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    They actually could effectively halter smart for a tiny bit if they use the "go through website" thing, but that would be easy to fix.

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    They actually banned Lucipher, the 3rd best player in RS for macroing today, but after 6 hours, unbanned him. That's sounds like a warning. I'm still botting everyday: 5/7 hours

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    lol at this thread... told ya typing random shit is dumb... there are too many noobs on rs.
    http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?15,16,701,58968373

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    6-11-09 Rest in peace SRL

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    Quote Originally Posted by naryasha View Post
    6-11-09 Rest in peace SRL
    Um....What? There could no falser statement than that ^^....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Idiot on Runescape's forums
    ok auto responder. next they could be programed to log out after 10 minutes and go to a new world

    jagex mods should be carefull with these bots take them out now not later
    Ah, it amuses me how ignorant most players are about bots, especially when information is so easy to find.

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    Rsbot should be safe to...

    Autoing strong atm. Jagex cant and wont stop us, they know the consequences that without botters the economy of runescape would suffer mightly. That "update" was just to scare all new autoers to go back to playing legit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingarabian View Post
    Rsbot should be safe to...

    Autoing strong atm. Jagex cant and wont stop us, they know the consequences that without botters the economy of runescape would suffer mightly. That "update" was just to scare all new autoers to go back to playing legit.
    Actually, it seems that RSBot was hit pretty hard by this update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senrath View Post
    Ah, it amuses me how ignorant most players are about bots, especially when information is so easy to find.
    seriously..

    hell, we can do that in like what? <10 lines of code?
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    Quote Originally Posted by akwardsaw View Post
    seriously..

    hell, we can do that in like what? <10 lines of code?
    Lets see, at it's most simplistic it would use:
    SCAR Code:
    repeat //line 1
      MarkTime(time); //line 2
      repeat //line 3
      *whatever code you want to do*
      until(TimeFromMark(time) > 600000) //line 4
      ChangeWorld(RandomWorld(Members, PvP)); //line 5
    until(whatever) //line 6
    There. At it's most simplistic, it would take 6 lines (not counting the code for actually doing something) to change worlds every 10 minutes.

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    My new scripts I make change worlds every certain number of something (kills, loads, etc.)
    It helps stop getting randoms period/that often depending on how long you auto and great for antiban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senrath View Post
    Actually, it seems that RSBot was hit pretty hard by this update.
    Not affecting me at all.

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    A bluff IMO.

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    We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.
    I dont see how they can detect SCAR, if you really think of it... There is no way they catch you unless they look at our files and scripts. Then use our scripts and monitor where the script clicks and what it does to ban us..

    Or they just see where abouts you click and if you repeatitively click the same area's for a certain amount of time. boom ban hammer. Seems like the only thing that would make sence.

    Experiment:
    Im going to manually get stuck behind a fence of some sort and click continously for 10 minutes then logout. Just like SCAR would xD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Home View Post
    Ya sure Jakex :P Your anti cheat system:



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    HAHA! I would think that is what they have.

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    Code:
    /*                     Before anyone says anything,
        I didn't declare preprocessor directives, namespace std, or variables
    */
    
    int main()
    {
    cout<<"Do you use RSBOT or IBOT/NEXUS";
    cin>>a;
    
    if (a=="yes")
    cout<<"you are a moron, your accounts will probably get banned";
    
    if (a=="no")
    cout<<"your account didn't get banned, congratulations";
    }

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    They probably recorded a bunch of patterns of the most used RSBot scripts and made a comparison check on a offline bot to see if the patterns are similar and within the margin of error. Then they probably did a mass ban on all the accounts that resulted true. A woodcutting script on RSBot has like 600k views so they can effectively ban a lot of macros. Coupled with removing the appeal offense feature, only the legit players are going to take the time to appeal their ban. You can still appeal your ban as there are still ways to contact Jagex, even Jagex confirmed this on the RSOF and out-right said that only legit players will take the time to find out how to appeal.

