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    Any idea or trait that you have is somehow onset to you by society. This is kind of obvious, as we don't come out of the womb already speaking a language or even knowing how our body functions.

    I bet that in your younger years (which you do/don't remember) you most likely witnessed an event that involved something with your father and mother or another couple or whatever that somehow made you switch your ideas. Maybe it was your mom harassing your dad, or the other way around. Either way you subconsciously realized - "Oh this is not right."

    From there, your brain has based its thoughts on relationships the same way, but now you think you can't change them.

    So therefore, are you born like that? NO. But do you choose to be like that? Not necessarily.

    IMHO, such relationships are wrong. There is absolutely no way a person can do to the same sex as them the same thing heterosexuals do. One of the people pretends to be the male counterpart, the other the female. It's unethical, and humans were not created that way.

    It's simple to change, you just have to stray away from society for a while, change your ways and come back to realize how you should really interact with others. With enough willpower anything can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mepure155 View Post
    You do choose to be homosexual or straight there is a guy that was a homosexual then he turned straight he thought at first that he was born gay but he realized that you do have a choice and i think its not right for gay's to be married because Marriage is for MAN and a WOMAN thats how God made it.... I dont care if you have a partner or anything but i believe its not right to let gay's get married and most people dont since only two states allow it
    Wow, it's sad to see how people are so brainwashed.
    It has been proven many times and there is many evidence supporting the fact that people are born gay or straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grief Seeds View Post
    Wow, it's sad to see how people are so brainwashed.
    It has been proven many times and there is many evidence supporting the fact that people are born gay or straight.

    Guess ur pretty damn brainwashed urself.. Don't listen to the media.. stop watching tv. Can you tell me the difference between a gay baby and a straight baby?

    As far as I know, children don't know they're gay.. they decide when they hit puberty.. so I suggest u stop bashing his opinion cuz that was a dumb statement as well. Shit all is proven.. Science can't even understand the quantum entanglement theory fully and yet ur trying to figure out gay vs straight BABIES?! Ppl keep pushing this gay agenda and idea that everyone must be gay.. You don't see us straight ppl saying anything bout turning them straight.. they want everyone to be gay.. gayness is a damn fashion statement in hollywood now. its a trend. If they so gay, why does one gay person in their gay relationship act like a female.. and the other try to be a man? They clearly decide between themselves who take it in the ass and who doesn't.. Why do they even bother talking in that stupid lisp girl voice..

    Riddle me this.. when a gay dude is undercover, he talks manly n shit.. all of a sudden he comes out in the open and u hear the voice of a pussy.. why? What was wrong with his voice before huh?

    People do CHOOSE to be gay. I just don't see how u can look at another burly ass dude and say u want him. wtf? I mean come on!! Women look so damn good and appealing.. The vagina was specifically made for the male counterpart.. we have sticks, they have holes.. U ejaculate from ur stick, they from their hole.. NOT THEIR ASSHOLE wtf kinda shit is that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mepure155 View Post
    So Yakman Im guessing you never read the Bible because i believe it does not say anything about Jesus Stoning people.... Im a Christian i dont like to call it my religion i just believe that Jesus Christ died for all my sins on the cross......
    And it is not sexist actually read it and you'll find out and i know it does not say anything about stoneing people if they are gay so get your facts straight
    Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

    The bible does not discriminate on this dudes. Jesus isn't the one doing the stoning though you are right with that.

    I don't care what your personal beliefs are whether religious or otherwise that gives you NO RIGHT to keep other people form pursuing things like gay marriage or being homosexual. You can believe what you want but as soon as it infringes on peoples rights you keep it only as a personal belief.

