G E N T View Post
    More accurately, it's vague enough that it runs nowhere.
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    These languages shouldn't be compared because they all were made for different things and it depends on what your doing that makes a language most suitable for the task... if you wanted to create a crazy ass forum system you couldn't do any of that using delphi or c++ or whatevr... PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS is the only way to go. If you want to make a game, well it depends on the type of game.. most online games are made in java. Because java adapts well with the internet since its an internet based language. c++ is alot of fun you can make some pretty sweet virus's :P not real ones mind you.. the point is that they shouldn't be compared as they have their different uses.

    and dont go flaming me saying its all about opinion because this is my opinion.. and the opinion of many great coders i work with.

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    You know what. Just make a sweet program in any of those languages and compile to a .exe file. If it's an awesome program, people will praise and respect you because you made their lives easier. Just concentrate on that and worry about porting it later.

    Find a language you're comfortable with and your program will be even better.
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