    At least this is my theory. Lucipher6 was unbanned also, so it proves that either their system is not 100% accurate (which we know for sure, it is not) or that Lucipher6 was macroing with a bot and he got lucky (we will never know if he did, or if he used RSBot or SCAR or any other bot).

    Edit: So I guess if you get banned on a very good account, you should find out how to contact Jagex. Maybe someone who is bothered enough will figure it out and post.

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    Some people should take one wise thing, Rsbot does not "suck", scar is not "uber" they are 2 different things, if you can code good, and you use your brains, you can out smart the system, and if someone again says "RSBOT SUCKS!!!!", seriously GTFO you don't know what you are saying, btw I never visited their site or used it, but if you can code well, you can outsmart the system.
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    I see this as a bluff and technicality.

    We have reviewed all the macro programs available, and there are none we cannot detect.
    Of course you can detect ALL of them. There is no single mainstream RS macroing compiler that has had 0 bans because of it. SCAR has had multiple accounts banned, but not because of this new system they have in place.

    If they are being serious about being able to detect any available program, then those who want to bot should learn how to program and keep some scripts private. They aren't going to read those. If they do, we can just make hundreds of incoherent scripts[1] and hide the real ones in the mass of them.

    The only way Jagex can rid themselves of 100% of bots is if they hire people to stand behind us and watch us play, or kill RuneScape. Neither of which will happen.

    I have an account I've played legitimately on 100% of the time since the dawn of his existence. He has over 60M total exp, a 30M+ bank value, and over 2 90+ skills. He has been free from all autoing interactions. If he's banned, IDC. The last time I played RS for more than 20 minutes straight was months ago.

    So, it's a trade off. Learn how to code better in this language, and better coding practices overall for free- I don't have to pay for membership- or pay $5/month and let my brain rot clicking random rocks/altars.

    I think my choice is clear.

    [EDIT]
    [1]
    SCAR Code:
    Program Woodcutter;

    end;
    for Integer in each
    var aaaaa;
    begin
    if(i<=99)do
      each(84);
    //etc.
    No chance of compiling, completely incoherent, but a few hundred of them surrounding legitimate programs makes it near impossible for Jagex to find the real one(s), assuming they are sniffing out private programs, which has a next-to-nothing chance of happening anyway. XD
    Last edited by Macro_FTW; 06-14-2009 at 02:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runescapian View Post
    Most likely safe. Most people here probably use SMART, and there have barely been any bans, so...
    that and people dont worry just use bad scripts on bad accounts then fix them and if theyre good enough then use other accs. (always have an army)

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    So funny, I was watching a YouTube video, someone made a click-mouse script fletcher.
    A comment was :
    thats so detectable...dont use SCAR use rsbot
    See it depends how you script and not the bot.
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    Who cares? It depends on the script, we're not the RsBot community, are we? Should we care? This update has mainly hit the clients that hack the rs client, their ban system may be a little stronger at detecting srl scripts, but, as a community we should work together and learn to create even more better, un-detectable scripts. SRL isn't going to die from this measly update, they basically want to scare us, and discourage autoers.

    SmarterC.

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    I really hate when Yagex says something than acts otherwise. They said they will ban all players no matter how high their rank is. Take this for instance:

    Lucipher6 banned and than unbanned. I don't that is fair. What is the reason for unbanning him:

    1. They made a mistake (if they made a mistake doesn't matter because there is no chance for him to appeal and for Yagex to look in the case again)

    2. Last chance chance appeal (there is no last chance appeal for ALL player, why should there be one for him)

    Some of you might say: he's rank 3, they can't just ban him. Well I say, why not? Let's even give him an award for being the best macro in the world...

    I'm not saying we deserve to be banned, I'm just saying that rules should be the same for all of us and that Yagex should keep their own promises.
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    tico2, there are ways to appeal, Jagex said if any legit player gets banned then the legit person will care enough to contact Jagex another way. Not only that, but Lucipher6 got someone to post on the RSOF ...

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    Watch out! Next thing you know, Jagex will be tapping our webcams! Oh my God! He's not in front of the computer; INSTA-BAN!

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