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    Never done me anyharm or anyone I know, but I do know people in bad ways because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnievinboy View Post
    Never done me anyharm or anyone I know, but I do know people in bad ways because of it.
    What I really don't like is (now I'm not saying you're one of them vinnie) but it's people who look down on people because they've smoked pot a couple of times.

    Wouldn't you agree? I mean it's not as bad as alcohol, but simple one or rare time users are labeled "pot-heads" and are discriminated against for a drug that isn't nearly as bad as cigarettes or alcohol, or any other drug for that matter.

    Now don't take that the wrong way as a lot of you have in this thread and say weed is completely harmless, because that too is ignorance.

    The discrimination is wrong though, anyone else think so?

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    Weed kills brain cells
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    Quote Originally Posted by cycrosism View Post
    Weed kills brain cells
    If you wern't from Aus I'd call you a troll, but those aussies are crazy about drugs so I'll just tell you that your wrong.

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    1+ to icefire

    i compleatly agree, thats like calling someone whos had a beer an alchohalic. imo anyone who drinks or smokes has no right to look down on someone who blazes. what makes it ok to go out and have a few drinks with the boys on the weakend, but not to have a joint once in a while?
    and whoever that was that said that your a danger to others while high is retarded (no offence) DRUNKS get angry/violent/stuipd and cause harm. blazers sit there talking about past times they got high.

    and to those people who say you are a danger to other people while high.. you oviously dont know what pot does to you.
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    'There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.'

    -Harry Anslinger, testifying to Congress, 1937

    Oh lawrds, is dat sum racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruroken View Post
    'there are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the us, and most are negroes, hispanics, filipinos and entertainers. Their satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with negroes, entertainers and any others.'

    -harry anslinger, testifying to congress, 1937

    oh lawrds, is dat sum racism?
    1937

    And yes, it is.

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    Let me tell you about four cousins of mine. They had all been adopted as young children.

    The oldest two had been into drugs and in and out of jail many times. The oldest has been a druggie for a long time, and is totally worthless as a human being. The next oldest was shot and killed by police during a routine traffic stop about 3 years ago, because his girlfriend in the car had a drug related warrant out for her arrest and he pulled a gun on the cops. Stupid.

    The 3rd and 4th were girls. They both lived pretty clean lives. They got married, had kids, went to church regularly.

    Apparently sometime about 2 years ago the youngest girl had begun experimenting with marijuana and liked it. Her oldest druggie brother quickly educated her about drugs, and within a short period of time she was trying heroin and became an addict. She totally self-destructed. She was robbing her parents' house bare to pay for her drug habit. Her husband divorced her and got a restraining order against her to keep her from being a bad influence on her child. She was finally arrested and spent time in jail, just like her older brothers.

    I saw her 3 months ago at my fathers' funeral, and she was totally despondent. I didn't talk to her, but my brother said she felt too guilty to live with herself. As she explained it, she had "everything" and ruined it all for drugs. I got a call last week, because her parents found her dead in their home from a heroin overdose. The funeral was on Friday. All started with curiosity about Marijuana.

    Is it worth it?


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    dude weak minds fall for curiosity. if they cant handle weed they have a lot of maturing to do. i occasionally smoke weed, but my conscious tells me that's as low as ill go.

    my guidelines to not falling for MORE are...
    -never buying weed

    mooch and youll enjoy it alot more. whod waste their money on drugs anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Let me tell you about four cousins of mine. They had all been adopted as young children.

    The oldest two had been into drugs and in and out of jail many times. The oldest has been a druggie for a long time, and is totally worthless as a human being. The next oldest was shot and killed by police during a routine traffic stop about 3 years ago, because his girlfriend in the car had a drug related warrant out for her arrest and he pulled a gun on the cops. Stupid.

    The 3rd and 4th were girls. They both lived pretty clean lives. They got married, had kids, went to church regularly.

    Apparently sometime about 2 years ago the youngest girl had begun experimenting with marijuana and liked it. Her oldest druggie brother quickly educated her about drugs, and within a short period of time she was trying heroin and became an addict. She totally self-destructed. She was robbing her parents' house bare to pay for her drug habit. Her husband divorced her and got a restraining order against her to keep her from being a bad influence on her child. She was finally arrested and spent time in jail, just like her older brothers.

