They actually could effectively halter smart for a tiny bit if they use the "go through website" thing, but that would be easy to fix.
They actually could effectively halter smart for a tiny bit if they use the "go through website" thing, but that would be easy to fix.
They actually banned Lucipher, the 3rd best player in RS for macroing today, but after 6 hours, unbanned him. That's sounds like a warning. I'm still botting everyday: 5/7 hours
lol at this thread... told ya typing random shit is dumb... there are too many noobs on rs.
http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?15,16,701,58968373
6-11-09 Rest in peace SRL
Ah, it amuses me how ignorant most players are about bots, especially when information is so easy to find.Originally Posted by Some Idiot on Runescape's forums
Rsbot should be safe to...
Autoing strong atm. Jagex cant and wont stop us, they know the consequences that without botters the economy of runescape would suffer mightly. That "update" was just to scare all new autoers to go back to playing legit.
Faith is an oasis in the heart which will never be reached by the caravan of thinking.
Lets see, at it's most simplistic it would use:
There. At it's most simplistic, it would take 6 lines (not counting the code for actually doing something) to change worlds every 10 minutes.SCAR Code:repeat //line 1
MarkTime(time); //line 2
repeat //line 3
*whatever code you want to do*
until(TimeFromMark(time) > 600000) //line 4
ChangeWorld(RandomWorld(Members, PvP)); //line 5
until(whatever) //line 6
My new scripts I make change worlds every certain number of something (kills, loads, etc.)
It helps stop getting randoms period/that often depending on how long you auto and great for antiban.
A bluff IMO.
I dont see how they can detect SCAR, if you really think of it... There is no way they catch you unless they look at our files and scripts. Then use our scripts and monitor where the script clicks and what it does to ban us..We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.
Or they just see where abouts you click and if you repeatitively click the same area's for a certain amount of time. boom ban hammer. Seems like the only thing that would make sence.
Experiment:
Im going to manually get stuck behind a fence of some sort and click continously for 10 minutes then logout. Just like SCAR would xD.
Code:/* Before anyone says anything, I didn't declare preprocessor directives, namespace std, or variables */ int main() { cout<<"Do you use RSBOT or IBOT/NEXUS"; cin>>a; if (a=="yes") cout<<"you are a moron, your accounts will probably get banned"; if (a=="no") cout<<"your account didn't get banned, congratulations"; }
They probably recorded a bunch of patterns of the most used RSBot scripts and made a comparison check on a offline bot to see if the patterns are similar and within the margin of error. Then they probably did a mass ban on all the accounts that resulted true. A woodcutting script on RSBot has like 600k views so they can effectively ban a lot of macros. Coupled with removing the appeal offense feature, only the legit players are going to take the time to appeal their ban. You can still appeal your ban as there are still ways to contact Jagex, even Jagex confirmed this on the RSOF and out-right said that only legit players will take the time to find out how to appeal.
At least this is my theory. Lucipher6 was unbanned also, so it proves that either their system is not 100% accurate (which we know for sure, it is not) or that Lucipher6 was macroing with a bot and he got lucky (we will never know if he did, or if he used RSBot or SCAR or any other bot).
Edit: So I guess if you get banned on a very good account, you should find out how to contact Jagex. Maybe someone who is bothered enough will figure it out and post.
Some people should take one wise thing, Rsbot does not "suck", scar is not "uber" they are 2 different things, if you can code good, and you use your brains, you can out smart the system, and if someone again says "RSBOT SUCKS!!!!", seriously GTFO you don't know what you are saying, btw I never visited their site or used it, but if you can code well, you can outsmart the system.
~Hermen
I see this as a bluff and technicality.
Of course you can detect ALL of them. There is no single mainstream RS macroing compiler that has had 0 bans because of it. SCAR has had multiple accounts banned, but not because of this new system they have in place.We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.
If they are being serious about being able to detect any available program, then those who want to bot should learn how to program and keep some scripts private. They aren't going to read those. If they do, we can just make hundreds of incoherent scripts[1] and hide the real ones in the mass of them.
The only way Jagex can rid themselves of 100% of bots is if they hire people to stand behind us and watch us play, or kill RuneScape. Neither of which will happen.
I have an account I've played legitimately on 100% of the time since the dawn of his existence. He has over 60M total exp, a 30M+ bank value, and over 2 90+ skills. He has been free from all autoing interactions. If he's banned, IDC. The last time I played RS for more than 20 minutes straight was months ago.
So, it's a trade off. Learn how to code better in this language, and better coding practices overall for free- I don't have to pay for membership- or pay $5/month and let my brain rot clicking random rocks/altars.
I think my choice is clear.
[EDIT]
[1]No chance of compiling, completely incoherent, but a few hundred of them surrounding legitimate programs makes it near impossible for Jagex to find the real one(s), assuming they are sniffing out private programs, which has a next-to-nothing chance of happening anyway. XDSCAR Code:Program Woodcutter;
end;
for Integer in each
var aaaaa;
begin
if(i<=99)do
each(84);
//etc.
Last edited by Macro_FTW; 06-14-2009 at 02:00 AM.
So funny, I was watching a YouTube video, someone made a click-mouse script fletcher.
A comment was :
See it depends how you script and not the bot.thats so detectable...dont use SCAR use rsbot
~Hermen
Who cares? It depends on the script, we're not the RsBot community, are we? Should we care? This update has mainly hit the clients that hack the rs client, their ban system may be a little stronger at detecting srl scripts, but, as a community we should work together and learn to create even more better, un-detectable scripts. SRL isn't going to die from this measly update, they basically want to scare us, and discourage autoers.
SmarterC.
I really hate when Yagex says something than acts otherwise. They said they will ban all players no matter how high their rank is. Take this for instance:
Lucipher6 banned and than unbanned. I don't that is fair. What is the reason for unbanning him:
1. They made a mistake (if they made a mistake doesn't matter because there is no chance for him to appeal and for Yagex to look in the case again)
2. Last chance chance appeal (there is no last chance appeal for ALL player, why should there be one for him)
Some of you might say: he's rank 3, they can't just ban him. Well I say, why not? Let's even give him an award for being the best macro in the world...
I'm not saying we deserve to be banned, I'm just saying that rules should be the same for all of us and that Yagex should keep their own promises.
Last edited by tico2; 06-14-2009 at 05:09 AM.
tico2, there are ways to appeal, Jagex said if any legit player gets banned then the legit person will care enough to contact Jagex another way. Not only that, but Lucipher6 got someone to post on the RSOF ...
Watch out! Next thing you know, Jagex will be tapping our webcams! Oh my God! He's not in front of the computer; INSTA-BAN!
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