skinning animals alive

[Torrent of Flame]

The factor between the time of the fur ripped off and the cut throat, isn't that big, you might lose 50 animals at max. a day.

When you are making a pittance anyway, 50 animals is a lot of animals.

[ShowerThoughts]

When you are making a pittance anyway, 50 animals is a lot of animals.

I am against killing alive, you might understood me wrong, there shouldn't be any animal killing the world, but yes, the current state of humans do, and need it to have their clothes, people could also just wear non animal-fur clothes, but yeah who is me to say that.

[Torrent of Flame]

I am against killing alive, you might understood me wrong, there shouldn't be any animal killing the world, but yes, the current state of humans do, and need it to have their clothes, people could also just wear non animal-fur clothes, but yeah who is me to say that.

<ToF> You a vegetarian?
<Hermen> No.
<Hermen> I eat flesh.

Well if you don't like killing, why aren't you a vegetarian? and this may be your English, but you have to be alive to be killed, otherwise nothing would die.

[Shuttleu]

Well if you don't like killing, why aren't you a vegetarian? and this may be your English, but you have to be alive to be killed, otherwise nothing would die.

they could die of natural causes... then they wouldnt be killed

~shut

[Torrent of Flame]

they could die of natural causes... then they wouldnt be killed

~shut

There wouldnt be much meat in the world if we ate only things that died of a natural cause.

[ShowerThoughts]

I meant taking the fur off alive.
Why let those animals suffer and then make it worse by doing it alive.

[Shuttleu]

There wouldnt be much meat in the world if we ate only things that died of a natural cause.

you said that if we didnt kill them then nothing would die
i was just saying that you dont have to kill something for it to die

~shut

[Torrent of Flame]

I meant taking the fur off alive.
Why let those animals suffer and then make it worse by doing it alive.

Well you've answered that already. It wastes time if they kill it first.

And Shuttleu, I mis-read , sorry.

[Dervish]

Animals are animals and nothing more. Yes.

[Coh3n]

Animals are animals and nothing more. Yes.

You don't think they have feelings and emotions or feel pain?

[GoF]

I think skinning PETA people alive should be legal.

You don't think they have feelings and emotions or feel pain?

They feel pain in the nature all the time too, and if such a minor tragedy as some fox feeling pain somewhere in chine makes you upset then it's surprising you haven't killed yourself yet looking at the world around you.

[The Little]

Man I feel so sorry for these animals , and as has been said before. Why don't you kill them first .

You don't think they have feelings and emotions or feel pain?

Most species don't, only the more developed. The animals in the vid certainly do experience pain/emotions.

[Dervish]

You don't think they have feelings and emotions or feel pain?

Maybe, who cares ? They're just animals. Animals serve no specific purpose but dieing and giving us food.

[Coh3n]

They feel pain in the nature all the time too, and if such a minor tragedy as some fox feeling pain somewhere in chine makes you upset then it's surprising you haven't killed yourself yet looking at the world around you.

Lol, that's not what I meant. I meant it as in they're still living things like you and me and don't deserve to be tortured.

Maybe, who cares ? They're just animals. Animals serve no specific purpose but dieing and giving us food.

I guess you're entitled to you opinion, who am I to argue.

[legendaryhero90]

the day i can treat an animal like a human or a human like an animal is the day this kind of thing should not be allowed.

[Brain]

animals don't really show us any extra respect, why should we show them any?

lol, that's an interesting argument...
Just kinda playin devil's advocate here

[ian.]

the day i can treat an animal like a human or a human like an animal is the day this kind of thing should not be allowed.

What do you mean? Because I'd say that some of the fancier dogs (like in dog shows) are treated better than a lot of people.

(By the way, legendary, do you remember me? :] Pwnt by Pwnt? )

[bullzeye95]

animals don't really show us any extra respect, why should we show them any?

lol, that's an interesting argument...
Just kinda playin devil's advocate here

Since when does showing something respect mean not ripping the skin off its body while still alive?

EDIT: O I C wut u did thar

[Brain]

I dunno, why not?
People get mauled by animals and left to suffer, animals maul each other all the time.
We're just mauling the skin off of them, and I would guess that the Chinese probably eat the animals, since meat is sorta scarce/expensive there.

[Shuttleu]

they probably spend more time trying to stop it from struggling than they would to kill it with a blow to the head

~shut

[Jason2gs]

Can we get back off topic?

Also, +1 Dervish.

[ian.]

Why get off topic, Jason? >.>

[R0b0t1]

Uhm. Honestly I think it'd be more work to skin the animal alive.

[legendaryhero90]

What do you mean? Because I'd say that some of the fancier dogs (like in dog shows) are treated better than a lot of people.

(By the way, legendary, do you remember me? :] Pwnt by Pwnt? )

i mean i dont see humans and animals as equals yet.

Its not that i think its humane these animals are getting skinned alive but I dont think i can ever treat a human like an animal and vice versa is what im saying.

and yeah i remember you.

How's it been?

[R0b0t1]

I'd say no to the poll, even though I don't really care, those people are free to do whatever they want. If they really want to torture something, though, they might as well do it to a person who deserves it. I'd imagine being skinned alive would be quite painful.

EDIT: Actually now that I've watched the video those animals look semi-dead. Kinda like when you hit a fish on the head with a knife and then skin it. Keeping the animals alive as long as possible allows the product to last longer without risk of going bad. Honestly, that was a hard whack they were given, most of the movement was probably left-over reflex from their broken brain.

Also, did you know PETA is classified as a terrorist organization?