    I saw her 3 months ago at my fathers' funeral, and she was totally despondent. I didn't talk to her, but my brother said she felt too guilty to live with herself. As she explained it, she had "everything" and ruined it all for drugs. I got a call last week, because her parents found her dead in their home from a heroin overdose. The funeral was on Friday. All started with curiosity about Marijuana.

    Is it worth it?
    Congratulations, you just proved that the oldest brother (who may have already been addicted to opiates) got the youngest girl who had a harmless curiosity to marijuana get caught up in addiction because her brother gave her biased facts.

    It only made it worse that he was her brother, its hard to not trust a family member especially when it is on who is as close as a sibling.

    Dwas-woot: You sound like a great friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capricorn View Post
    Dwas-woot: You sound like a great friend.
    you sound like a douche.

    edit: instead of starting shit, what i shouldve said was...if you dont want to get too caught up in it, dont buy it. is weed harmful or not? i dont know, but from what i've seen/read it isnt. but then again "experts" say its the gateway drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Let me tell you about four cousins of mine. They had all been adopted as young children.

    The oldest two had been into drugs and in and out of jail many times. The oldest has been a druggie for a long time, and is totally worthless as a human being. The next oldest was shot and killed by police during a routine traffic stop about 3 years ago, because his girlfriend in the car had a drug related warrant out for her arrest and he pulled a gun on the cops. Stupid.

    The 3rd and 4th were girls. They both lived pretty clean lives. They got married, had kids, went to church regularly.

    Apparently sometime about 2 years ago the youngest girl had begun experimenting with marijuana and liked it. Her oldest druggie brother quickly educated her about drugs, and within a short period of time she was trying heroin and became an addict. She totally self-destructed. She was robbing her parents' house bare to pay for her drug habit. Her husband divorced her and got a restraining order against her to keep her from being a bad influence on her child. She was finally arrested and spent time in jail, just like her older brothers.

    I saw her 3 months ago at my fathers' funeral, and she was totally despondent. I didn't talk to her, but my brother said she felt too guilty to live with herself. As she explained it, she had "everything" and ruined it all for drugs. I got a call last week, because her parents found her dead in their home from a heroin overdose. The funeral was on Friday. All started with curiosity about Marijuana.

    Is it worth it?
    This is one of the things that legalizing Marijuana hopes to solve though. The idea is that you wouldn't start doing Heroine because you drink alcohol, right? So why would you do it if Marijuana was legal but Heroine still wasn't? Part of the "Gateway Drug" theory revolves around that fact that people think Marijuana is just as harmful as harder drugs. If you clearly separate it from them then less people will want to go farther (of course, if someone's into drugs then they're into drugs). Personally, I think there are other drugs that should be legalized, such as Psilocybin and MDMA (MDMA would significantly benefit from this, since "Ecstacy" almost always has hard drugs with it to try to get people addicted, even though MDMA is almost harmless by itself [only unintended side effect is dehydration]).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    1937

    And yes, it is.
    Heres a study I do not have a cite for, but I will find one if I must.

    The study went something like this: Researchers put a bunch of monkeys into a room. In the middle of the room was a tall pole. On top of the pole was a bunch of bananas. When the monkeys got hungry they began to climb the pole.

    That's when the fire hoses came out.

    Yep, the experimenters would knock the monkeys off the pole with jets of water before they reached the bananas.

    Soon, the monkeys became trained; they learned they could never reach their goal. The bananas were off-limits and the monkeys finally stopped trying to get them. In fact, they began to beat the shit out of him if another monkey decided to have a go at the bananas.

    Now for the really interesting part. Researchers took one trained monkey out of the room and replaced him with a new monkey, one who'd never been hosed off the pole. When the newbie monkey would spot the bananas and start up the pole, the trained monkeys would inevitably yank him down and smack him around a little. Soon, the new monkey would also start pulling his hirsute brethren off the pole.

