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    I'm sure everyone's been hearing the same stuff I have, "turn out the lights", "take shorter showers", "use the car less", etc, etc. How do you feel about it? Personally, I don't mind that they are trying to get people to help the environment, but I hate the way they are marketing it.

    First, the slogan "Go Green" is something I've come to loathe. Maybe it was catchy at first but I believe it is extremely overused. Everything these days is "green". There are "green" water bottles, "green" cars, and maybe even "green" toilets for all I know. Some things are said to be "green" just for publicity. There was a green "park", and the only thing different about it was no dogs were allowed. But they still concluded that if they added "green" to it, people would flock to it.

    The other thing that annoys me is when they say "every little bit counts". I know in the end "every little bit" probably does count, and will count in our rapidly changing environment, but I think it makes someone look like an idiot if they start bragging about how "Oh, I turned off the light in your room so we can save energy". Good for whoever did that, but does everyone else really need to know? I think it's more important to focus on how we can create more of this energy and try to create that. In the end, I think it would help us last longer. Anyways, just wanna see what you think about the "environmental crisis" and the whatnot

    Btw, there's no such thing as global warming, just got cold and turned up the Earth's thermostat.

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    Unfortunately, I believe that most "green" living ends up being more harmful than good.

    For example, all of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs that are the big fad now contain mercury. They save some electricity, but will eventually end up in landfills and leech into the groundwater. Meanwhile, LED lightbulbs are just a couple of years away from being widely used, and will save even more energy with less toxic components.

    The same thing happened with MTBE in California. Back in the 80's the greenies were very concerned that gasoline wasn't being fully combusted in cars, which caused smog. So, they mandated that MTBE be added to all gasoline in California, to help fully combust the gasoline. That worked fine, but MTBE is also very water soluble and very stable, and not very healthy. It started leaking out of gas storage tanks into the groundwater, and is now contaminating groundwaters all across the state. Now instead of blaming themselves for mandating MTBE, they're blaming the gas stations that leaked it.

    Sure, the gas stations are partly responsible, but leaks happen. They should have predicted that leaks would contaminate the ground water, and realize that mandating MTBE was a bad idea, but they still required it to be added for over 15 years.

    Not only did they harm the environment more than smog ever did, they were so arrogant they refused to admit it was a mistake and overturn it for so long.
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    I definitely agree with this, I think we are trying a little too hard to make these "green" products rather than considering the risks they can actually have on the current generation. Also, I think many things that are popular will eventually need to be made cheaper, which is where the problems will start. Crappy working conditions, crappy machinery, and crappy materials would all result in a harmful and dangerous product. I think we have to think bigger than this, to the real roots of the problem. Not "How can we make products that use less pollutant-filled fuel?", but "How can we create energy in a cleaner way?". And the government is doing that which I am glad to see.

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    The concept of going green is a marketers wet dream. Repackage it, say its green and rake in extra profits for nothing. In the long run the only thing that is going to save us is a change in energy production - IE, large scale wind farms, solar farms, geothermal and using tidal turbines? (don't remember the term for that). And as it stands no one is willing to make the jump away from petroleum products, for good reasons. Because as it stands oil derivatives hold the most energy for what you invest into it. Hopefully that changes.

    Do not get me wrong, I think we all should stop littering our waste around but I also believe a lot of it is not our fault but our governments and corporations. If my local store wanted me to go green and use a reusable bag, why the hell are they charging for it? If the government really wanted to protect our hydrological cycle why the hell are they not getting water treatment plants up? Or cracking down on things that really cause damage, like littering cigarette butts, plastic bags and soda cans?

    Here in Winnipeg our city has some garbage cans setup around the city, but I feel they are far to distance from one another unless you are downtown. If my city felt strongly about keeping my city clean they would obviously setup more garbage cans, despite the initial cost.

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    I feel the same way. All this "green" shit is filling up the stores and meanwhile companies are getting rich. Meanwhile, innocent weak-minded individuals spend more money to try and do whatever they can, but I think if they really wanted to help, they would be out there researching ways to create a cleaner energy. People are doing this, but not nearly as rapidly as manufacturers are making their otherwise functional products "eco-friendly" or "green".

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    Who are we to judge whether or not weed is bad?

    For some people it may be good. and for others bad, it's another great mystery of life and when trying to answer this question I really think to myself is weed bad or good?

    Only God knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceFire908 View Post
    Who are we to judge whether or not weed is bad?

    For some people it may be good. and for others bad, it's another great mystery of life and when trying to answer this question I really think to myself is weed bad or good?

    Only God knows.
    Umm I don't think you got the jist of this thread
    This thread is about the green environment.

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    Retarded sales concept.

    Common sense home concept. Ofc you'd want to turn out lights, take shorter showers, buy more efficient appliances - it all saves money!


    A great idea, but is common sense worth all the hype?
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    How we solve the energy "crisis" is put a ban on how much toxicity a company can pump in to the air us( USA) being a capitalist county and greedy country will switch everything to better less emitting form of energy so that they can make more money

    This is not my idea i got it from a tv show

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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Pizzle View Post
    How we solve the energy "crisis" is put a ban on how much toxicity a company can pump in to the air us( USA) being a capitalist county and greedy country will switch everything to better less emitting form of energy so that they can make more money

    This is not my idea i got it from a tv show
    Lets just stop China's production aswell! Considering when you come to the United States, you aren't covered in smog, but are in China in most places.

    hakuna matata ;)

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    Yeah, most of the atmosphere's problems stem from countries other than the US.

    China, Middle East, Brazil, India.
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    make a world policy weve done it for war lol

    we were tring to mkake war more huimane as if war is humane itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarajunky View Post
    Unfortunately, I believe that most "green" living ends up being more harmful than good.

    For example, all of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs that are the big fad now contain mercury. They save some electricity, but will eventually end up in landfills and leech into the groundwater. Meanwhile, LED lightbulbs are just a couple of years away from being widely used, and will save even more energy with less toxic components.

    The same thing happened with MTBE in California. Back in the 80's the greenies were very concerned that gasoline wasn't being fully combusted in cars, which caused smog. So, they mandated that MTBE be added to all gasoline in California, to help fully combust the gasoline. That worked fine, but MTBE is also very water soluble and very stable, and not very healthy. It started leaking out of gas storage tanks into the groundwater, and is now contaminating groundwaters all across the state. Now instead of blaming themselves for mandating MTBE, they're blaming the gas stations that leaked it.

    Sure, the gas stations are partly responsible, but leaks happen. They should have predicted that leaks would contaminate the ground water, and realize that mandating MTBE was a bad idea, but they still required it to be added for over 15 years.

    Not only did they harm the environment more than smog ever did, they were so arrogant they refused to admit it was a mistake and overturn it for so long.
    I Agree! and Lmao At the advertisement on the top of this thread.
    Edit:They had a Go green add at top.
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