    Also ggzz.. Just stop dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosbag View Post
    Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
    Things were different in the Old Testament before JC came around. I feel that even though Christians believe that homosexuality is a sin that they should accept homosexuals for who they are, just another human being. Everyone sins according to Christians right? From stealing something trivial or thinking about another woman when you are married to murder. I'm not a christian per say but I feel that if Christians claim that no one is perfect and everyone sins, then why not accept everyone for who they are; Sinners. No sin makes one worse than another according to them right? The only thing wrong with that imo is in that case, homosexuals would have to admit that what they are doing is a sin, which if I was homosexual I wouldn't want to repent every day that I am a homosexual if it's just how I am, kinda like admitting that breathing is a sin or something. I don't appreciate the hatred the church brings upon homosexuality nor do I understand it if Christians are supposed to treat everyone like Jesus would.

    tl;dr Christians should accept gays for who they are and quit being dicks to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublex8 View Post
    Things were different in the Old Testament before JC came around.
    From what ive seen thats from the "new international version"

    And according to NiCbaZ
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    In the New Testament the church was run by curupt people.
    Guess there is no winning.

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    You do not understand the Book, why cannot you look after the old testermant, too the new one, when Jesus came and the old laws got scrapped and all he wants if you to except jesus and live a decent life.
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    Even in the new testament women are to keep their heads covered and are not allowed to speak in church though, you still ignore these things.
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    In the New Testament the church was run by curupt people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosbag View Post
    From what ive seen thats from the "new international version"
    That doesn't change the fact that it was written thousands of years before Jesus Christ was born.

    Quote Originally Posted by NiCbaZ View Post
    In the New Testament the church was run by curupt people.
    Certain church's were. This also depends if you are Catholic or Protestant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublex8 View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that it was written thousands of years before Jesus Christ was born.
    The new testament still has its questionable passages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    If they so gay, why does one gay person in their gay relationship act like a female.. and the other try to be a man? They clearly decide between themselves who take it in the ass and who doesn't.. Why do they even bother talking in that stupid lisp girl voice..

    Riddle me this.. when a gay dude is undercover, he talks manly n shit.. all of a sudden he comes out in the open and u hear the voice of a pussy.. why? What was wrong with his voice before huh?
    A large group of homosexuals prefer frotting and/or oral sex over anal sex. And a lot don't talk with a lisp except for the flamboyant ones. You're being quite the hypocrite saying that OTHER people watch media too much?

    Quote Originally Posted by ggzz View Post
    I just don't see how u can look at another burly ass dude and say u want him. wtf? I mean come on!! Women look so damn good and appealing..
    Your opinions are very nice, however I fail to see why you would think that everyone has (or should have) the same opinion as you? I'm not even gay and I find vaginas disgusting looking.


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    As an addon to my earlier post.All from the new testament. Sorry for the text wall.

    Quote Originally Posted by New Testament
    # Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12

    # Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

    # Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

    # Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

    # Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15

    # Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

    # Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28

    # "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34

    # God is like a rich man who owns a vineyard and rents it to poor farmers. When he sends servants to collect the rent, the tenants beat or kill them. So he sent his son to collect the rent, and they kill him too. Then the owner comes and kills the farmers and rents the vineyard to others. 21:33-41

    # "Whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder." Whoever falls on "this stone" (Jesus) will be broken, and whomever the stone falls on will be ground into powder. 21:44

    # In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13

    # God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51

    # The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30

    # Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41

    # Jesus says the damned will be tormented forever. 25:46

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    # Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

    # Jesus sends devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. When the people hear about it, they beg Jesus to leave. 5:12-13

    # Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

    # Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    I find vaginas disgusting looking.
    I can agree that not every vagina is pretty but being gay is wrong.

    At the least if your gay please keep it to yourself i don't need to know what your sexual life is like. Do anything you want as long as you don't hurt others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mika View Post
    I can agree that not every vagina is pretty but being gay is wrong.

    At the least if your gay please keep it to yourself i don't need to know what your sexual life is like. Do anything you want as long as you don't hurt others.
    Just as being an alcoholic is wrong, but it's ok as long as it doesn't hurt others? Only difference one is an addiction and the other is pure love.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mika View Post
    I can agree that not every vagina is pretty but being gay is wrong.