    One by one, the experimenters would replace a hose-trained monkey with a new one. Finally, the room contained only newbie monkeys -- monkeys who'd never been sprayed with the fire hose, monkeys who didn't even know the hose punishment existed.

    I'll give you one guess what they did.

    You're right. These monkey-trained monkeys would keep pulling each other off the pole. They didn't know why they did it, they just did it. Every one of them wanted those bananas, but the hungry monkeys wouldn't allow each other to reach them.

    So yes, 1937

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Let me tell you about four cousins of mine. They had all been adopted as young children.

    The oldest two had been into drugs and in and out of jail many times. The oldest has been a druggie for a long time, and is totally worthless as a human being. The next oldest was shot and killed by police during a routine traffic stop about 3 years ago, because his girlfriend in the car had a drug related warrant out for her arrest and he pulled a gun on the cops. Stupid.

    The 3rd and 4th were girls. They both lived pretty clean lives. They got married, had kids, went to church regularly.

    Apparently sometime about 2 years ago the youngest girl had begun experimenting with marijuana and liked it. Her oldest druggie brother quickly educated her about drugs, and within a short period of time she was trying heroin and became an addict. She totally self-destructed. She was robbing her parents' house bare to pay for her drug habit. Her husband divorced her and got a restraining order against her to keep her from being a bad influence on her child. She was finally arrested and spent time in jail, just like her older brothers.

    I saw her 3 months ago at my fathers' funeral, and she was totally despondent. I didn't talk to her, but my brother said she felt too guilty to live with herself. As she explained it, she had "everything" and ruined it all for drugs. I got a call last week, because her parents found her dead in their home from a heroin overdose. The funeral was on Friday. All started with curiosity about Marijuana.

    Is it worth it?
    Let me tell you a story about millions of responsible adults all over the world, they all take many different types of recreational drugs, both legal and illegal (mainly illegal), responsibly and have a great time and live a better, happier, more peaceful life because of it (especially with psychadelics), and no one gets hurt or dies or gets aids or anything. Is it worth it? Yeah it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Widget View Post
    Eh? If you make it legal than pharmacies would sell it, and they'd only sell quality weed under penalty of law
    Lol, almost 100% of the current drug growing is done by mafias and alike organisations. USA could not compete the prices. Apothecary prices would propably be atleast twice the streetprice, because the "legal weed" would be grown under controlled circumstances, which requires money. The weed that is selled in the streets is grown by some random poor jamaicans, and the quality is not even close to what is required to call it "safe".

    Quote Originally Posted by Capricorn View Post
    Im sure you've experience this aswell.


    Mafia? THE MAFIA? They [people who produce drugs] can't compete with big companies producing chemicals or marijuana.
    a) Cannabis has been proven to cause panic attacks (whats the word -.-)
    b) companies producing chemicals or marijuana can never compete with mafias, because illegal = cheap. legal = safe = expensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capricorn View Post
    I think you should stop grasping at that substances are detrimental to health and instead grasp at the freedom part. Tylenol is notoriously toxic to the liver but its still being sold in every drug mart.
    Then tylenol should also be banned. What is freedom anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by backfire420 View Post
    Well if you believe that when you buy pot your helping the mafia (like stated above) then your head is filled with nothing but propaganda, sorry.
    Well, who do you think weed comes from?

    Quote Originally Posted by backfire420 View Post
    Btw: The government are the ones who made such popular drugs like ecstasy and lsd
    Source?

    Quote Originally Posted by backfire420 View Post
    EDIT: (To 1 of the posters above) Don't you think people have thought about legalization leading to more uses?? Well there has been studies on that very subject and all say that it wouldn't have any impact on the increase of tokers.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpis View Post
    Lol, almost 100% of the current drug growing is done by mafias and alike organisations. USA could not compete the prices. Apothecary prices would propably be atleast twice the streetprice, because the "legal weed" would be grown under controlled circumstances, which requires money. The weed that is selled in the streets is grown by some random poor jamaicans, and the quality is not even close to what is required to call it "safe".
    Grown under controlled circumstances? How does that require money? Ibuprofen is made under controlled circumstances and that only costs 8$ for a bottle of like 72. DXM is made under controlled circumstances and a bottle of Robitussin only costs around 8$. Weed is VERY cheap to grow, the only reason why it is expensive is because its ILLEGAL. If you grew your own you only end up paying dollars for a Oz. And pleeeeeeease, the 'mafia' can't compete with large industrial pharmaceutical companies. You think the gangs produce codeine? Morphine? Xanax? No they don't, because they can't compete with these large FACTORIES. They get prescriptions and sell those. I would like to see you produce a TON of Ibuprofen and be able to PROFIT by selling it for 11 cents a dose.