    At the least if your gay please keep it to yourself i don't need to know what your sexual life is like. Do anything you want as long as you don't hurt others.
    Wait wut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosbag View Post
    The new testament still has its questionable passages.
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    As an addon to my earlier post.All from the new testament. Sorry for the text wall.
    All I see is a lot of parables taken out of context and put into your own words. Besides I was under the impression that most people were aware that the Bible teaches if you don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God you go to hell. Why are all the passages you quoted questionable? They make perfect sense to me. What I am saying is it isn't impossible for a homosexual to not believe in Jesus and God, just extremely difficult to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosbag View Post
    As an addon to my earlier post.All from the new testament. Sorry for the text wall.
    Nothing you said relates to the OP at all...

    I've read the bible front to back at least 20+ times. No i'm most definitely not a christian.
    but for everyone's bickering... The New Testament Versus the Old Testament...

    if you read it, the change in the covenant alters punishments, not whats right/wrong.

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    I think gay marriage should be legalized. It doesn't affect you in any way, let them be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by footballjds View Post
    Nothing you said relates to the OP at all...

    I've read the bible front to back at least 20+ times. No i'm most definitely not a christian.
    but for everyone's bickering... The New Testament Versus the Old Testament...

    if you read it, the change in the covenant alters punishments, not whats right/wrong.
    You must be dense then because I wasnt replying to OP.

    Read through the other posts please. This was a reply to all the people saying the old testament was then and the new testament is Jesus wanting you to be happy and X.

    Religion has been the motivator for some people in this thread so my post actually does relate to the OP.
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    well at least they go to church (the lesbians)

    off topic, wouldn't it be great to bang a lesbian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mika View Post
    wouldn't it be great to bang a lesbian?
    Now that's a challenge. It's like getting a vegetarian to eat meat.
    So do you not feel lesbianism is wrong, because you find it sexually appealing?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    So do you not feel lesbianism is wrong, because you find it sexually appealing?

    More gay guys: More girls for me.

    More Lesbians: Less girls for me.

    But girl on girl is something.
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    Marriage is a covenant with God between man and woman. That is the whole idea of marriage, that is where marriage came from. So I really don't understand why an atheist homosexual is complaining about not being able to get married.

    I'd also like to say that picking and choosing Bible verses to put a hole in someones faith is fairly easy. As a matter of fact, it was done in the Bible. The most notable time was Satan tempting Jesus Christ.

    As for the head covering, this was Jewish custom. If you want to argue Bible, study it, know what you're talking about. Reading random books is not studying.

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    Oh man, could I put up a fight right now...

    I have to go to bed, but I'll be back on Sunday.

    There's several ignorant fools that have posted on this thread, it blows my mind.

    Just to let you guys know where I stand, I am a Christian. I'm NOT against homosexuality. Homosexuality does not send you to hell, disbelief sends you to hell.


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    As for the head covering, this was Jewish custom. If you want to argue Bible, study it, know what you're talking about. Reading random books is not studying.
    THIS. Stop reading out of context! Don't read a verse, and try to understand it. Read the entire chapter or book, then think about it. This way you'll get the full context and understand it a whole lot more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nxpert View Post
    Marriage is a covenant with God between man and woman. That is the whole idea of marriage, that is where marriage came from. So I really don't understand why an atheist homosexual is complaining about not being able to get married.

    I'd also like to say that picking and choosing Bible verses to put a hole in someones faith is fairly easy. As a matter of fact, it was done in the Bible. The most notable time was Satan tempting Jesus Christ.

    As for the head covering, this was Jewish custom. If you want to argue Bible, study it, know what you're talking about. Reading random books is not studying.
    You seem to have forgotten that anything can be made a God. Also, in the Bible, God created Adam and Eve right? Well, I don't remember reading anywhere that he married them. So basically, they had children out of wedlock, isn't that big no-no?

    You're point of the idea of marriage coming from God is invalid, unless you can give me proof otherwise. Which also makes your "So I really don't understand why an atheist homosexual is complaining about not being able to get married." statement mean nothing and just stupid.

    I'm tired of these people saying that homosexuality is a sin, and you'll go to hell, and that they chose to be that way. Answer me this: Why would anyone CHOOSE to be hated on, persecuted, out casted, on the other side of extreme bullying, etc? If they had a choice, I'm positive none of them would choose to go through that. The ones that would choose that, are 100x better than I could ever be.

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