    a) Cannabis has been proven to cause panic attacks (whats the word -.-)
    b) companies producing chemicals or marijuana can never compete with mafias, because illegal = cheap. legal = safe = expensive.
    See above

    Then tylenol should also be banned. What is freedom anyway...
    Yeah, what is freedom anyways. Thats dumb and worthless, might as well be sheep and do whatever we're told.

    Well, who do you think weed comes from?
    That depends what type you buy and who you buy from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capricorn View Post
    Ibuprofen is made under controlled circumstances and that only costs 8$ for a bottle of like 72.
    Ibuprofen does not require large fields. Its made in factories and its faster to make. It is also made of cheap chemicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpis View Post
    Ibuprofen does not require large fields. Its made in factories and its faster to make. It is also made of cheap chemicals.
    This never stopped corn... and I'm not sure whats cheaper than seeds, certainly not precursors to ibuprofen.

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    I don't know if it's harmful, but I do know there are more constructive ways to spend your time, money, and lung capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marpis View Post
    Ibuprofen does not require large fields. Its made in factories and its faster to make. It is also made of cheap chemicals.
    So you agree big companies are able to produce more chemicals faster and cheaper then illicit organizations? The simple truth is illicit organizations can not create substances as fast and as efficient as big companies and big factories. Either you are talking about marijuana or chemicals like LSD or MDMA, big factories owned by big companies are always going to be able to out produce illicit organizations.

    If some simpleton can yield 12 Oz every 7 weeks and only pay maintenance of about 40$ in a 3 by 3 sq ft area then why can big companies not improve on that?

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    Of course the bigger companies can produce larger amounts of better quality drugs for cheaper. Its common sense, they can afford the big factories and fields and can buy chemicals in bulk which makes it much much cheaper. If drugs were legal, the precursor prices would go down heaps too, which would lead to bigger profits. This means much bigger returns for the company, as they are buying and selling in massive amounts. Economy of scale.

    Theres absolutely no reason why all drugs couldn't be mass produced in the same way as alcohol, tobacco, coffee, aspirin etc. Which would lead to much cheaper prices for the consumer as theres so much of it around easily available, the rival companies would be constantly undercutting each other. This would pretty much wipe out the people making drugs atm (unless its the government hurrrrr), as they wouldnt be able to compete with the prices - and who would want to set up a meeting with a shady dealer for some overpriced, probably impure/low quality drugs when they could just go down to the milk bar and buy them instead

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    lol weeds illigel for many reasons.

    1) tobacco company, and another company were scared that weed would be bought more then cigarettes and i think its oil...so they ran together and put their money in the governments hands to illegal it,and still pay billions of dollars.
    2) they cant put a pattent on the god given thing because its growing naturally in my basement closets and room. it grows wild..no pattent not man made..
    3) they already gave it a bad name...they would like look afool(in their eyes, theyd be my hero if they legalized it) if they legalized it...

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    I smoke & drive all the time.. Doesn't really affect my driving. Especially after 5+ blunts. Now if I drank 10+ shots of liquor, I can assure you my driving would be pretty erratic, not to mention dangerous not only to myself. But other driver's on the road.

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    Waiting for my guy to come round and i happened to see this thread haha :P

    Smoked pot for around 1 year now, hasn't had any obvious side effects. Driving while stoned doesn't really change much for me, still drive the same.

    As for whether or not it should be illegal or not, my only argument is, which kills more people per year? Marijuana or alcohol? Case closed.

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    It does harm you in the long run and if you smoke it a lot.
    If you limit the use I guess it's oke.

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